Racists exposed

[al-arab]

Wa alaykum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa baraktuhu

To all brothers and sisters:

First of all this is not a pleasant matter but since I feel this is my duty as an Muslim firstly and then as an Arab to expose hypocrite people who tell lies about my people and generalize a whole race of 350 million Arabs based on some experience they have had with misguided Arabs in UAE and Qatar (where Arabs only only form 20 percent of the population" and cry about Arab racism when they themselves are not any better than those few misguided Gulf Arabs (that only represent 3-5 percent of all Arabs BTW).

And not only racism against Arabs but also racism against Afghan Pashtuns from the same users who were involved in todays thread about Arabs and who have been involved on many occasions. Remember this is only quotes taken from two threads I could have used more examples of their racism and hypocrisy.

For proof of hatred towards Pashtuns see this thread: (Karachi and Luffy)

http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...45/index2.html

Some quotes:

"Pakistan would never beg afghanis ok, we are like 200 times powerful then you, you are like ants infront of us, the only reason we care about stuff happening on our western borders is because we are allowing too many afghans too roam in to our country for free, and the only thing you guys bring is either drugs or terrorism and this is what has destroying our country. I think its time we get rid of every single afghan living in pakistan, because you eat from out plate, but then you backstab us by doing terrorism and spreading drugs in our country." (Karachi)

"Visa should be must for all Afghans in pakistan. Because ISI has caught many afghan jasoos in pakhtunkhwa and some are involved in bomb blasts. If possible afghans should be prohibited from doing businesses in pakistan, as our economic condition is not stable. 30 years are enough, it is time to go back to your country my dear afghans." (Luffy)

"Personally i dont mind indians anymore, they might be our enemy on paper but i think they are not that bad, unfortunatly our government/army is just plain stupid to understand this, however our real enemy is (afghanistan) the hate you afghans have for pakistan is much much higher then the hate indians have for pakistan." (Karachi)

(I wonder why Karachi does not have a problem with Indians since he himself is an Muhajir from New Delhi (Indian Muslim and immigrant to Pakistan)

"go check the list of so called famous hindustanis i provided earlier, many of pakistan's great artist are so called "hindustanis" even the famous Nazia/zoheb hassan, which every one loves in pakistan, even Musharaff who was loved by many pakistanis earlier, was so called hindustani. again bengali you know nothing about pakistan, before insulting pakistanis look at yourself first, no body in south asia likes you, even indians hate you because you guys are polluting their country by pouring in millions, the best thing that ever happend to pakistan was to get rid of you. God knows why our country was even one before, you are so different that its not even funny, even indians make fun of you every time"

(Karachis reply to brother Bengal-Tiger and clear racism towards Bengali people)

"sorry but i dont believe this for a minute, trusting afghans was the biggest mistake pakistan ever made, it has totally ruined our country. Hopefully pakistanis will soon realise this and stop blaming every little problem on india, they are not seeing the real truth, real problem is coming from our western border, afghans can never be trusted, not on a political level and not on a personal level" (Karachi)

For proof of hatred towards Arabs see this thread: (Soldat-Amir, Karachi, Luffy and NokiaWnW)

http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...74/index7.html

Some quotes:

"HAHAHAHA You filthy terrorist! Take your dreams to your desert you came from, you bedouine savage." (NokiaWnW)

"Pakistanis were ruled by goras what excuse arabs have? Beside you are totally wrong. You dont live in pakistan so you are unable to see the difference. I have been to islamabad, pindi, lahore, multan etc and to arab countries...i have tested them both,...gulf arabs are pure racist and are very useless good for nothing people." (Luffy)

"But saudis/gulf arabs is who I find to be very hypocritical and this is why I always criticize them on this forum, I have never criticized any other arabs, except gulf arabs

^ and even among them I agree there might be some nice people, but their over all impression is not nice at all world wide." (Karachi)

"Arabs like to post themselves as heroes we have tasted their presence in Pakhtunkhwa and Afghanistan with suicide bombing, public executions and their savagery.

I don't want to argue more my stance is quite clear. You did the same in Balkans too but Bosnians were smart and booted the Arabs out quickly before they settled and started to spread their retarded ways." (Soldat-Amir)

"When the Northern Alliance Kabul the Afghan people expressed their love for the Arabs by chopping them into pieces and shuffing dollars into their mouths. Only the sell out Pashtuns would protect and shelter a fugitive and look what happened. Every Country hates Pashtuns due to their association with the backward barbaric and savages of the Arab world.

If you love those "Afghan Arabs" so much then go and shelter them in your own Arab countries, go fight Israel, stop blowing ur self in Afghanistan." (Soldat-Amir)

"also I have lived in saudi for close to 15 years, I know what I am talking about, and in fact it is a known fact for many people who have lived in the gulf or have come in contact with the locals there, some are nice yes, but most are just hypocritical and racist who think they are better than others." (Karachi)

"bring that qoute please, it's very easy to lie, spread wrong information and deceive people. you are very good at doing this" (Karachi)

A quote of Karachi as a response to my claim of him being an racist towards Pashtuns. (He claimed through the whole discussion that he never has been although he was caught empty handed and exposed by brother Graveyardofempires less than two weeks ago)


Brothers and sisters those are the same people who claim that Arabs are racists (based on their experiences with few Gulf Arabs in Qatar and UAE (despite Arabs only being an minority (20 percent) in both countries) and afterwards generalize a race of 350 million people but behave as racist themselves!

Those people (I am referring to Karachi here) also claim that they never are racists. This thread will, Insha'Allah forever be a proof of their lies in future discussions.

[badmash_khel]

Some people need to man up and apologize for their behaviour. The posts by Nokia are dispecable. He should be warned and his posts reported for inciting racial hatred. There is no place for racism in Islam and civilized society. We might have disagreements but it gives no one the right to paint a whole nation with the same brush. Always remember "what goes around comes around". Karma's a bitch

[tor_khan]

Al Arab ... let's not fall into a trap of going after people. People said what they needed to say in the split thread entitled 'Arabs'. After several remarks that were teetering on the edge of racism, I decided to close the thread. One poster added an inappropriate video that was pulled and an openly hostile remark against Arabs resulted in an infraction against said person.

Making a list of what people may have said in the past is not helpful and will likely lead to posts that progressively escalate in their attempt to inflame. This thread will remain open for now, but I have reservations regarding what might be achieved. I DO NOT want to jump into every thread and close it as people need their say, but understand that I speak from experience.

My few cents worth.

[faye]

now ahab, since you obviously have so much time on your hands, whilst the shia and sunni are tearing each others heads off around the world, go through the forum and deliver for us, the racist quotes directed towards pakistan and different tribes of afghanistan. i think you will be busy, lol.
even better. go into the real world and start a friendship group for shia and sunni people.

[faye]

if you are going to expose racists. expose ALL the racists al-arab. or are you just being racist yourself by only selecting those you have a beef with?

[Prince_Pukhtun]

the radicalisation of pashtuns because of arabs isnt a lie though? there is a hint of truth to it

they tell other peoples kids to cause jihad yet their own kids are living in luxury in their own homelands.


this isnt racist its infact just the truth




afghans

dont see why people complain if an afghan enters peshawer or khyber, they have right over it as much as any pashtun in pakistan does.same blood same people for thousdands of years, 64 years apart by no means changes any of it lol

[Michin Khel]

I never said iraqis, jordanians, syrians, libiyans etc are racist people, infact they are nice people. I have spent few years in libiya, they are very much like pashtuns and are very honourable and non-racist people.
But sorry i do not have same opinion about gulf arabs. You might say that if those expats have complaints from arabs then they should go back to their countries...but westren countries dont tell desis to go away from their countries. Westren people are very humane and saints compare to illiterate-like gulf arabs...i believe its wrong to assume that americans are most racist people, world should shift its attention towards gulf arabs. I know few pakistanis who were first in qatar and are now in US or canada....they how told me how non-muslim whites of those countries are much better and civilized than racist arrogant arabs of gulf.

[Prince_Pukhtun]

al arab i am on about those people who tell pashtun kids to commit attrocities yet their own kids are not involved in any of this. its hypocrisy of the heighest level

im not anti arab
i have arab friends
infact very good friends...

[faye]

Faye:

I have time because I am in Europe visiting distant family. I slept all the time during the flight so I cannot sleep and soon it is also prayer time. Your idea is good but I am afraid that those organizations already exists (I know they do) and that it is ultimately the politicians who decide. Unfortunately the puppet government of Al-Maliki have not shown they are capable of dealing with it correctly and civilians suffer as a result.

No, I only expose those who claim they are not racists but in fact are.

But I am out of this thread. The evidence speak for itself.

for myself, having been a member of the forum for more than a year, most raging insults are a back and forth situation, where sometimes people lose their cool.
according to the 40 hadiths i read on this forum last night and from previous research, there are major breeches by many members and even yourself, to the rules laid out for muslims.

[badmash_khel]

All this arabs did this to us and uzbeks did this to us is really getting boring. If pashtuns really wanted to kick out those arabs from their land, they easily could. Most of those arabs who fight are not as rich as osama and many left their families to fight for what they believe. There is no doubt that there have always been corrupt ones among them which is the case with any group or nation. there have been many pashtuns bought with money to work for the devil but there have also been sincere people. things are not black and white. its alot more complicated than just making blanket statements. Those who say pashtun are forced to do things are actually insulting pashtuns because they are saying we can't make our own decisions. If we really wanted to get rid of these people we could have joined hands with the kufar and kicked them out but thats not the case. At the same time it can't be ignored that some elements were used for the interests of foreigners but that doesn't delegetimize the resistance.

[Karachi]

not that thread again, that has been used like 5 times already by you and GOE, that is your evidence?. also in that thread where did i say that pashtuns should be bombed? clearly you lied when you said that. I was talking about that when I said bring evidence where i made that qoute.

these 3 qoutes were made when there was a lot of direct racism against pakistanis here, they were out of reaction of some people's comments. I didnt say any thing against pashtuns as a whole. any one can see this.

all these qoutes were out of reaction anyways, i wont say such things for no reason. reactions can often be heated, and this is exactly what it was

[Michin Khel]

My comment was not out of heated reaction. I still of opinion that Afghan immigrants should return back to their country. I am not talking about those who are properly registered.
Those who are saying that it is against pashtunwali to not allow afghans roaming freely in pakhtunkhwa, should first learn pashto/pashtunwali. In pashtun society an outsider (non-pashtun or a pashtun of another tribe) has to obey and live under locals...they have to have respect for local laws and customs otherwise they would be expelled....this has happened many times in tribal areas that all afghans were asked to leave when many of them were found in unwanted activities...
This happened in my village, some afghan boys beat up a local boy and local quaom asked afghan families to leave the village within three days(this was for best as that boy and his brothers were intending of shooting them)...the same would happen with any outsider belonging to other tribe of khyber pakhtunkhwa...so dont present same blood arguement...some Afghans dont know to live under some people due to their fierce indepandent nature and often display their "independant" behaviour which results in unpleasant incidents...those afghans who assimilated themeselves into locals are now permenantly settled in pakhtunkhwa...there are lot of khostwals in and around naurang who are now having domiciles of lakki marwat, speaks marwat dialect, introduce themselves as marwats and have establish successful business....no one would ask them to leave as they are now part of lakki marwat.

[Soldat_Amir]

Al Arab you once said Pashtuns are poor and cheap and will be subjects in the future Arab global empire(Wishful thinking).

Talk about Racism eh.

You came to our lands mocked our version of Islam which was a indigenous one, you mocked our leaders, killed our people and enslaved our masses through the doctrine of Wahabism.


Call me a racist or not but the Pashtun is a savage when it comes to treating their own people. Both Lar o Bar Pakhtun work against eachother, stupid tribalism, stupid greed and selfish people who would sell out on their own people for money of Uzbeks and Arabs and Punjabis.

This is why Pashtuns need a iron fist Stalin figure who will civilise the society by force the same way Stalin modernised Russia with the slogan "no mercy for traitors"

Warlords should be eradicated, Taliban should be stamped on and anyone challenging the writ of the government should be squashed.

If we do not rapidly progress or become a nation by drastic measures we will remain as a tribal society where by Afridis control khyber pass, Wazirs and Maseeds the Wana pass, Durranis the Kandahar Pass, the Gandapur DI Khan Pass etc etc etc

We should destroy tribalism and dismantle the tribal system, and replace it with a modern developed organise political system, no more village Mullahs dictating how women should dress, we should clean our roads, build broken homes, help our poor ones, convert all these 100000s of mosques and madrassahs into sheltering homes for poor Pashtuns/Afghans, and keep it to a few Mosques and Madrassahs.

If we continue to live a life of chewing Naswar, sitting on the rug and counting a tasbee praying Allah will some how drop us with development packages then we will go no where at all.

[Afghanistan2010]

I know now why this Karachi is naming himself here Karachi,

he has watched that Indian movie,Terre Bin Laden.....

Tere Bin Laden - Comedy Scene - YouTube

[Afghanistan2010]

Al Arab you once said Pashtuns are poor and cheap and will be subjects in the future Arab global empire(Wishful thinking).

why do you feel offend?

you are nonpashtun.