Malcolm x: The house negro and the field negro

[abassinafghan]

i agree with you brother but we must knwo thats their governments and filthy kings who treat muslims as such but we must knwo there is a difference between people and the rulers and systems of those countries

every one just get what he deserves , those so called bad bag rulers are more than a half century into power , and unless last year all those poor arabs , were not able to over throwe them ...... or not willing ???

just look into our history , how many coup etats , overthrow and battle we have gone thrue , but still those people insist to give us lectures about islam .

and most of the people of northern afrika to saudistan , are as corrupted and rotten as their leaders .

yemenis and somalis are descent people , but the rest are indeed good for nothing muslim or not , you can throw them away .

i dont knwo abotu that bro,osama was invited by northern alliance to mediate so it is possible that through northern alliance the cia brought osama to afghansitan to find justification for invasion.

he didnt just lived his live there , he didnt did a living by hard field work , no ....
he wanted to live out his dreams ...

I dotn knwo abotu this part.

you should come to reality , its not our job or our obligation to be nice or friendly to any one , considering all ther misery we have gone true , and all the advantage people took of it . we have more than enough problems , than being concernd about others .

wheter osama , really did 911 , like alot of those socalled proud wanna be salafis scream , or the americans did . it doesnt change anything , that his presence was used to inflict a war on us .
why not another country why not his own country ???

we dont need to fight for international islam , where have been all the good persecuted muslims been in saudista , the gulfstates , miser , algeria ,morroco , uzbekistan and the rest all those years long ???

countries , power and might is not built by taking a rifle and shooting 30 year old surplus ammunition ´for the sake of dream , in a attempt of people who want to do it the easy way .


we have to feed the hungry first , we have to build up our country , we have to build up schools , we have to give people jobs , opportunities , a future and a presence , which is worth working for it .

and i can gurantee you , that mullah sahib and mualana akhund wont give you this .
he will just show you how to be a moral being , but to be a moral being is not good enough .

just look back in the 90s what amir sahib did , if stupid saudis and napakis were able to be recognized , than shame be upon him that he didnt could not do this .

instead of taking advantage of every one he could use , he killed so many people , who were some times simple mamurs , but they said they were kafirs or this and that . .....

but why i just get upset by , it .


we have people who love and respect strangers , who live in kufr more than their brothers and sister . than their fathers and mothers than their children .

just because a donkey from some where else speaks alittle arabic , and claims to be alim and has got a beard mean while in his own country , the coward dont dare to speak out .....

[Al Hanif]

wow, you took all that time just for me alf? sweet.

Don't worry, I have all my time.

I understand your frustration since it's not the case for you.

How much is the life expectancy in Australia ?

[tor_khan]

I have a question which is probably worthy of another thread, but as I understand it, whilst Muslims are encouraged to free slaves, in an 'ideal' Muslims theocracy slavery is still a legally defined status within Islamic jurisprudence.

Therefore as per the Islamic definition of slavery, free-born Muslims would be at liberty to buy and sell human slaves, right?

Am I right in understanding that technically, slavery therefore cannot be outlawed?

[badmash_khel]

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well, I am not sure but the Ottomans outlawed it in their dominions. I think it depends on the Khalif of the time. This is not an authoritative answer, just my own undrestanding.

[Dreamer]

It's one of those things that are "brushed under the carpet"

[abassinafghan]

you will find some echuans who will tell you that it is leagal , and some of those donkeys apply it even .

slavery is one of the worest kind of crimies . no man should be subject to another .

friedrich engels wrote this about us

The Afghans are divided into clans[41], over which the various chiefs exercise a sort of feudal supremacy. Their indomitable hatred of rule, and their love of individual independence, alone prevents their becoming a powerful nation

and its true , something like slavery never existed in this form like in the arab states or the united states or french colonies did !!!!

yes there where some times in periods where hazaras were rolam , but slavery didnt existed in such extend .

[Al Hanif]

Manzrey, you are a perfect psychopath self-delusional and brought-up on hatred as most Pakis are. In the first place, West didn't send a special ticket for you neither for other problematic Muslims male-adjusted every where, prone to violence, cribbing, complaining, conspiring, and undermining the societies where they live like parasites.

My ancestors brought mathematics to Europeans without what computers wouldn't exist in the first place and you wouldn't even be typing what you're typing on your computer. See how we're superior.

What do you do, while being on your 40s, single, in Canada, trying desesperately to stop Islam ? Do you realise how much of a failure you are ? Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the most influencial man in history, the greatest man who ever lived. He met people like you when he was alive, they tried to stop Islam and failed miserably. What do you you think you are ? You are nothing. Nothing.

It was that your father brought you to the land of opportunities and justice in order to escape poverty, repression, war, and extreme backwardness. So West or for that matter no civilized and advanced country is obliged to you in any way. Rather, you and your ancestors should be grateful to the West to give you protection and rights as any other Westerner.

Westerners should be grateful to us because my ancestors brought the best mathematicians, the best philosophers in Muslim Spain thus paving the way for European Renaissance. You house-negro living in Canada have no dignity, no honour, no identity. You are a house-negro.

I am quite sure the West doesn't need problematic Muslims like you and should immediately depart you to replace you with more law-abiding, willing to integrate, skilled, and productive non-Muslims as well as peaceful Muslims from India, China, Russia, Eastern Europe, South America, Africa, etc. who would be willing to immigrate in hundreds of millions.

You are not even able to do what I do. Who do you think you are ? Show us what you produced ? You produced less things than Mullah Omar. Even Mullah Omar will have his name in history books. And you ? You belong to the dustbin of history.

As for slavery, research Arab Muslim history thoroughly. Wherever did Arab go, they plundered and looted for jehad spoil or war booty and took wives, mothers, daughters, and sisters of the conquered people as londhis or sex women and sons, fathers, and brothers as slaves often selling them in slave markets separating mothers from daughters, fathers from sons, etc. Not only that, they also imposed special tax on non-Muslims called jizya to make them second-class citizens on their own land.

The non-muslims had to pay special taxes but they also hadn't to pay Zakat tax and they were offered protection as people of the book.

I see your miserable failure at life is the cause of your hatred of Arab and Islam.

Also, why don't you talk about what your white masters did ? I expect you to describe what the whites did the same way you describe what the arabs did.

[Dreamer]

Philopsphers of Muslim Spain where Berbers or spanish converts to Islam... or decendents of converts... not arabs...

[Al Hanif]

Philopsphers of Muslim Spain where Berbers or spanish converts to Islam... or decendents of converts... not arabs...

I am a Berber.

[Dreamer]

I am a Berber.

Oh I stand corrected... Most Berbers I know hate arabs...

[Dreamer]

A good example of the rulers of Muslim Spain was Abdul Rashid the 3rd who was in fact 3/4 Spanish... 1/4 Non spanish.... yet arabs love to jump on his success... again with the figure of Saladin... who was in fact a Kurd

[Al Hanif]

Oh I stand corrected... Most Berbers I know hate arabs...

I don't hate any ethnicity. But I like people proportionally to their faith in Allah SWT.

[Dreamer]

I don't hate any ethnicity. But I like people proportionally to their faith in Allah SWT.

How about liking people not on their belief in God but rather than in their human goodness?

[abassinafghan]

My ancestors brought mathematics to Europeans without what computers wouldn't exist in the first place

Westerners should be grateful to us because my ancestors brought the best mathematicians, the best philosophers in Muslim Spain

what did you bring to your people ? or to the world ???

[Al Hanif]

How about liking people not on their belief in God but rather than in their human goodness?

Human "goodness" is a subjective concept.

Is stoning to death adulterers good ?