New Video : US Marines peeing on dead Afghans

[faye]

do lets not believe anyone or anything . ok, khushal? like how could hazaras possibly know anything about their own personal experiences? what a ridiculous thing for me to assume, right?
for one who argues for pages with people on pf, as though you are the only one who knows the truth of matters, you must remember that your knowledge is also mainly from what you have read.
we have many hazara refugees here in australia and i have seen them talk of their experiences and have read about their experiences.
for you to make the above comment as though, all hazaras must be lying is racist, isn't it?

[khushal]

do lets not believe anyone or anything . ok, khushal? like how could hazaras possibly know anything about their own personal experiences? what a ridiculous thing for me to assume, right?
for one who argues for pages with people on pf, as though you are the only one who knows the truth of matters, you must remember that your knowledge is also mainly from what you have read.
we have many hazara refugees here in australia and i have seen them talk of their experiences and have read about their experiences.
for you to make the above comment as though, all hazaras must be lying is racist, isn't it?

Im not sayin the hazaras are lieing. What Im saying is what you said originally said and that is we must get both sides of the story. If some one comes up to me and says Faye robbed me, I cant automatically believe the person, I must also get Faye's side of the story. Thats why if you go to the hazaras website, ofcourse they are going to have negative propaganda about the Taliban, it is their enemy and the same with the Taliban, they are going to have stories about what the Hazaras did to them.

but the facts are that the majority of the mass graves found in the north were of pashtun tribesmen.

So I again ask you bring us the indepedent sources of this rape accusation that you brought up or be quiet.

[Nora]

OMG
i wish i didnt see that

[khushal]

i don't think anyone wakes up one day and decides they want to try urinating over a human's dead body for a change. it all comes from a great amount of blaming anger and hatred for each other which most of you well educated members have in yourselves for each other. i am more than sure that provided with the opportunity, more than a dozen of you would do just the same to the other half.
this **** will not end unless we stop blaming it on rednecks and brownnecks. this is a crime against humanity which is an embarrassment to necks of all kind. what these marines did to the dead bodies does not justify what happened to hazaras and just because taliban are no less when it comes to their brutality doesn't mean that their bodies should be treated with such disrespect specially when they are dead. how sad is it that we can't pause to think and remind ourselves of what it is that we are all fighting with each other over and if it's worth pissing over each other for. do we want to attain whatever it is at this cost?

Actually this is common in America. White police officers urinate on black and native suspects they apprehend all the time. just google it. you will find hundreds of cases all over.

[faye]

Im not sayin the hazaras are lieing. What Im saying is what you said originally said and that is we must get both sides of the story. If some one comes up to me and says Faye robbed me, I cant automatically believe the person, I must also get Faye's side of the story. Thats why if you go to the hazaras website, ofcourse they are going to have negative propaganda about the Taliban, it is their enemy and the same with the Taliban, they are going to have stories about what the Hazaras did to them.

but the facts are that the majority of the mass graves found in the north were of pashtun tribesmen.

So I again ask you bring us the indepedent sources of this rape accusation that you brought up or be quiet.

so, you are willing to believe everyone but the hazaras.
now, when i am curious about something on the forum, i do some research to look into the subject. it is quite easy khushal. type in google and you are on your way. now, i am 63 and have the capacity to do this, tell me, why are you youngsters having difficulty with doing this? is it perhaps that you don't want to know?
and no, i will not be quiet, so up yours

[khushal]

so, you are willing to believe everyone but the hazaras.
now, when i am curious about something on the forum, i do some research to look into the subject. it is quite easy khushal. type in google and you are on your way. now, i am 63 and have the capacity to do this, tell me, why are you youngsters having difficulty with doing this? is it perhaps that you don't want to know?
and no, i will not be quiet, so up yours

thats not lady like especially for a 63 yr old. Dont blame me for correcting your false assumptions.

Im trying to find an independent source and I can not so if you are accusing then provide us the evidence otherwise shut the hell up.

[faye]

thats not lady like especially for a 63 yr old. Dont blame me for correcting your false assumptions.

Im trying to find an independent source and I can not so if you are accusing then provide us the evidence otherwise shut the hell up.

i am not a lady, i am a woman.
what do you mean by independent? someone who wasn't actually there and had the experience of being abused, or seeing their relatives assassinated or raped or abused?
i don't cow tow to male chauvinists. you should have realised that by now

[khushal]

i am not a lady, i am a woman.
what do you mean by independent? someone who wasn't actually there and had the experience of being abused, or seeing their relatives assassinated or raped or abused?
i don't cow tow to male chauvinists. you should have realised that by now

independent meaning unbiased for example.

http://www.rawa.org/pushtun.htm

[faye]

actually khushal, i am amazed at your ignorance. i have known about this for years and the un, were looking into mass graves of hazaras, victims of the taliban, in, at least, 2002.
are you one of those that believe the taliban are angelic beings?

[khushal]

actually khushal, i am amazed at your ignorance. i have known about this for years and the un, were looking into mass graves of hazaras, victims of the taliban, in, at least, 2002.
are you one of those that believe the taliban are angelic beings?

Stop the insanity. Dont worry about what I beleive and it does not matter.

You cant provide the sources to back your accusations because there is none.

I rest my case.

[faye]

perhaps you and ghundal can buy a whole brain and have half each.

[Manzareh]

Ok Faye even if what your saying is true then we still dont see 4 hazara men peeing on Talibans (so called) we see 4 white males, is that your beef here? - why try to stick up or justify something that cannot be justified, its wrong to piss on anyone. simple

besides i dont think the Talibans would piss on dead corpses, its against their code to disrespect alive prisoners let alone dead bodies.

[Ghundal]

Pashtuns do not disrespect women in any way, especially the religious ones.

faye, the Taliban did kill Hazara men at Mazar-I-Sharif, but they did not attack women/girls or children. There is no documentation at all that states this. Some of these men were part of Northern Alliance militias, and some were not.

Tajiks, Uzbeks, and Hazaras who made up the Northern Alliance actually committed many crimes against Pashtuns in the North, and effectively chased many out.

These crimes were documented by the UN too.

And tying back to what Manzareh said, why are you trying to justify this ?

[faye]

i responded to an article about taliban response which you may not have noticed.
i am not trying to justify this act. somewhere, on one of the threads about it, i classified it as a crime. what i was saying is, that i have read reports that claim that taliban have been accused of mistreating the dead, by hazaras. apparently all hazaras are liars though, so we can't take their word for anything. probably because they are shias, who we all know are the lowlifes of the muslim world, right?

[faye]

according to khushal we can't trust the word of hazaras or the taliban so we need to go to an independent source.
sounds as though the afghans have created a lot of liars, lol.
if i want to know about islam, is an indepentant source to find out about it, a scientologist, an athiest, the parents of a victim of the bali bombing?
if i want to know about african slavery in america and what that was like do i go and ask a chinaman in china or slaves?
so any claims from pashtuns about having to leave afghanistan due to wars, should i believe them or look for an independent source?