The ISI and the Taliban

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Interesting. These haramis focus on young boys of immature age like 13, 14, 15...in training centres they draw them pictures of gardens of jannat in their horrible painting skills...in the same year a big taliban leader from our area is killed by US attack..parents in our area are some what at ease now, as it was said about him that he had such magical oral skills that once a boy (of 14,15, 16 age) would listen to him, he would become ready to go to jihad. After that no matter how much their parents tried to stop them , they would'nt listen to them and there used to be one thing on their mind " za ba afghanistan ta jihad ju awo shaheed kezhu ba "..these things remind me of that ismaeli assasin hasan bin saba, a great fitna of islamic history.

Hmmm Luffy,

This tirade, coming from the son of a diplomat forces one to discuss the Pakistani heirarchy.

Generally, in Pakistan, you dont become a diplomat by merit. Most of the Pashtun areas are awash in nepotism going back about 70 or 80 years. Generally, you can trace a straight line from the corrupt politicians of today back to their British preferred ancestors.

It seems to me that your class is afraid of Islam and, especially afraid of political Islam. The reason? Because its the ultimate in top down destruction of a plutocracy.

The fact of the matter is that you guys urged these men, these Haqqanis, etc to fight the Russians, as was their duty according to the Holy Text they read. There is no debate about that whatsoever from any scholar, whether they are liberal or conservative.

Then, while you sent them to their deaths when America invaded... (because really, what is the difference between an American occupation or a Russian occupation?) you became upset because they saw the double game that he plutocrat class was playing.

You and Mr. Sherpao were all too happy to see them getting killed across the border... after all, it was only a group of people that were a potent radicalized threat to the Pakistani order that were dying... so it was great because you got to hit two birds with 1 stone: Indian interests and Jihadi interests cancelling eachother out!

Yet when they sort of smartened up and realized that you were giving their enemies the tanks that were killing them... they turned their anger on you.

So now, you decided to label them as molestors, anti Islamic, and recruiters of youth!

Yet, can you point out where in the scripture you are correct and where they are wrong in terms of turning their fire power on you?

If its about 15 year old boys taking up arms, then talk to your colleagues in Virginia.. after all, assymetric techniques are a response to assymetric war.

Basically, you created this mess by playing the double game. The supply lines make no reasonable sense while at the same time tacitly approving the Wazirs and Mehsuds to cross into Afghanistan.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

BarakzaiAbdali more videos to come soon "Inshallah".

Hopefully more will speak out at the Ikhwanis, especially those working in Hospitals in America that are supposed to treat patients but have other motives in mind such as keeping captives as slaves and stoning little girls to make them feel strong.

Please do send my video to your relatives on your wife's side in the ISI.

Lol, strength doesnt come from hoisting philosophies on people my comrade walker.

Remember, that was Najib that tried to do that... not me. After all, wasnt it you that said on this very site that we ought to beat the Pashtuns into submission for their own betterment???

Strength is defined as allowing the Afghan people the right to self determination.... whether it be shariah, jiggaloism, communism, karzaiism or whatever they so choose.

Not parasitizing the newest invading motif and professing hypocrasy (ie endorsing communism but joining democratic capitalists when it suited you).

Stones can but break a few bones.... but you and Miss Andersen are all too keen to send uraniam laden stones onto those same girls and call it fair!

Regarding the ISI, you and the moderators are welcome to ask Langley to investigate whether such links exist. I assure you that you will be sorely embrassed when such an investigation concludes!

[emkhan]

Hmmm Luffy,

This tirade, coming from the son of a diplomat forces one to discuss the Pakistani heirarchy.

Generally, in Pakistan, you dont become a diplomat by merit. Most of the Pashtun areas are awash in nepotism going back about 70 or 80 years. Generally, you can trace a straight line from the corrupt politicians of today back to their British preferred ancestors.

It seems to me that your class is afraid of Islam and, especially afraid of political Islam. The reason? Because its the ultimate in top down destruction of a plutocracy.

The fact of the matter is that you guys urged these men, these Haqqanis, etc to fight the Russians, as was their duty according to the Holy Text they read. There is no debate about that whatsoever from any scholar, whether they are liberal or conservative.

Then, while you sent them to their deaths when America invaded... (because really, what is the difference between an American occupation or a Russian occupation?) you became upset because they saw the double game that he plutocrat class was playing.

You and Mr. Sherpao were all too happy to see them getting killed across the border... after all, it was only a group of people that were a potent radicalized threat to the Pakistani order that were dying... so it was great because you got to hit two birds with 1 stone: Indian interests and Jihadi interests cancelling eachother out!

Yet when they sort of smartened up and realized that you were giving their enemies the tanks that were killing them... they turned their anger on you.

So now, you decided to label them as molestors, anti Islamic, and recruiters of youth!

Yet, can you point out where in the scripture you are correct and where they are wrong in terms of turning their fire power on you?

If its about 15 year old boys taking up arms, then talk to your colleagues in Virginia.. after all, assymetric techniques are a response to assymetric war.

Basically, you created this mess by playing the double game. The supply lines make no reasonable sense while at the same time tacitly approving the Wazirs and Mehsuds to cross into Afghanistan.

True, actually the Pakistani hypocrite army and isi started this game and now when their father pressed them a little bit they turned against their own guys... I tell you brother Pakistani isi, army and beaurocracy is such hypocrite and disloyal. They will sell their own ......... for dollars.

[Michin Khel]

Hmmm Luffy,

This tirade, coming from the son of a diplomat forces one to discuss the Pakistani heirarchy.

Generally, in Pakistan, you dont become a diplomat by merit. Most of the Pashtun areas are awash in nepotism going back about 70 or 80 years. Generally, you can trace a straight line from the corrupt politicians of today back to their British preferred ancestors.

It seems to me that your class is afraid of Islam and, especially afraid of political Islam. The reason? Because its the ultimate in top down destruction of a plutocracy.

The fact of the matter is that you guys urged these men, these Haqqanis, etc to fight the Russians, as was their duty according to the Holy Text they read. There is no debate about that whatsoever from any scholar, whether they are liberal or conservative.

Then, while you sent them to their deaths when America invaded... (because really, what is the difference between an American occupation or a Russian occupation?) you became upset because they saw the double game that he plutocrat class was playing.

You and Mr. Sherpao were all too happy to see them getting killed across the border... after all, it was only a group of people that were a potent radicalized threat to the Pakistani order that were dying... so it was great because you got to hit two birds with 1 stone: Indian interests and Jihadi interests cancelling eachother out!

Yet when they sort of smartened up and realized that you were giving their enemies the tanks that were killing them... they turned their anger on you.

So now, you decided to label them as molestors, anti Islamic, and recruiters of youth!

Yet, can you point out where in the scripture you are correct and where they are wrong in terms of turning their fire power on you?

If its about 15 year old boys taking up arms, then talk to your colleagues in Virginia.. after all, assymetric techniques are a response to assymetric war.

Basically, you created this mess by playing the double game. The supply lines make no reasonable sense while at the same time tacitly approving the Wazirs and Mehsuds to cross into Afghanistan.

I think technically my father is a beurocrat but there is nothing hierarchical about it, there is exam for it, Central superior service exam, CSS for it, emm khan would explain it to you, selection in which is on merit.
I definately never want any kind of taliban's influence in my area, FATA and Afghanistan...they would simply destroy our pashtun society.
Also on this forum i have held ISI responsible for mess due to their double games and betraying...i mention links between talibans of afghanistan and ISI , which is making you uneasy... I know afghans have pride and ego, they wont admit that their talibans are getting help from ISI...

[graveyardofempires]

^
you are a pathological liar.

you even talked about doing gynealogical survey on an Afghan woman and talk about it online in this forum to express your anti Afghan filth so why would anyone believe propaganda from such a person.
Pashtuns dont care what you and your kafir soldat friends want for them,you are irrelevant.

[randolph85]

^That's not true he was executed becuase he was incompetent leader, he could not bring any change to the country, the current mess we are in is becuase of the Islamic extremist and mujhahidin, they inveited those 30+ kuffar countrys to Afghanistan and not communists, communiets didn't closed mosques or opressd religion that your western and arab propaganda. Communiest asked one country for help, and that's only becuase the rest of the world turned there backs to us. Taliban are uneducated illiterate animals that call them self human. They all deserve to die.

i have never heard of people inviting countries to come and kill them. no, that are the westernized afghans with clean shaven faces and suits and ties that are telling the west to kill other afghans. who invited them, who are being paid, and who are being protected by their troops.

communists were **** who oversaw the deaths of 1.5 million afghans. do u think 5 million afghans fled the country because the communists were good leaders? lol u know nothing of afghanistan or afghans. comrade najib even made it a point to drop the "ullah" from his name.


its quite telling when the communist afghans are living overseas, mostly in europe while in afghanistan even the groups who fought each other and hate each other all celebrate the downfall of the communist government and the withdrawal of soviet troops.

[Afghanistan2010]

They will sell their own ......... for dollars.

their ass,mother,sister ...and everything else that is in contact with honour in islam and pakhtunwali.