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    Sam Harris vs Robert Pape on Suicide Terrorism - YouTube

  • #2
    Resistance

    Are you telling me a son of a Jewish Anti defamation group is your source of information?

    Like I said, if you want to prove me wrong, and not hide like most Muslims in the west do, buy yourself a ticket to Waziristan, when you reach DI Khan, take a coach from Tank Adda straight to Miram Shah, when your there, ask for the local emir saab and ask him about the "fidayeen", if you do this, I will close my accounts, delete my videos, become a alim and pray 5 times a day.





    Do you know the uploader of Mujahideenwaziristan is a former Talib called Zain Maseed from Karachi, I use to speak to him on Skype.

    Why should I get educated on facts I have seen with my own eyes by a American lol!!!!!!



    Run along little boy, dont play in a big mans game. I know you love Pakistan Cricket team.

    I can sense these Pakistanis using Yankee political thought to hide their own crimes.

    Go on, take my offer, prove me wrong, and I will close everything down.

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    • #3
      .....noorany zalmeya....de jannat hoorey entezaar dey.....

      The only constant is change.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
        .....noorany zalmeya....de jannat hoorey entezaar dey.....

        This is the thing, most here, live and raised up in the West, so they think those in Afghanistan think just like them, when they go there, and see for themselves Mullah Nasruddin holding hand of 10 year old bride, they will be shocked, when they see young boys rolling in the dirt and sewage and taken for "Fidayeen" training in Waziristan by a dirty perverted Talib Emir, they will realise the ground realities.

        Has this Pape fella ever been to Afghanistan or Pakistan, the minute people see his Sra Kwana in the Bazooor, they will probably kidnap him or introduce him to the Kanjar!


        I bet our Pakistani vorar, Resistance has never heard of DI Khan civil Hospital where a young Maseed talib Fidayeen blew himself up just to kill some Shia's.

        I hope they take my offer.

        I will become Alim if these guys to Miram Shah and ask for the Local Alim about his supply of Fidayeens.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
          This is the thing, most here, live and raised up in the West, so they think those in Afghanistan think just like them, when they go there, and see for themselves Mullah Nasruddin holding hand of 10 year old bride, they will be shocked, when they see young boys rolling in the dirt and sewage and taken for "Fidayeen" training in Waziristan by a dirty perverted Talib Emir, they will realise the ground realities.

          Has this Pape fella ever been to Afghanistan or Pakistan, the minute people see his Sra Kwana in the Bazooor, they will probably kidnap him or introduce him to the Kanjar!


          I bet our Pakistani vorar, Resistance has never heard of DI Khan civil Hospital where a young Maseed talib Fidayeen blew himself up just to kill some Shia's.

          I hope they take my offer.

          I will become Alim if these guys to Miram Shah and ask for the Local Alim about his supply of Fidayeens.
          Motives motives motives. This coming from the same person who sends Britishers to die for his cause. You go on rants like spoiled child about how we are against our adopted countries... yet you are a patriot??? Howso because Prince Harry is doing the job you refuse to do as you successively gain weight with each passing video you post?

          Since you know where these guys are, why aren't you taking care of eliminating them? Ohhh I forgot because you would rather enjoy that water bed with the two black antique lamps on the sides of it.

          In regard to Pape, put up or shut up. Deal with the data. Whether Pape is from the moon or from Israel or from Saudi Arabia or the east end of Chicago ought not concern you.

          You know at this point that Ron Paul, Scheuer, Pape, the 9/11 commission report and a host of folks are calling your idiotic bluff and confirmd that these people are fighting not because of some hoori fantasy but because of what is done by the West in their countries. Some how you know more than these folks right??? Oooh what ISI unit are they in Soldat?

          Deal with the data Soldat and quit your childish rants.

          Apologise to All Afghans for your comments on these folks being barbarians and very very very untrustworthy. You used the word very x 3. Your words, not mine.

          Regarding the Wana comment you made on another threat. You fool, just 3 months ago you were toughting that fool Farjutt Taj Manderson's manifesto that she met an elder in wana that told her how loved the drones were etc etc. Now that your narrative is flunking you are starting to get antsy. The only one of us with a real solid connection to Pakistan's establishment groups is you. You are the one with two parents from the place + an uncle who supposedly heads up the media devoted to FATA + involvement in the ANP/PMAP groups.

          Just like your fellow sick psychopaths you could care less how many Britishers who sacrifice for your own perverted purposes of reorganizing Afghanistan to suit your fanciful nonexistent ahistorical narrative of some retards combing their hair at a river trying to make nookie with the girls.
          "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
            Resistance

            Are you telling me a son of a Jewish Anti defamation group is your source of information?

            Like I said, if you want to prove me wrong, and not hide like most Muslims in the west do, buy yourself a ticket to Waziristan, when you reach DI Khan, take a coach from Tank Adda straight to Miram Shah, when your there, ask for the local emir saab and ask him about the "fidayeen", if you do this, I will close my accounts, delete my videos, become a alim and pray 5 times a day.





            Do you know the uploader of Mujahideenwaziristan is a former Talib called Zain Maseed from Karachi, I use to speak to him on Skype.

            Why should I get educated on facts I have seen with my own eyes by a American lol!!!!!!



            Run along little boy, dont play in a big mans game. I know you love Pakistan Cricket team.

            I can sense these Pakistanis using Yankee political thought to hide their own crimes.

            Go on, take my offer, prove me wrong, and I will close everything down.
            And Ill buy you a pink elephent when you finally get rid of that video camera and exchange it for a British army uniform or for an ANP uniform or for a Mehsud Laskhaar uniform. Until then you are the bigger coward, sitting in the West, letting drones do your work so taht the folks get mad at Tom **** and Harry isntead of Amir Mehsud who is really advocating for their deaths.

            Go to waziristan and make some videos of you killing these Taliban and then you can talk.

            Otherwise, you are useless until you apologise for your commentary about how Afghans are very very very untrustworthy.
            "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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            • #7
              BarakzaiAbdali your a talking hypocrite.

              If you are true to your word, burn your Yankee passport, and show us how loved you are in Wana Waziristan, oh wait, you wouldnt go there or subject your own kin to those harsh realities.

              Go on, accept my offer, go to Miram Shah and prove to me there is no Taliban, no Al Qaida, no suicide bombers, no children abused?????

              Go on Dr Peshawari Nan I have seen many Durranis such as you who disguised as Afghan, one use to head the ISI, you have any relations young chap?

              BTW you lived most of your life in the West, more than me!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                BarakzaiAbdali your a talking hypocrite.

                If you are true to your word, burn your Yankee passport, and show us how loved you are in Wana Waziristan, oh wait, you wouldnt go there or subject your own kin to those harsh realities.

                Go on, accept my offer, go to Miram Shah and prove to me there is no Taliban, no Al Qaida, no suicide bombers, no children abused?????

                Go on Dr Peshawari Nan I have seen many Durranis such as you who disguised as Afghan, one use to head the ISI, you have any relations young chap?

                BTW you lived most of your life in the West, more than me!

                Looool Peshawari Nan, you have relatives that reside there. Merely because my mother comes from a tribe on the other side of the durand hardly ties me to that city since her youth was spent in Kabul. (Btw you look pretty foolish since Afghans pretty much own the economic infrastructure of that city now ).

                Now now Soldat, no need to get red over the fact that you sleep on a comfortable water bed while the Royal Army is getting shot at.

                As I said, I have no need to intervene in Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Saudiya or Pakistan. Let them solve their issues. If you want to create issues for them as I have said, you seem to have direct evidences of your stays with those folks you want to kill.

                Go be a man... start a protein diet and a P90 X workout and go deal with them.

                Otherwise, please give us the information you have on pape's data that supports you.
                "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                • #9
                  Prince Harry is doing the job you refuse to do as you successively gain weight with each passing video you post?
                  There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                  Sayyid Qutb

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                    BTW you lived most of your life in the West, more than me!

                    Morocco is located to the west of France so if I go back to live in my country of origin, technically, I will become more westernized.

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                    • #11
                      And please wear something else other than Black. The Grim Reaper may have copyright on those clothes.
                      "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                      • #12

                        in the this video both speakers have good points

                        I would actually like people to answer what Sam Harris asked in that video. There is no doubt that suicide bombings are not part of Islam, but what about violence that has plagued the muslim world since the beginning? There has to be reason for it. I mean even on this forum we have guys like Sunni and Al hanif who are rushing to kill guys like Hamza Kashgari, how do you explain this? isn't this violent?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BarakzaiAbdali View Post
                          And please wear something else other than Black. The Grim Reaper may have copyright on those clothes.

                          have you noticed him now rocking the comb forward?
                          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                          Sayyid Qutb

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                            I bet our Pakistani vorar, Resistance has never heard of DI Khan civil Hospital where a young Maseed talib Fidayeen blew himself up just to kill some Shia's.

                            I hope they take my offer.

                            I will become Alim if these guys to Miram Shah and ask for the Local Alim about his supply of Fidayeens.

                            Brother, refute the facts with facts not emotional diatribes. Please watch the video Pape addresses all of your concerns. I believe you are a young impressible mind that has been mislead. You are the by product of your homeland (English) and society (English). I don't expect you to understand the sentiments of people from Khyber Pashtunkhwa or Afghanistan.

                            I dont understand what is it that you want me to do...yes those things exist the one you speak about and post video about. The problem is you fail to address the root cause of these things. Mr. Pape addresses those with facts/data.

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                            • #15
                              Pape...knows how to..crush...fake Propaganda.
                              I believe the sun should never set upon an argument.
                              I believe forgiveness is the key to your unhappiness.

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