Robert Pape destroying Sam Harris and Soldat Amir narrative with data/facts

[IamDZJ]

i can't believe some of you idiots, going around, calling each other fat. it's bad enough when we have 10 year olds do that to each other but when **** headed grown ups with no excuse for showing that type of immaturity do it, i get the urge of burring their kids one by one in a sandbox of a school playground.

[Manzareh]

Soldat, watch from 7.05secounds to 10.20.

Please share your feedback from the facts proven here.

[randolph85]

i can't believe some of you idiots, going around, calling each other fat. it's bad enough when we have 10 year olds do that to each other but when **** headed grown ups with no excuse for showing that type of immaturity do it, i get the urge of burring their kids one by one in a sandbox of a school playground.

he puts himself on video so what does he expect? his arguments have been refuted, so there is nothing else to comment on beside his weight and his hair loss.

[MostafaM]

His arguements have been refuted?

You mean it´s been proven that the insurgency of 20.000 men (Taliban and other factions) are self-sufficient regarding weaponry, logistics and training and that there is no proxy war being fought on Afghan soil?

You must be kidding me, Randolph.

[IamDZJ]

he puts himself on video so what does he expect? his arguments have been refuted, so there is nothing else to comment on beside his weight and his hair loss.

so once we have refuted one's argument, we move on to making fun of their physical appearance?? we are not 12 anymore.

[randolph85]

so once we have refuted one's argument, we move on to making fun of their physical appearance?? we are not 12 anymore.

usually not, but when the person in question advocates the deaths of innocent afghans, id say calling him a fatty is probably not bad in comparison.

[IamDZJ]

learn how to behave like decent human beings first then move on to questioning the death of innocent afghans. you people disgust me.

[Manzareh]

His arguements have been refuted?

You mean it´s been proven that the insurgency of 20.000 men (Taliban and other factions) are self-sufficient regarding weaponry, logistics and training and that there is no proxy war being fought on Afghan soil?

You must be kidding me, Randolph.

You government sympathists are never on the back foot, always stretching your fingers out of fox news and pointing them on people that only react in retaliation.

So Mostafa Bush tell us, how come all your governments plots against Islam only started in the 1990's? Its pretty simple actually, all these so called Islamist terrorism problems that we see today were fuelled and are instigated by the western governments, the video proves this by facts. Not by a Muslim but by a Jew.

Its not a case of Soldat arguements being refuted, its a case of our arguement towards you not being refuted, the likes of him which includes people like you.

[Manzareh]

he puts himself on video so what does he expect? his arguments have been refuted, so there is nothing else to comment on beside his weight and his hair loss.

He's most probly going to reply with the usual "Islamic people are backwards, Mullah blah blah did this in wana to such and such" which gives perfect justification destroying countries and people as usual.

either that or hes waiting for instructions and a pre written reply from the Ex-Muslim council forum that he's a member of.

[DaMalakandGhar]

He's most probly going to reply with the usual "Islamic people are backwards, Mullah blah blah did this in wana to such and such" which gives perfect justification destroying countries and people as usual.

either that or hes waiting for instructions and a pre written reply from the Ex-Muslim council forum that he's a member of.

What a Buffon you are! Just one Robert Pape cannot nullify the pile of evidence against the darkness.

[Manzareh]

Whats a buffon and what the heck does " Just one Robert Pape cannot nullify the pile of evidence against the darkness." mean, in English please

[Manzareh]

"just one guy(pape) telling the truth cannot nullify our mountain of lies and propaganda against darkness(Islam)"

Thanks for the translation,

however that still doesnt make sence, "nullify our mountain of lies and propaganda against Islam"?? thats basically saying youv told mountain of lies and spreaded propaganda against Islam. but then he calls it (darkness) does anybody else see this gentleman as being a confused baffoon or is it just me.

by the way, whether it comes from mouths of a million people or one person, the facts are facts. all it takes is one man sometimes.

[haviZsultan]

And Ill buy you a pink elephent when you finally get rid of that video camera and exchange it for a British army uniform or for an ANP uniform or for a Mehsud Laskhaar uniform. Until then you are the bigger coward, sitting in the West, letting drones do your work so taht the folks get mad at Tom **** and Harry isntead of Amir Mehsud who is really advocating for their deaths.

Go to waziristan and make some videos of you killing these Taliban and then you can talk.

Otherwise, you are useless until you apologise for your commentary about how Afghans are very very very untrustworthy.

We have all become a race of complainers. I kind of agree with your post. Pashtuns on both sides are brothers and should remain as such. We shouldn't say anything that hurts people on either side.

And the question remains if army/ISI/Hakeemullah are doing all this what are the rest of us doing. Sitting and complaining?

[Khostai]

so once we have refuted one's argument, we move on to making fun of their physical appearance?? we are not 12 anymore.

They are mentaly 12

[MostafaM]

You government sympathists are never on the back foot, always stretching your fingers out of fox news and pointing them on people that only react in retaliation.

So Mostafa Bush tell us, how come all your governments plots against Islam only started in the 1990's? Its pretty simple actually, all these so called Islamist terrorism problems that we see today were fuelled and are instigated by the western governments, the video proves this by facts. Not by a Muslim but by a Jew.

Its not a case of Soldat arguements being refuted, its a case of our arguement towards you not being refuted, the likes of him which includes people like you.

Heere Mendi Boy,

intervention by western powers started in Afghanistan when?
During the Carter regime?
Right!
Thanks.

The medling of your Pakistani nation, the support of islamic internationalistic groups like Hisb-e Islami and Jamiat started in 1975. The "Panjsher Mutiny", it´s failure, the structure of this operation and the hiding of those Islamists like Massoud and Gulbudin in Pakistan clearly shows when and how "Heera Mendiism" started to undermine Afghanistan.

Political Islam as a tool to undermine the base of a nation was not a British or Jewish invention.

You cannot fool here anyone with your Pro-Paki rhetorics.

Murtads like you and Shehbaz Khan are well-known Pseudo-Zahid-Hamids.

Afghanistan, Pashtuns and the Pashtun cause shouldn´t be your people´s concerne. This is an internal matter of Pashtuns.
You stick to your "proud Paki rhetorics" on Pak-Defence.com.