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    Critics say force remains riddled with local factional interests.
    Despite a new survey indicating a rise in public confidence in the Afghan National Police, ANP, observers warn that the force’s loyalties remain divided, and this could pose a security threat once NATO forces withdraw in 2014.

    Research carried out by the Afghan Centre for Socio-Economic and Opinion Research, ACSOR and the United Nations Development Programme indicates that 81 per cent of respondents felt respect for the law-enforcement agencies, a rise of eight percentage points from three years ago.

    Local observers warn that despite the ANP’s apparently improved reputation, real concerns about its loyalties and cohesion persist.

    Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai, a politician who currently chairs the Afghan Transition Coordination Commission dealing with the security handover from NATO to Afghan troops, said he was very dissatisfied with the police service, particularly in the north of the country.

    “Police have been recruited on the basis of partisan, ethnic, and factional connections in the north,” he said, adding that once in uniform, their loyalties remained to their interest groups rather than to the public. “The police serve partisan, ethnic and parliamentary officials rather than the public. They take instructions from those who appointed them, and if they don’t do what they want, they will be fired.”

    Ahmadzai said while the Afghan National Army had made some progress in recent years, “I am more worried and concerned about the police; that mistreatment by them could jeopardise the [handover] process because they interact closely with the public,” he said.

    The ANP currently numbers around 150,000 officers, and tens of millions of dollars have been spent on forming and training the force, with particular input from the German and United States governments.

    In northern Afghanistan in particular, many agree with Ahmadzai’s suggestion that factional allegiances remain strong.

    Farid Ahmad Nurzai, a resident of the Dehdadi district of Balkh province, said that although he was happy Afghan forces were taking over from NATO, the current state of the ANP reminded him of the warlords and militias of the early 1990s.

    Many Afghans fear a return to the civil war, in which armed factions committed major abuses amid general chaos and lawlessness.

    “We can see that all the old militia members from Jamiat-e Islami and Junbesh-e Milli have been recruited either into local police units or to the ANP,” he said

    Nurzai said the outlook would be dire unless a real national police force that rose above factional interests was forged.

    A police officer in the north, who spoke on condition of anonymity, confirmed that ANP units across the region were divided along partisan lines.

    In Balkh province, they were linked to the mainly Tajik faction Jamiat-e Islami, whereas in neighbouring Jowzjan province they were Uzbek and loyal to Junbish-e Milli. In Sarepul and Samangan, control of ANP units was divided among Junbesh, Jamiat, and the Hazara faction Wahdat-e Islami.

    He claimed that the interior ministry was “filtering out policemen from other groups, the Pashtuns in particular”.

    According to Balkh resident, Fahim Sarwari, “The current police are the former militia members, just with a change of uniform.”

    Sarwari said the presence of international forces had ensured that the ANP more or less kept to the law, but a NATO exit could lead to a return of the chaos of the civil war era, with the police presenting a threat to civilians instead of protecting them.

    Interior ministry spokesman Seddiq Seddiqi insists ANP appointments are made on the basis of merit, not political affiliation.

    “Although some officials, including members of parliament, do lobby for certain individuals to be appointed to posts, the interior minister has never heeded any unsound recommendation,” he said.

    Seddiqi said that the ministry was planning to start moving ANP officers to different provinces to encourage a nationwide sense of loyalty.

    Another police officer in the north, however, said the ANP lacked the kind of disciplined management that would curb ethnic, linguistic and regional affiliations, build morale in the force, and forge a sense of national cohesion.

    Claims that the interior ministry system was a meritocracy, he said, were “an absolute lie”.

    Political analyst Abdul Wakil agreed that the former militia leaders still exerted more influence over police officers than ANP commanders or government ministers.

    “How, then, can the nation trust this police force?” he asked.

  • #2
    I love all people of Afghanistan and have close intimate ties with all ethnic groups...but the Shamal need to get their act together, because they wont come out on top if shiiit pops off....im saying this out of love....when blood spills, itll spill in the north not south

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    • #3
      It's all fake. These ethnic militias (Pashtun and non-Pashtun) just abuse the people regardless of ethnicity
      In the North you have Dostum, and in the South you have Abdul Raziq. They are criminals


      These protests in Kabul and Mazar prove that the people all across Afghanistan are being oppressed by Filthy fake Afghan expat failure émigrés like Kharzai/Spanta/ashraf Ghani who support war.

      northern Alliance is a criminal outfit. They don't care about Tajik Afghans at all. Dostum does not give a rats assss about Uzbeks. Khalili does not give a rats asssss about o Hazaras. The only credible person out of the reatarded alliance is probably Ismail Khan - this guy actually does stuff for people and has kept out of the illegal Karzai regime. Mohaqiq may also be representative of his people.

      Rabbani was a piece of shiiit who also did not give a ratss assss about Afghans. People were soft to him because he was old.

      In the North. northern alliance militias are abusing Northern Afghans (Pashtuns and non-Pashtuns). They just pretend to keep this ethnocentric front.


      The worst are the failed expat Western Afghans like Karzai and Spanta who promote war
      Last edited by Ghundal; 02-23-2012, 02:11 PM.

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      • #4
        good joke
        Ismail Khan - this guy actually does stuff for people and has kept out of the illegal Karzai regime.
        again a small alak heard some adult talking about stuff which dont understand on his own and reapeat it like a parrot on his own .

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        • #5
          You don't provide any way of refuting what I said

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          • #6
            so ghundal, exactly what system of governance do you propose for afghansitan, so that it can have a peaceful future and become a developed country?
            how would you recommend the system you propose be put into action?

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            • #7
              well ismail khan has been a minister in karzai's cabinet for years. at least he was the only warlord that did anything for his city during the 90s.
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

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              • #8
                you have the same people in power that were in power before the taliban came. expect nothing but the same reaction except that it will be longer and bloodier. Those shamali leaders dont have the courage and the sefllessness to make hard decisions because it wont be them and their families that will suffer from the effects of their incompetence.

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                • #9
                  well as i said the world is full of the simple and stupid .

                  he has done nothing for afghanistan and also nothing for his city .


                  just ask arround how many people tried to build up something in herat or in farah , economical and business wise , no single iranian has to pay traffic on their goods they import to afghanistan .

                  your ismael khar , is just too much of an iranian amu , opening the border and for dancing with the koss keshs in theran .

                  he was also responisbly for the adoment of terrasing the helmand river , so it could be used for electricity and a water resoiver , for aqua planting .

                  why ? because the iranian use this water .


                  so ghandul keep some where else looking for heros my small american friend

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by abassinafghan View Post
                    well as i said the world is full of the simple and stupid .

                    he has done nothing for afghanistan and also nothing for his city .


                    just ask arround how many people tried to build up something in herat or in farah , economical and business wise , no single iranian has to pay traffic on their goods they import to afghanistan .

                    your ismael khar , is just too much of an iranian amu , opening the border and for dancing with the koss keshs in theran .

                    he was also responisbly for the adoment of terrasing the helmand river , so it could be used for electricity and a water resoiver , for aqua planting .

                    why ? because the iranian use this water .


                    so ghandul keep some where else looking for heros my small american friend
                    Retard,

                    Be clear when you read something. First of all, I do not favor Ismail khan or Mohaqiq. I am pointing out objective facts. They all are in power due to the US war. Had it not been for the US war, these people pushed out like Karzai.

                    This war is ending, and these warlords along with Karzai will run. There will be no civil war at all

                    Case in point, it is your Northern Alliance, your Kharzai ,

                    Your US war!

                    Pakistan is not behind Afghan insurgency

                    Pakistan is behind the US war

                    Those warlords do not represent the people, but themselves .

                    Also as in the past, please provide evidence for your claims.



                    Mere statements by you don't mean a thing. That you heard this or you saw that.


                    Mohaqiq and Ismail Khan do represent their people more so than others.
                    They have support from their people . To say that they don't have support . I am opposed to Sherzai, but it can not be denied that he has support . He has done some things that increased his credibility . He is not Maitullah Khan or Abdul Raziq.

                    Learn to think objectively, not like a passionate retard who says water is fire and fire is water.

                    Afghan "insurgency" has strong support from Afghanistan otherwise it would not have lasted. You deny that though because you disagree with their aims. This is called being biased. You see what you want to see, not what it is


                    These people would then be probably the only legit reps of their people for any talks when the war is over

                    However the rest of the Northern Alliance will most likely disappear with the rest of the karzai/Spanta
                    Last edited by Ghundal; 02-24-2012, 11:13 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ghundal View Post
                      Pakistan is not behind Afghan insurgency

                      You son of an effing lying bitch! mofo

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                      • #12
                        How is pakistan behind the insurgency when the afghan governmnet incompetence itself is the cause. Stop blaming others and start looking at yourself for the solution otherwise you will never solve anything.

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                        • #13
                          That is another side of the story, and a seperate one, Khushal.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by khushal View Post
                            How is pakistan behind the insurgency when the afghan governmnet incompetence itself is the cause. Stop blaming others and start looking at yourself for the solution otherwise you will never solve anything.
                            Pakistan supports the US war and the illegal karzai regime.

                            Pakistan gives supply routes to the US/karzai/Spanta

                            Pakistan permits and endorses drone attacks in FATA and elsewhere

                            Without Pakistan, there is no US war

                            Supporters of Karzai and the US war
                            are supporters of the napaki army plain and simple.

                            These people love the napaki army for supporting the US war

                            And try to deny Afghan legitimate right to freedom and independence by saying that Afghan opposition to the US is Pakistani centric which makes no sense. Pakistan supports the US/karzai war

                            Karzai is a typical example of expat failure émigrés as he and Spanta requested that Pakistan continue to support the US war with supply routes

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                            • #15
                              It is called double standads, may be you with your intellectual impishness do not qualify to have a view on this matter. Or may you are a big time Paki harami.

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