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    Afghans besiege US base in protest over Quran burning

    Shah Marai / AFP - Getty Images
    A man aims a slingshot toward U.S. soldiers at the gate of Bagram airbase during a protest against Quran desecration on Feb. 21, 2012 north of Kabul, Afghanistan. Protesters besieged the base and guards responded by firing rubber bullets from a watchtower, an AFP photographer said as the crowd shouted "Allahu akbar, Allahu akbar" (God is great).


    Massoud Hossaini / AFP - Getty Images
    A U.S. soldier wields his assault rifle as another soldier handles a shotgun while standing at the gate of Bagram airbase during a protest on Feb. 21, 2012.


    Msnbc.com and news services report — Afghan demonstrators used slingshots and fired guns in the air while U.S. helicopters responded with flares, after thousands of angry people gathered Tuesday to protest the alleged burning of copies of the Quran at the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan.
    The demonstrators — shouting "Die, die, foreigners!" — started gathering in the morning after learning of the incident.
    The top NATO general in Afghanistan, General John Allen, ordered an investigation, offered "sincere apologies" and said any improper handling of the Quran was "NOT intentional" in a written statement. Read the full story.
    Shah Marai / AFP - Getty Images
    Youths take cover from rubber bullets shot by U.S. soldiers at the gates of Bagram airbase on Feb. 21, 2012.


    Shah Marai / AFP - Getty Images
    Demonstrators show copies of the Quran allegedly set alight by U.S. soldiers.


    Shah Marai / AFP - Getty Images
    A boy watches as a young man aims an airgun at U.S. soldiers at the gate of Bagram airbase on Feb. 21, 2012.


    Musadeq Sadeq / AP
    A protester gestures towards a U.S. soldier in front of the Bagram base on Feb. 21, 2012.








    Slingshots, guns fired at Afghan protest over Quran burning

    Shah Marai / AFP - Getty Images
    Afghan protesters throw stones toward U.S. soldiers standing at the gate of Bagram airbase during a protest Tuesday.


    By msnbc.com and news services
    Updated at 7:05 a.m. ET: KABUL -- Afghan demonstrators used slingshots and fired guns in the air while U.S. helicopters responded with flares, after thousands of angry people gathered Tuesday to protest the alleged burning of copies of the Quran at the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan.
    The demonstrators — shouting "Die, die, foreigners!" — started gathering in the morning after learning of the incident.
    The top NATO general in Afghanistan, General John Allen, ordered an investigation, offered "sincere apologies" and said any improper handling of the Quran was "NOT intentional" in a written statement. Advertise | AdChoices










    Photographs taken by the AFP news agency outside the Bagram airbase, an hour's drive north of the capital Kabul, showed people firing sling shots and others holding charred copies of the Quran, Islam's holy book.

    "There are about 2,000 to 3,000 demonstrators, throwing stones at the base and chanting down with the foreigners," Rahman Sayedkhili, a senior police officer in Parwan province, where Bagram is located, said.
    'Very angry'
    A Reuters reporter at one of Bagram's gates said flares were fired from U.S. helicopters in a bid to disperse the crowd.
    Shah Marai / AFP - Getty Images
    Afghan demonstrators show copies of the Quran allegedly set alight at Bagram airbase.


    "The people are very angry. The mood is very negative," Zia Ul Rahman, deputy provincial police chief, said. "Some are firing hunting guns in the air, but there have been no casualties."
    Police said a similar protest on Tuesday just east of Kabul ended peacefully.
    Roshna Khalid, the provincial governor's spokeswoman, said Qurans were burned inside Bagram, citing accounts from local laborers.
    "The laborers normally take the garbage outside and they found the remains of Qurans," she said.
    Latest killer of Afghan children: Hunger
    Ahmad Zaki Zahed, chief of the provincial council, said U.S. military officials gave him about 30 Qurans and other religious books that were recovered before they were destroyed.
    "Some are burned. Some are not burned," Zahed said, adding that the books were used by detainees once incarcerated at the base.
    The materials were in trash that two soldiers with the U.S.-led coalition transported in a truck late Monday night to a pit where garbage is burned on the base, according to Zahed, who spoke with five Afghans working at the pit.
    He said that when the workers noticed the religious books in the trash, they stopped the disposal process.
    Public relations disaster?
    Allen attempted to contain fury over the incident, which could be a public relations disaster for the U.S. military as it tries to pacify the country ahead of the withdrawal of foreign combat troops in 2014.
    Afghan refugees wait for relief from the cold weather
    "When we learned of these actions, we immediately intervened and stopped them. The materials recovered will be properly handled by appropriate religious authorities," said General John Allen, head of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF), in a written statement, as well as in a video released on a U.S. military website.
    "This was NOT intentional in any way," his written statement said.
    Bagram also houses a prison for Afghans detained by American forces. The center has caused resentment among Afghans because of reports of torture and ill-treatment of suspected Taliban prisoners, with President Hamid Karzai demanding the transfer of prisoners to Afghan security.
    NYT: Afghan girls pay price for elders' misdeeds
    Allen did not provide details on the incident.
    Winning the hearts and minds of Afghans is critical to U.S. efforts to defeating the Taliban, but critics say Western forces often fail to grasp Afghanistan's religious and cultural sensitivities.
    "I offer my sincere apologies for any offence this may have caused, to the president of Afghanistan, the government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, and most importantly, to the noble people of Afghanistan," Allen added.
    Protests raged for three days across Afghanistan in April last year after a U.S. pastor burned a Quran in Florida. Eleven people were killed when demonstrators stormed a U.N. compound in the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif, including seven foreign U.N. workers. Another riot in the southern city of Kandahar left nine dead and more than 80 wounded.
    Last edited by Ghundal; 02-21-2012, 07:50 AM.

  • #2
    When a Quran gets burnt because a suicide bomber blows himself up in a mosque nobody protests over that.

    When a girls school gets blown up by Islamist Militants, nobody protests over that.

    This is why that part of the world will remain in the dark ages, middle ages and will suffer in immense backwardness and poverty.

    To be honest, the West should just rethink its policies, honestly, democracy will never work for backward people.

    Instead, cut all aid to Pakistan, declare it as a terrorist supporting state, place sanctions on then, let them suffer that way.

    The other day a man killed his own child because she was a girl...nobody protested over that.

    To be honest, the region deserves it, the minute the west leaves Afghanistan, these same people will be flocking for refugee status, calling for aid and help, the minute anyone helps them, they become fanatical, to be honest, I really dont blame the vast majority of Afghans born abroad never wanting to settle back in Afghanistan.

    Its sadly still in the dark ages and really tries its best to be like Saudi Arabia.

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    • #3
      This protest is taking place in Kabul.

      Perhaps the Afghans are uniting and looking past ethnic differences stirred up by the outside. Perhaps the "Afghan Spring" has arrived?

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      • #4
        When a Quran gets burnt because a suicide bomber blows himself up in a mosque nobody protests over that.

        Because they are representing the afghan people.
        High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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        • #5
          2 Afghans have been killed

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          • #6
            'Die, die foreigners': Thousands of outraged Afghans protest outside American airbase after Koran burning insult by US troops

            By Alex Gore

            Last updated at 2:30 PM on 21st February 2012


            More than 2,000 angry Afghans are protesting today against the burning of Korans at a US air base - with some firing guns in the air and shouting 'die, die foreigners'
            Thick black smoke poured from fires started by demonstrators, who threw stones and other missiles at the sprawling Bagram Air Field in Parwan province, north of Kabul, and as the crowd grows, so does the outrage.
            Ahmad Zaki Zahed, chief of the provincial council, said US military officials gave him about 30 Korans and other religious books that were recovered before they were destroyed.

            Anger: Afghans throwing rocks at US soldiers at the gate of the airbase



            Inferno: Protesters light fires outside the base over burning of Korans



            'Some are burned. Some are not burned,' Zahed said, adding that the books were used by detainees once incarcerated at the base.
            The materials were in a pile of rubbish two soldiers with the US-led coalition transported in a truck late last night to a dump where garbage is burned on the base, according to Zahed, who spoke with five Afghans working at the pit.

            He said that when the workers noticed the religious books in the trash, they stopped the disposal process.

            More...



            Gen. John Allen, the US commander of international troops in Afghanistan, has ordered an investigation into the incident and offered his apologies to the president and people of Afghanistan.
            Allen said he received a report overnight that 'a large number of Islamic religious materials, which included Korans,' had been improperly disposed of at the base.

            Angry mob: Crowds grew throughout today's protest


            Protest: Demonstrators shout anti-US slogans at Bagram gates



            Burned: Protesters show copies of the burnt Korans









            'We are thoroughly investigating the incident and are taking steps to ensure this does not ever happen again,' Allen said in a statement.

            'I assure you, I promise you, this was not intentional in any way.'
            He also thanked the local Afghans 'who helped us identify the error, and who worked with us to immediately take corrective action.'


            High alert: US soldiers with guns at the ready
            Outrage: Crowds swelled outside the US base ad as the numbers grew so did the anger






            Plumes: Thick black smoke provides cover for a group of young stone-throwing demonstrators

            Zia Ul Rahman, deputy provincial police chief, said between 2,000 and 2,500 protesters were demonstrating at the base.


            'The people are very angry. The mood is very negative,' Rahman said.

            'Some are firing hunting guns in the air, but there have been no casualties.'

            Police said a similar protest on Tuesday just east of Kabul ended peacefully.

            In April 2011, Afghans protesting the burning of a Quran by a Florida pastor turned deadly when gunmen in the crowd stormed a UN compound in the northern city of Mazar-e-Sharif and killed three staffers and four Nepalese guards.

            Youth: Today's protests attracted Afghans of all ages


            Besieged: Protesters pelting the Bagram air field with missiles



            'Die, die foreigners': Protestor shouts anti-US slogansl

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
              When a Quran gets burnt because a suicide bomber blows himself up in a mosque nobody protests over that.

              When a girls school gets blown up by Islamist Militants, nobody protests over that.

              This is why that part of the world will remain in the dark ages, middle ages and will suffer in immense backwardness and poverty.

              To be honest, the West should just rethink its policies, honestly, democracy will never work for backward people.

              Instead, cut all aid to Pakistan, declare it as a terrorist supporting state, place sanctions on then, let them suffer that way.

              The other day a man killed his own child because she was a girl...nobody protested over that.

              To be honest, the region deserves it, the minute the west leaves Afghanistan, these same people will be flocking for refugee status, calling for aid and help, the minute anyone helps them, they become fanatical, to be honest, I really dont blame the vast majority of Afghans born abroad never wanting to settle back in Afghanistan.

              Its sadly still in the dark ages and really tries its best to be like Saudi Arabia.
              Learn how to debate. You are using strawman arguments in every post you intellectually delinquent idiot.

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              • #8
                I don't see any of this on the news at all. All they are barking about is Syria. They are about to get their own Syria in Afghanistan. How humiliating this is and would be if it spreads.

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                • #9
                  It is spreading, and keep in mind these protestors are mostly non-Pashtuns, so it is a major development.

                  Out goes the notion of entrenched ethnic divisions preventing Afghans from finding a common ground

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                  • #10
                    Koran desecration causes Afghanistan protests - YouTube

                    can someone make this video viewable here ?

                    I am unable to do it

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                    • #11
                      lol @ john allen. eat ****, guy.
                      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                      Sayyid Qutb

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                        When a Quran gets burnt because a suicide bomber blows himself up in a mosque nobody protests over that.

                        When a girls school gets blown up by Islamist Militants, nobody protests over that.

                        This is why that part of the world will remain in the dark ages, middle ages and will suffer in immense backwardness and poverty.

                        To be honest, the West should just rethink its policies, honestly, democracy will never work for backward people.

                        Instead, cut all aid to Pakistan, declare it as a terrorist supporting state, place sanctions on then, let them suffer that way.

                        The other day a man killed his own child because she was a girl...nobody protested over that.

                        To be honest, the region deserves it, the minute the west leaves Afghanistan, these same people will be flocking for refugee status, calling for aid and help, the minute anyone helps them, they become fanatical, to be honest, I really dont blame the vast majority of Afghans born abroad never wanting to settle back in Afghanistan.

                        Its sadly still in the dark ages and really tries its best to be like Saudi Arabia.
                        Exactly, and this is the point every anti- occupation, anti-war and none interventionalist has stressed to the likes of you for the past 10 years but Pashto matal waee che dah latoo yaran pa khabaro na pohegee. Those who are accustomed to getting their ass kicked do not understand verbal communication.

                        I feel sorry for Tom and Jerry scared to death because they burnt some books. I really do. What do these red necks know about the local culture, sensitivity, or beliefs? Nothing. If anyone is responsible is people like you who lead them on with their misguided cow boys adventures.

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                        • #13
                          Afghans boils over Koran desecration

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                          Reuters | Feb 22, 2012, 06.07AM IST






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                          BAGRAM, AFGHANISTAN: About 2,000 Afghans protested outside the main US military base in Afghanistan on Tuesday over a report that foreign soldiers improperly disposed of copies of the Koran. US helicopters fired flares to try to break up as many as 2,000 demonstrators who massed outside several gates to the base, chanting anti-foreigner slogans and throwing stones.

                          Roshna Khalid, the provincial governor's spokeswoman, said copies of the Muslim holy book had been burnt inside Bagram airbase, an hour's drive north of the capital Kabul, citing accounts from local labourers.

                          "The labourers normally take the garbage outside and they found the remains of Korans" Khalid said. Nato's top general in Afghanistan attempted to contain fury over the incident, which could be a public relations disaster for the US military as it tries to pacify the country ahead of the withdrawal of foreign combat troops in 2014.

                          "When we learned of these actions, we immediately intervened and stopped them. The materials recovered will be properly handled by appropriate religious authorities," said general John Allen, head of the International Security Assistance Force ( ISAF). "This was NOT intentional in any way." Reuters reporters said there were about 2,000 protesters.

                          "We Afghans don't want these Christians and infidels, they are the enemy of our soil, our honour and our Koran," said Haji Shirin, a protester. "I urge all Muslims to sacrifice themselves in order to pull out these troops from this soil."

                          Bagram also houses a prison for Afghans detained by US forces. The centre has caused resentment among Afghans because of reports of torture and ill-treatment of suspected Taliban prisoners, with president Hamid Karzai demanding the transfer of prisoners to Afghan security.

                          Winning the hearts and minds of Afghans is critical to US efforts to defeating the Taliban but critics say Western forces often fail to grasp Afghanistan's religious and cultural sensitivities.

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                          • #14
                            the army are doing this on purpose because they are leaving now anyway. how come all of a sudden people are getting pissed on, soldiers are raping kids, qurans being burnt.
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                            *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                            Originally posted by Karachi
                            like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                            • #15
                              Afghans begin 2nd day protest at Koran burning



                              Afghans begin 2nd day protest at Koran burning
                              By REUTERS
                              22/02/2012
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                              HUDKHIL - Hundreds of Afghan protesters threw stones at police on Wednesday and security forces fired shots in the air in a second day of demonstrations after copies of the Koran, Islam's most holy book, were burned at a major NATO airbase.

                              Protesters shouted "Death to America!" and "Death to (President Hamid) Karzai" in demonstrations on the outskirts of the Afghan capital Kabul, while separate protests were also underway in the eastern city of Jalalabad, Reuters witnesses said.

                              As many as 2,000 Afghans on Tuesday massed outside several gates to Bagram Airbase, the main centre for NATO-led forces just north of Kabul, after local labourers found charred remains of copies of the Koran as they collected rubbish, prompting an apology from the White House and NATO.

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