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  • #31
    Originally posted by NokiaWnW View Post
    Mullah Omar, a Paki general, the Taliban a Pashtun nationalistic movement ... do you see the difference? If today ''Mulah Omar'' would tell his commanders to accept Pakistan or give parts of Afg to Pakistan, would the Taliban do it? Mullah Omar is just a spiritual* leader for them, nothing more. Zaheef self had never seen Mullah Omar.. or provide a source where he states he drank with the blind guy a cup tea!
    Your contradicting yourself. First you say he does not exist than you claim he is a spiratual leader.

    Are you drunk?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by khushal View Post
      Your contradicting yourself. First you say he does not exist than you claim he is a spiratual leader.

      Are you drunk?

      i guess so,its new year hahahaha
      High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by khushal View Post
        Your contradicting yourself. First you say he does not exist than you claim he is a spiratual leader.

        Are you drunk?
        its new year bro

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        • #34
          Originally posted by khushal View Post
          Your contradicting yourself. First you say he does not exist than you claim he is a spiratual leader.

          Are you drunk?
          He is your Paki general (maybe Hamid Gul, the hypocrite muslim fundamentalist?) and spiritual leader. Mullah Omar as a ''Pashtun'' does not exists.... otherwise all his ministers and commanders wouldn´t say they have not seen him... Pakis are to smart for you guys. They make you dance the way they want and you will not realize it ... look to your past.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by NokiaWnW View Post
            He is your Paki general (maybe Hamid Gul, the hypocrite muslim fundamentalist?) and spiritual leader. Mullah Omar as a ''Pashtun'' does not exists.... otherwise all his ministers and commanders wouldn´t say they have not seen him... Pakis are to smart for you guys. They make you dance the way they want and you will not realize it ... look to your past.
            you should start reading book instead of wasting time drinking.

            here is your source. Zaeef was with M.O. from the beginning, he claims to have witnessed when M.O. lost his eye.

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/b...ef-review.html
            As a teenage refugee from the Soviet invasion, he joined the mujahideen, and a few years later was fighting alongside Mullah Omar when the future Taliban leader lost an eye.

            So its your turn, give me a source to back up your claim, or do you just beleive what other drunks say around you.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by khushal View Post
              you should start reading book instead of wasting time drinking.

              here is your source. Zaeef was with M.O. from the beginning, he claims to have witnessed when M.O. lost his eye.


              As a teenage refugee from the Soviet invasion, he joined the mujahideen, and a few years later was fighting alongside Mullah Omar when the future Taliban leader lost an eye.

              So its your turn, give me a source to back up your claim, or do you just beleive what other drunks say around you.
              Pleeeeeeease, provide us from first-hand informations... not any introduction of his book, pleeeeeeeeease! Provide us with the paragraph of his book. Why the coward does not speak in radio, TV or show himself like Bin Laden did.... where is the problem for him? ...where is his voice, some tapes... ? There is nothing because he has a Pakistani slang? lol Or does he believe he is a new messiah? hahaha This Paki will also get killed, either by US or by his own generals in the ISI. ISI killed many Paki generals... I would not excpect anything else.
              Last edited by Guest; 12-31-2011, 07:48 PM.

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              • #37
                Why don't you provide us that the ameer does not exists,why does you not proof with first hand information of ISI leaders being behinde the islamic emirate , why does not you bring to us all leaders of taliban to declare themselves ISI agents.

                Once some paki pashtun said , Taliban are ISI agents , the people were drinking tea and they all stopped drinking tea they were before cutting him into pieces and raping his paki ass,but because he was guest , they just insult him and his knowledge.
                High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by NokiaWnW View Post
                  Zaeef is self part of that mashinery, part of this propaganda. Where is the difference between him and any other Taliban wannabe Jihadists? ... since you read that book, can you please scan the page of the book where he writes about Mullah Omar?
                  sorry cant scan, no access to tech. but when i can will do. meanwhile, there are detailed accounts by zaeef where a leader of the taliban 1.0 is sought and eventually M.O. is asked to be their chief, and M.O. reluctantly accepts on the condition that all present at that meeting swear by the quran to follow M.O.s command to fight the corrupt groups that were rampaging from kandahar to border at spin boldak. later zaeef recollects various meeting with M.O. for advice and actions required of taliban 1.0 to rid of corrupt groups. and once taliban becore the leaders of I.E.of A. zaeef recollects furhter meetings with M.O. for appointments to various government posts, in Herat, Kabul and lastly in Islamabad.

                  as a biography, I accept the zaeef's staements re M.O. and his existence, of course I haven't seen M.O. with my own eyes, for that matter I haven't seen many things with my own eyes but are accepted as real. I refer to taliban as taliban 1.0, like a proto-taliban, the rise of talibs and young mullas against the brutality of rogue commanders.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by NokiaWnW View Post
                    Pleeeeeeease, provide us from first-hand informations... not any introduction of his book, pleeeeeeeeease! Provide us with the paragraph of his book. Why the coward does not speak in radio, TV or show himself like Bin Laden did.... where is the problem for him? ...where is his voice, some tapes... ? There is nothing because he has a Pakistani slang? lol Or does he believe he is a new messiah? hahaha This Paki will also get killed, either by US or by his own generals in the ISI. ISI killed many Paki generals... I would not excpect anything else.
                    There is a famous video of Mullah Omar when he was given the Cloak of the Prophet in Kandahar. If he wasn't real and just the work of the Pakistani ISI fiction it will be odd that no one from his foes ever made such a claim. On the contrary most testify to his existence by their statements acknowledging him as the leader of the Taliban including Karzai who initially joined them but later left the movement after the assassination of his father.


                    Mullah Omar interview with BBC

                    BBC Interview With Mullah Mohammad Omar Mujahid (November 2001).wmv - YouTube

                    transcript#

                    BBC News | SOUTH ASIA | Interview with Mullah Omar - transcript



                    Reason why Mullah Omar doesn't have any footage/pictures is because he believes that it will lead to idolizing him (worship - he is Amir-Ul-Mumineen), forbidden because his school of thought believes an actual image captures the soul, and security. This is why Osama was located, and Mullah Omar can be living right next door to you.

                    And it's not the first time. The British hunted for Faqir-e-Ipi for long not knowing what he looked like. Same thing with Baitullah Maseed, they didn't know who he was till he gave that major face to face interview. Even though his face was not published to the masses, his ID was confirmed (the ISI had not clue what he looked like). He was killed there after.
                    Last edited by R3SISTANC3; 01-01-2012, 07:55 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by R3SISTANC3 View Post
                      There is a famous video of Mullah Omar when he was given the Cloak of the Prophet in Kandahar. If he wasn't real and just the work of the Pakistani ISI fiction it will be odd that no one from his foes ever made such a claim. On the contrary most testify to his existence by their statements acknowledging him as the leader of the Taliban including Karzai who initially joined them but later left the movement after the assassination of his father.


                      Mullah Omar interview with BBC

                      BBC Interview With Mullah Mohammad Omar Mujahid (November 2001).wmv - YouTube

                      transcript#

                      BBC News | SOUTH ASIA | Interview with Mullah Omar - transcript



                      Reason why Mullah Omar doesn't have any footage/pictures is because he believes that it will lead to idolizing him (worship - he is Amir-Ul-Mumineen), forbidden because his school of thought believes an actual image captures the soul, and security. This is why Osama was located, and Mullah Omar can be living right next door to you.

                      And it's not the first time. The British hunted for Faqir-e-Ipi for long not knowing what he looked like. Same thing with Baitullah Maseed, they didn't know who he was till he gave that major face to face interview. Even though his face was not published to the masses, his ID was confirmed (the ISI had not clue what he looked like). He was killed there after.
                      ISI/CIA/FBI production? The ISI had no clue what he looked like? Than search for ''Muallah Omar and ISI relationship'' you people are such laughable... youself do not know what is real and what is a myth... people like you kept Pashtuns backward and victimized all of us ... people with a very low intelligence can very easy get manipulated... and you are one of them. Otherwise Taliban or that mentality wouldn´t exist.

                      How many traitors we have? We have their the commis, the Taliban, the Karzai package, the so-called Islamic parties ... do we have at least one person as leader or a group that does not fit in that image? Look to the past and realize that we always were used by others and we never learned our lessons. Never! It´s better for you to free yourself from foreign slavery and become a normal human-beeing or at least move to Afghanistan you coward hypocrite and fight there ... but I guess you will not do that because you are to afraid to get killed the second you step on Afghan ground and in real you do not believe in Taliban. All these bias you ''support'' result out of anger, losing hope, beeing hurt etc. Youself have not then guts to go to Afghanistan and fight so you wish Pakis, Panjabis, Chechens, Arabs etc. to fight for you guys... hahaha silly people
                      Last edited by Guest; 01-01-2012, 10:18 AM.

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                      • #41
                        guiys forgive nokiawnw he is the same guy who comes here with different accounts talking non sense.

                        better nto waste time on someone who lives in denial and pushes lies a a pathological liar.

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