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    Russian football team player gets beaten by Kadyrov in Grozney

    Footballer Spartak Gogniev abused at Terek Grozny (long version) - YouTube

    GOTTA LOVE THE CHECHEN
    Last edited by Guest; 12-03-2011, 08:11 AM.

  • #2
    and that make you laugh to see a player being beaten? -_- "

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Wazir_Warrior View Post
      and that make you laugh to see a player being beaten? -_- "
      not just a player but a russian player on chechen soil for disrespecting.

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      • #4
        Brother Graveyard, excuse me, but the player isn't a Russian! He is Ossetian!
        Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
        Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

        Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
        Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

        Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
        Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Arevapasht View Post
          Brother Graveyard, excuse me, but the player isn't a Russian! He is Ossetian!
          ooooooooo

          and where is ossetia?if not in russia

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          • #6
            Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
            ooooooooo

            and where is ossetia?if not in russia
            The same place where chechnya is at the moment.
            You would call a Pashtun who lives in Pakistan Pashtun, wouldn't You? So it is not right to call an Ossetian in an other way than Ossetian.
            Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
            Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

            Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
            Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

            Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
            Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Arevapasht View Post
              The same place where chechnya is at the moment.
              You would call a Pashtun who lives in Pakistan Pashtun, wouldn't You? So it is not right to call an Ossetian in an other way than Ossetian.
              are ossetians muslims?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                are ossetians muslims?
                Majority is Christan, There is Sunni minoity among Ossetians. And There are traditional Ossetians too, If I am not wrong.
                But what does it change?
                Among Chechens are also enough people who follow traditional beliefs.
                Last edited by Tjanaparh; 12-03-2011, 09:16 AM.
                Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Arevapasht View Post
                  Majority is Christan, These is Sunni minoity among Ossetians. And There are traditional Ossetians too, If I am not wrong.
                  But what does it change?
                  Among Chechens are also enough prople who follow traditional beliefs.
                  it does matter when chechens are oppressed and denied their right and that by a godless entity such as kremlin.
                  it shouldnt matter in a normal situation but not in this one.
                  ive no problem with christians at least those who dont support godless russia against chechens and those who do cannot be considered christians.
                  chechnya is a muslim country and we muslims are all brothers.
                  ive had russian,chechnyan,armenian,georgian and azerbaijanian friends and they would agree that russia has no business in chechnya.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                    it does matter when chechens are oppressed and denied their right and that by a godless entity such as kremlin.
                    it shouldnt matter in a normal situation but not in this one.
                    ive no problem with christians at least those who dont support godless russia against chechens and those who do cannot be considered christians.
                    chechnya is a muslim country and we muslims are all brothers.
                    ive had russian,chechnyan,armenian,georgian and azerbaijanian friends and they would agree that russia has no business in chechnya.
                    No one should have no buisness, nor in Chechnya , nor in the diveded Ossetia , Nor in the Divided Lezgistan, nor in the diveded Tolish....

                    The politics that are done in our region have really nothing to do with religion, but religion is and was used a lot for it.
                    If everything would be just there would be single national states that live according to their laws and traditions as once it has been in our region , and simply they would defend together their homelands in cases of danger.

                    I do not know - but do You have any information of what godless people play with Chechnya except the Russian government?

                    I want You also to remind You on one thing, You may be a honest Muslim and say that All Muslims are brothers out of really deepest honest and best wishes for chechens - but our Caucasians Muslims and Christians have been used under these religious brotherhood ideas so much, that some nations haven't not only their own country but even no national administrative division...
                    Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                    Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                    Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                    Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                    Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                    Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arevapasht View Post
                      No one should have no buisness, nor in Chechnya , nor in the diveded Ossetia , Nor in the Divided Lezgistan, nor in the diveded Tolish....
                      Its simple brother
                      to Muslims Allah is the most high not the kremlin or atheist communist.So packign them into one system unders such system is not what muslims want.

                      The politics that are done in our region have really nothing to do with religion, but religion is and was used a lot for it.
                      If everything would be just there would be single national states that live according to their laws and traditions as once it has been in our region , and simply they would defend together their homelands in cases of danger.
                      You are right muslism do use religion for their political purposes or in the time of liberating their homelands sicne that is their identity.
                      you are wrong brother to think that muslims will choose for nationalism or regionalism instead of their religion.that is their identity ,thats why there is no difference between a sudanese muslim and a chechnyan or ossetian.

                      I do not know - but do You have any information of what godless people play with Chechnya except the Russian government?
                      Its just the russian government and has always been matter of fact they are also causing friction among muslims under name of chechnyan,dagestani etc.
                      do you remember the school attack that russia did to attack chechnya.So who is according to you involved,i bet you will have your own theory as such some here have about pakistani involvement in Afghanistan and that somehow Pashtuns are under the spell of pakistani government.
                      I want You also to remind You on one thing, You may be a honest Muslim and say that All Muslims are brothers out of really deepest honest and best wishes for chechens - but our Caucasians Muslims and Christians have been used under these religious brotherhood ideas so much, that some nations haven't not only their own country but even no national administrative division...
                      Sorry borther
                      i do not hate others when i say muslism are brothers all aroudn the world and you shouldnt feel like it is something against you or the christians and the same is said by christians.
                      After the fall of communist empire by Afghans not only muslims were again able to practice their religion but also christians were.Germany got united and many countries got independence but russia still is holding on other countries who also wished to be free to choose their own fate.

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                      • #12
                        I will answer You later, excuse me, I have to leave to do some work!
                        Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                        Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                        Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                        Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                        Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                        Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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                        • #13
                          "chechnya is a muslim country and we muslims are all brothers" - this is football club supporter thinking.

                          If everyone can start thinking "we humans are all brothers" - that would lead to a much better world. This is why Western nations are comparatively better than the rest.

                          And I can remind you that during history more Muslims seem to have been killed by Muslims rather than killed by non-Muslims. eg Iran-Iraq war - how many millions of Muslims killed? How many Muslims did you find protesting that war? Hardly any.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Wahe Guru View Post
                            "chechnya is a muslim country and we muslims are all brothers" - this is football club supporter thinking.

                            If everyone can start thinking "we humans are all brothers" - that would lead to a much better world. This is why Western nations are comparatively better than the rest.

                            And I can remind you that during history more Muslims seem to have been killed by Muslims rather than killed by non-Muslims. eg Iran-Iraq war - how many millions of Muslims killed? How many Muslims did you find protesting that war? Hardly any.
                            how about you **** off
                            since when is a sikh or hindu relevant when it comes to muslims Pashtuns or the world.

                            your opinion matters as much as the dirt on the side walk.
                            so according to you western nations are about human brotherhood?
                            you are one sikh puppy.

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                            • #15
                              WaheGuru and Arevapasht, I TOTALLY, 100% agree with you.

                              Don't care what this guy is saying, he is a !&@"'**.

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