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    We call ourselves people of “nang ow namos” (honour and esteem), and if you want to see how nangiyaal (honourable) we are then you should visit our local bazaars. YES! that’s where WE Pakhtun men walk with our chest high, often with our .32 caliber guns or AK47s hanging from our shoulders.

    Our reality lies not on those high mountains, nor in the beautiful lakes, or in the sound of the Rabab with a bonfire and young men performing attanr, but within these crowded bazaars; a rigid reality to which even we are blind. If you gaze down from our pakols(hats) to our saplay(slippers), our reality will hit you in a face on these streets of our local bazaars.

    A woman in a burqa

    Sitting on a dusty pavement.

    A hungry child, sleeping in her lap.

    Exposing only her wrinkled hand through the burqa with a begging gesture.

    Her head tilted to the right, she has lost the battle of life.

    Most of us will claim bazaar is a no place for women, and if they must come then they must be invisible in burqa, but what we mean to say is that it is no place for women who are better than us; but if in misery we accept them as a showpiece in a place where we walk so high and mighty. We walk past these women as if they don’t exist but we are aware of their existence. It’s our way of assuring ourselves that we are better than them and those women we take care of are not on the street because our presence in their lives made a difference. For us honour lies in taking lives, not in making lives better.



  • #2
    Pashtuns are suffering , women, men, children, babies are dead and you are talking about womens rights :/

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DaMalakandGhar View Post
      We call ourselves people of “nang ow namos” (honour and esteem), and if you want to see how nangiyaal (honourable) we are then you should visit our local bazaars. YES! that’s where WE Pakhtun men walk with our chest high, often with our .32 caliber guns or AK47s hanging from our shoulders.

      Our reality lies not on those high mountains, nor in the beautiful lakes, or in the sound of the Rabab with a bonfire and young men performing attanr, but within these crowded bazaars; a rigid reality to which even we are blind. If you gaze down from our pakols(hats) to our saplay(slippers), our reality will hit you in a face on these streets of our local bazaars.

      A woman in a burqa

      Sitting on a dusty pavement.

      A hungry child, sleeping in her lap.

      Exposing only her wrinkled hand through the burqa with a begging gesture.

      Her head tilted to the right, she has lost the battle of life.

      Most of us will claim bazaar is a no place for women, and if they must come then they must be invisible in burqa, but what we mean to say is that it is no place for women who are better than us; but if in misery we accept them as a showpiece in a place where we walk so high and mighty. We walk past these women as if they don’t exist but we are aware of their existence. It’s our way of assuring ourselves that we are better than them and those women we take care of are not on the street because our presence in their lives made a difference. For us honour lies in taking lives, not in making lives better.



      Have you walked...pass these women?

      What did...you do...?

      Did you help...the ones you came...across?

      Its sad to see...such..things.

      It shouldn't be...happening.

      If everyone...helped..it wouldn't be...happening.
      I believe the sun should never set upon an argument.
      I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness.

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      • #4
        Isnt that the same thing in every country that has beggars?? even in the developed US or Europe you have beggars, so you can expect it on a much bigger scale in a third world country no? it happens because of the economy and structure of a country not nang or namus.
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        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

        Originally posted by Karachi
        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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        • #5
          there should be a draw to pick a random member of the society and have it's finger chopped off every time a citizen of a country dies of unnatural causes. there would be so much peace and serenity in the world..

          I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

          non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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          • #6
            ^No there would be just more peopel whitout fingers...

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            • #7
              people don't commit crimes these days because they are dumb, they do it because they are selfish and they know that no one will hold them accountable. the entire public beheadings by taliban and setting camps on fire of hitler was a great technique used for the wrong reasons. it would have worked perfectly had they punished actual criminals that way and rewarded rightfulness to motivate people..

              I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

              non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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              • #8
                This is what happens when people don't do Jihad. Corrupt governments who can't rule and are not accountable to anyone and corrupt people who don't pay zakat and tax. A perfect recipe for disaster.

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                • #9
                  those baggers were also back in the taliban times there , but they were not so many , because not so many people were displaced .

                  but the struggle for the day was also back then hard , men standing all day long at the street looking to get a day job ....

                  the restriction of banning women from work , hit especially widows with small children . and this is the number one factor to force people into immoral behaviour or immoral jobs !!!

                  however there were some smart people among the taliban who didnt took this so called law not so serious , if a woman sold some stuff on the street at the bazar . they didnt pay too much attention or overlooked it .

                  its easy to talk about jihad and zakkat and this and that with a full stomach , but in such a situation every one is looking to make the day and the month there is not so much solidarity as some people want it in their idealistic view . khalq alta pe cha parwa e na dar woda la .


                  , considering , that there are enough people which you have to support ,( parents , older relatives who are alone some one who is handycapped )

                  so if you are alone , a woman and you have a child , its very difficult and hard .


                  so some people who didnt see it , again just have too simple answers

                  and a pink view on their heros .

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                  • #10
                    These beggars happens to be in every society whether developed, developing or under developed but the main thing is how they are treated in the developed societies. What they get from their govts ? In Islam it is first the society's responsibility to do something for that very person and the society fails to do by any reason then it is the govt's responsibility to take that person's responsibility for his basic financial needs.

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                    • #11
                      Nang and Namus are my nicknames for my right and left fists

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Amir al Ghaznavi View Post
                        Nang and Namus are my nicknames for my right and left fists
                        Funniest joke I have heard all day. How did the talk in NYC go? I missed it as I was in the midwest.
                        "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                          Funniest joke I have heard all day. How did the talk in NYC go? I missed it as I was in the midwest.

                          Went very well...i was treated to an amazing time by a most gracious qandahari host

                          Props to flushings

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Amir al Ghaznavi View Post
                            Went very well...i was treated to an amazing time by a most gracious qandahari host

                            Props to flushings
                            Ghaznavi, was it this forum with Kelly Vlahos?

                            http://original.antiwar.com/vlahos/2...he-left-forum/

                            Are you starting to write your own book?
                            "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                            • #15
                              Yup that was the forum...i only went to my own panel...too busy sight seeing lol

                              And no, no book for me just yet...strictly focused
                              On major personal developments and writing articles/activism for now

                              Im tryin to go back home nxt summer, thats when i wanna put a book together

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