Commie War Criminal on the Loose in Germany

[Ghundal]

So why are these communists in the West? Why aren't they living in North Korea?

It's so funny how they all rallied around Kharzai, and now the he is the biggest loser, a nobody who arrived to late on the dictator scene

I mean Hosni Mubarak is in jail and on trial haha

Gilani and Zardari are being charged with contempt


What did this retard failure think?

[abassinafghan]

@ goe

well just because people call them self one thing , besides no one called him self a communist in afg , it doesnt mean that they are convinced about it or even follow it ...

the same question could be also asked to all so called " salafis " or " wahabis ".

dont take peoples words for granted ...

you would be suprised how many people shifted from being commie to nationalist to talib to democrat and now back to talib ^^ they are the worest of all ...

[Catya Sher]

Re Ghundal question.

It's a good one, because it exposes the fact there has been massive
infiltration of Soviet - Communist - LEFTIST - ideas into all walks of life
in America and even more so in Europe.

So a lot of these officials, academics, diplomats even -
are quietly sympathetic to the left. Not all ideas, nor outright
proponents of Soviet style Communism.
But maybe sympathetic enough to shelter those who contributed to the
Communist regime in Kabul, about which they would likely know
VERY little.
But if they hear whinings from such types like this war criminal that "Taliban" are
after him, this type of Westerner will invite them in at the drop of a hat.

So it's a big shame, but this is how it is in Western countries.

Socialism is "in" ; traditional religion is "out" - ridiculed in favor
of leftist-based political and social agendas.

[MostafaM]

I don´t understand your argumentations.

For a person to be persecuted, someone has to go to the police, report that person and then an investigation will be pursued by a public attorney. That´s how constitutional states function.

So far many of these criminals lived here in Germany or other European countries without being bothered because their victims are dead, the families of those victims didn´t know anything about who had killed their loved ones and when it had happened.

The other problem is that these guys mostly have changed their names when they entered Europe.

There are alot of "mujahedin" criminals here, too. There are alot of Jamiat criminals in Canada and alot of Hisb-e Islami field commanders went to England.
Zardad was imprisoned some years ago, although he lived under a wrong name in the UK.

I don´t see any show trials here.

The guys who have been imprisoned are big time Khadists who have tortured and killed alot of people. Some of their victims made it out. Those victims have told the names of disappeared people, their inmates to the public attorneys here, and those attorneys made long journeys to Afghanistan to interview victims families etc. or people were found and brought to the German Embassy in Kabul to get interviewed.

And for the question about the criminals of today:

the NATO countries need those warlords and criminals; they can´t persecute them so far. Simple as that. That process has to be postponed.
Or some Afghans have to go and denounce them.
Dostum was in Berlin some weeks ago, did any Afghan here care?
Not at all.
We have become a lethargic people.

[MostafaM]

The other point is: many low and mid-level Khalqis and Parchamis were absorbed into the factions fighting to power in Kabul during the early 90ies.

After 2001 many of those employees of the interior ministry who were Khalqis were brought back to their positions because the interior ministry under Gulabzoy was the only functioning ministry during the 80ies and early 90ies.

Many of those former guys in Khad-e Nezami and Interior Ministry are back on duty.

[abassinafghan]

hahahahah


the point is this , what kind of man you have to be if you ask the same people who torture now ,who kidnapp now who kill now , to take on of the tortures of the past .

what kind of justice is this ???

or does this things today dont happen .


you know if you say that your fahter was a follower of sholae doata , a sholai , a maoist , well than he was not inocent but had some intentions


and we see who is sitting today to the left and to the right of the americans and especially of the germans , i guess sholaian are fighting the americans right .


mostafa stop pointing to the crimes that others commited 20+ years ago ,

just to distract from your own crimes .!!!!!!



and if some really killed any of your familiy members and you are sure he did , why do you need american or german support for punishing them ???

if you are a man you would take care of it self ......

[MostafaM]

hahahahah


the point is this , what kind of man you have to be if you ask the same people who torture now ,who kidnapp now who kill now , to take on of the tortures of the past .

what kind of justice is this ???

or does this things today dont happen .


you know if you say that your fahter was a follower of sholae doata , a sholai , a maoist , well than he was not inocent but had some intentions


and we see who is sitting today to the left and to the right of the americans and especially of the germans , i guess sholaian are fighting the americans right .


mostafa stop pointing to the crimes that others commited 20+ years ago ,

just to distract from your own crimes .!!!!!!



and if some really killed any of your familiy members and you are sure he did , why do you need american or german support for punishing them ???

if you are a man you would take care of it self ......

I don´t understand your points.

1. I am not asking anyone to do anything.
If criminals live here under the jurisdiction of their law and if people report them, actions will be taken.

2. Who said my father was a follower of Shola-e Toada? And what is Shola-e Toada? I guess, you mean Shola-e Jawed.
I have never said that. My father has never been in any political party, left or right.

3. You mean, I should go and shoot a guy on the streets of Germany? haha

Conclusion:
You don´t make sense at all.
Family members were killed during combat operations in the south but that´s war. I have lost a distant cousin in prison. Everyone else who got into prison made it out because of relationships.
You don´t have to take cheap shots with absolute 0% unerstanding of what I am saying here at all.

[Catya Sher]

By the way, where IS the Shola-i-Jawaid today ?
Sk said one time that they turned into the Feminists - may have been
meant as a joke. But probably has SOME truth.

I mean we never hear of them aiding the Taliban. Seems if they were REAL
Maoists they would hate a foreign occupation MORE than Taliban [and ALL Afghans of every ethnic group, some just hide their feelings more than
Pashtuns...but no one likes American occupation, even those who are benefiting from it]

So where DID they go? Same? to asylum in Scandinavia or former East Germany?

I thought Mostafa's comments were quite helpful on Khalqis back into
current system, occupying same offices they used to under Gulabzoy.
I would like to hear more about that. Or go interview them to find out
their REAL feelings throughout this entire 30 years.

Were they faking working for Russians? Are they lackluster working for 'nato' ?

If they have any sense, they would PRETEND but secretly pass info to resistance movement !!! That's what I would do if i were they ....

[Zurmati_Zmaray]

Interesting..how can he shoot people in 1988 when Pol-i-Charki was closed 86?

Its also Interesting how the REAL AFGHAN TALIBAN think about Najibullah khudai di uabakhi and how they call him

TALIBAN LEADER SAYS THAT PAKISTAN KILLED DR NAJIB AHMADZAI - YouTube

[Catya Sher]

^ I recognize that mullah. We already know him
on here.
He is some slithery character who is letting himself
be interviewed as supposedly a Taliban.
But is probably somebody else.
He doesn't have the honesty in his eyes to be a Taliban
member.
He looks crooked, in short.

So don't take ANYTHING he says as truth.

[Zurmati_Zmaray]

^ I recognize that mullah. We already know him
on here.
He is some slithery character who is letting himself
be interviewed as supposedly a Taliban.
But is probably somebody else.
He doesn't have the honesty in his eyes to be a Taliban
member.
He looks crooked, in short.

So don't take ANYTHING he says as truth.

Maybe you are right, I dont know what the Mullah did and what not...But I know, before Kabul was taken by Taliban....theire Commandant (Pashtuafghan) was shoot from behind and replaced..by someone else I forgott his name....but his replacement was an Haqqanifighter, with connections to pakistan...and he ordered to catch Najibullah...and we know, why he was killled...as I know he didnt sign the Durrandcontract and he didnt gave them the treasure of our Nationalmuseum...I have some talibs in my family too, and they also say that they didnt want to kill him, it was Pakistan...they also speak in honour of him...not because Najibullah was an president, just because he was an brave man

[abassinafghan]

lol

all afghan embassies are full of sholaian , france is full of them , and they are most tajik nationalists or let us say facists , lost total connection with religion culutre and home ...



but by the way najib was not killed because he commited so much crimes but ,

actually because who do you think would be sitting in ark there if not kharazi ???

and trust me he and his fellows are more capable than kharzai ....

taliban didnt won this war political because they are the safer of the afghan
nation , but because their adversaries are incapable and stupid .!!!


people think 3 steps ahead as a full time job ...

[Zurmati_Zmaray]

You are totally right, with that what you say about the Tajik Nationalists and theire Support by the French Gouverment. In fact...if Najibullah hasnt been killed by the Pakistangouverment because he didnt conqured himself...I think too that he would be still our President...but in Fact I must say too...that 89 or 88 around the tribes began to cooperate in Form of Loya Jirga ect. I think Najibullah would be still president...he would have the same gouverment like karzai, but in Change that the Pakistanitaliban never has been a method to spread in Afghanistan or Alqaida. That would mean, no American, No Bin Laden, No ISAF....we saw in the past, that Najibullah began to involve the people from the Atraf (valleys like Paktia ect) into the Gouverment too he take care of theire lifestyle too....he prepared a way for an Afghanlifestyle in Atraf and in the Citys...but Independet from other Countries....We cant say 100 % how Afghanistan would look like today...that only knows Khuday Pak...

lol

all afghan embassies are full of sholaian , france is full of them , and they are most tajik nationalists or let us say facists , lost total connection with religion culutre and home ...



but by the way najib was not killed because he commited so much crimes but ,

actually because who do you think would be sitting in ark there if not kharazi ???

and trust me he and his fellows are more capable than kharzai ....

taliban didnt won this war political because they are the safer of the afghan
nation , but because their adversaries are incapable and stupid .!!!


people think 3 steps ahead as a full time job ...