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  • #31
    Originally posted by Khostai View Post
    Yes, I am smart and studieng so I will get a good job after my studie, I listen to my parents, help them whith everything, have respect to elderly peopel, I don't drink or go to late night partys, I am not arrogant, I don't spend money on useless things like expensive clothes or phones,.... I always help people who ask me for help... So according to pashtun standarts I represnt quality. What kind of quality do you have? except of anoying peopel on forums LOL...

    well for a smart guy you like your friend make many very typical logical blunders; not sure if that would denote intellect.

    Ok so you have some qualities which are commendable; but do you have the most important qualities in Pashtun society?
    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Khostai View Post
      No, it is forbiden to expand your life artificialy so if you are a tru muslim you wil nor use that....
      It's not "forbidden" if it was forbidden ll medicine would be harram. since that extends life and there is no definitive knowledge of to what degree it may extend your life. Yet we know medicine is accepted, thus the claim of increasing life indefinitely wouldn't conflict with any religious principles.

      I'm starting to doubt your claim of being smart, I think you just follow a band wagon of what you believe smart people would say, but you yourself do not have much critical thinking power.
      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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      • #33
        ^I know.... I am not that religious, it's my weak point, I don't know why, even when I was a child religion didn't atract me, I always found it not interesting, I have read the Qoran ( the translation) and to be honest I was not really impressed.... But still the most important qulity in pashtun society is to be a good human being...

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        • #34
          Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
          It's not "forbidden" if it was forbidden ll medicine would be harram. since that extends life and there is no definitive knowledge of to what degree it may extend your life. Yet we know medicine is accepted, thus the claim of increasing life indefinitely wouldn't conflict with any religious principles.

          I'm starting to doubt your claim of being smart, I think you just follow a band wagon of what you believe smart people would say, but you yourself do not have much critical thinking power.
          Ofcourse it is forbiden, medicin is difrent you are not gona live forever by using paracetamol?

          It would conflict, otherwise evil bitches can avoid going to hell....
          And are you even a muslim? Do you belive in Allah I really doubt that...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Khostai View Post
            ^I know.... I am not that religious, it's my weak point, I don't know why, even when I was a child religion didn't atract me, I always found it not interesting, I have read the Qoran ( the translation) and to be honest I was not really impressed.... But still the most important qulity in pashtun society is to be a good human being...
            In Pashtun society being a "good human" being means to do badal when someone kills your relatives, kill your daughter if she has a yaar. Ghairat aw Namus, and while these are not necessarily religious concepts it is something reinforced by religion, even if it is not always consistent with religion.
            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Khostai View Post
              Ofcourse it is forbiden, medicin is difrent you are not gona live forever by using paracetamol?

              It would conflict, otherwise evil bitches can avoid going to hell....
              And are you even a muslim? Do you belive in Allah I really doubt that...


              What do you think medicine is but an attempt to extend life? You really don't know what you're saying.

              Also some Ulama will just say "People were once living for 1000 years so it is halal". You should really think out your answers
              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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              • #37
                I am not that of religious person but I know one thing our life on earth is temporary and it is made like a test for us, so living forever on in this world would go against Islam and its teachings...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                  What do you think medicine is but an attempt to extend life? You really don't know what you're saying.

                  Also some Ulama will just say "People were once living for 1000 years so it is halal". You should really think out your answers
                  1000 years is not forever my friend...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                    In Pashtun society being a "good human" being means to do badal when someone kills your relatives, kill your daughter if she has a yaar. Ghairat aw Namus, and while these are not necessarily religious concepts it is something reinforced by religion, even if it is not always consistent with religion.
                    So you value your culture more than Islam?

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                    • #40
                      And by the way medicine is to cure an ilness not just to extend life, some peopel can live on medicine longer but choose dead, becuase the live whith the medicine would be hard and painfull. The purpose of medicine is to cure and have a healthy normal life. Dead is not a diseas that you can cure. So doing something whith your body to life forever is nor natural and a wishful thinking for peopel who are afraid....

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                        1000 years is not forever my friend...

                        indefinitely doesn't mean forever either, indefinitely just means indefinitely and since no one really knows when were supposed to die, this would not be an issue in terms of religion. and you're supposed to be an educated person?
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                          And by the way medicine is to cure an ilness not just to extend life, some peopel can live on medicine longer but choose dead, becuase the live whith the medicine would be hard and painfull. The purpose of medicine is to cure and have a healthy normal life. Dead is not a diseas that you can cure. So doing something whith your body to life forever is nor natural and a wishful thinking for peopel who are afraid....


                          You cure illness to extend life , medicine also helps improve how long we live and so on, I am sorry but your claim is just FALSE on every account..... and actually there is a new theory that death is actually a disease, by the definition of disease
                          Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 03-24-2012, 04:13 PM.
                          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                            Per Nial Ferguson, Tony Blankley, George Weigel, Mark Steyn:

                            Ferguson: The greatest of all strengths of radical Islam ... is that it has demography on its side. The Western culture against which it has declared holy war cannot possibly match the capacity of traditional Muslim societies when it comes to reproduction... While European fertility had fallen below the natural replacement leves in the 1970s, the decline in the muslim world has been much slower. By the late 1990s, the fertility rate in eight Muslim countries to the south and east of the European Union was two and a half times higher than the European figures.

                            Blankley: The replacement rate for a population is an average of 2.1 babies per woman. Western Europe is currently at approximately 1.4. Russia is about 1.1.. as birthrates slip below the replacement rate, two things happen. First, the average age of the population goes up. This becomes important for funding retirement benefits, with ever fewer working and tax paying younger people supporting ever more non working and benefit collecting older people. It is also significant for the overall productivity of an economy. There is no example in history of a nation becoming more prosperous when it doesnt have an expanding population.

                            Weigel: Above all, and most urgently, why is Europe committing demographic suicide, systematically depopulating itself... Who do 18 European countries report "negative natural increase (i.e. more deaths than births)? Who does no Western European country have a replacement level birthrate?... Why will Europe's retired population increase by 55% % in the next 25 years, while its working population will shrink by 8%-- and, to repeat, why can't Europeans, either populations or the public, draw the obvious conclusions from these figures abou the impending bankruptcy of their social welfare, health care, and pension systems?

                            Steyn: For a stable population--i.e no growth, no decline, just a million folks in 1950, a million in 1980, a million in 2010 --- you need a fertility rate of 2.1 live births per woman. That's what America has: 2.1 give or take. Canada has 1.48, al all time low... Europe as a whole has 1.38, Japan 1.32, Russia, 1.14. These countries -- or, more precisely, these people---are going out of business... Europe, like Japan, has catastrophic birthrates and a swollen pampered elderly class determined to live in defiance of economic reality. But the difference is that on the Continent the successor [Muslim] population is already in place and the only question is how bloody the transfer of real estate will be.

                            Niall Ferguson "The March of Islam" Daily Telegraph May 21 06 + "The Origins of the Great War of 2007-- and How it Could have been prevented" Jan 25 2006

                            Tony Blankley "The West's Last Chance, Will we Win the Clash of Civilizations?" 147-48

                            George Weigel, The Cube and Cathedral: Europe, America, and Politics Without God page 21-22

                            Steyn from America Alone pages 2, 32

                            Allah fordbid that all of the above turns out to be false. I pray to Allah that European society propspers and ovecomes these trends and I believe they will.

                            Imagine if there was no electricity, no modern medicines, no modern surgery, no health systems or hospitals (think about it when you run off to a hospital for free treatment of a family member), no heating or cooling, no cars, no planes, no phones, no computers, no TVs, no running water, no sewage treatment..I could go on and on..

                            I sincerely hope Europe does not become a Morrocco or Egypt or Libya as predicted above..

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                            • #44
                              ^Omg you sounds so dum.... It's against islam infinetley=forever
                              you talk just trash here to sound smart but sadly you are not.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                                Yes, I am smart and studieng so I will get a good job after my studie, I listen to my parents, help them whith everything, have respect to elderly peopel, I don't drink or go to late night partys, I am not arrogant, I don't spend money on useless things like expensive clothes or phones,.... I always help people who ask me for help... So according to pashtun standarts I represnt quality. What kind of quality do you have? except of anoying peopel on forums LOL...
                                You sound like a very good person. Keep on this path..

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