Mahmud Ahmadinijad's house

[Al Hanif]

I wrote this post in another thread were you were gloryfing the Iranians.

I quote:



I have nothing against Iranians but I do oppose their ideology (shia Islam) and their government and state which is actively trying to spread Shia Islam.

When you say the Saudis you mean the Al Saud family like? If so then I agree. I have labelled them apostates as have nearly all Arabs. But that is not the same as saying Saudis.

At the same time the Saudis help us the most agains the killings of the Mahdi and other Shia militias. So it is too simplistic to make it like that.

But Iranians and americans have made business before. They are cooperating in Afghanistan.

I do not agree with that. Israel are not even able to claim victory against Palestine. The world has changed sin Nasser's failed military battle.

Hezbollah is an Arab army. Not Iranian. Shia is not = Iranian.

Hezbollah are Shias from Lebanon. But they do get support from Iran.

Saudi Arabia have Sharia. Iran claim to have it but they openly sell alcohol and are the biggest drug addicts.

I cannot support a country that claim to be islamic but are not, are shia's, are trying to eliminate Iranian sunnis, trying to divide Arab and Muslim land etc.

Iranians are bad Muslims in general as others also have said here. Most Iranians here in the Middle East are atheists.

Ahmedinejad is a jewish agent btw. His father was Jewish.

I know exactly what I am saying.

Israel won all its wars (except egypt-israeli war under nasser)

Since then, only Iran-backed shias from hezbollah succeded into resisting to Israel, and this, thanks to Iranian training and weapons

The question is : why aren't saudis doing the same thing with Gaza ?

I know what the average Iranians are. Don't misinterpret my words. I am not glorifying them.

They have a huge culture of homoerotism.

They are Rafidahs.

They are extremely racist against non-indo european / aryan people.

They worship white people.

They hate Islam.

They are extremely nationalists.



I am talking about the state, not the people.

Iran is better than Saudi Arabia.

And don't tell me Saudi Arabia is an Islamic State under sharia law, it's false. It's an apostate state.

How can an Islamic state fund the genocide of 500,000 children in Iraq ?

How can an Islamic state host american bases on its soil ?

About shias being a threat : should I remind you that Shias used to rule a huge territory including Morocco ? The fatimids



but we chased these munafiqs and now they are not here anymore

shiism is not a threat to arabs or islam because shiism is false and that's why most iranians are atheists

so I think that you should be open minded and not see it with an arab point of view

[graveyardofempires]

Iranian shi state works in concert with the rest.
look how famouse they got after attack on Afghanistan and Iraq and not to mention the power they got in those two countries.

i think the rest is drama/play.

[al-arab]

I know exactly what I am saying.

Israel won all its wars (except egypt-israeli war under nasser)

Since then, only Iran-backed shias from hezbollah succeded into resisting to Israel, and this, thanks to Iranian training and weapons

The question is : why aren't saudis doing the same thing with Gaza ?

I know what the average Iranians are. Don't misinterpret my words. I am not glorifying them.

They have a huge culture of homoerotism.

They are Rafidahs.

They are extremely racist against non-indo european / aryan people.

They worship white people.

They hate Islam.

They are extremely nationalists.



I am talking about the state, not the people.

Iran is better than Saudi Arabia.

And don't tell me Saudi Arabia is an Islamic State under sharia law, it's false. It's an apostate state.

How can an Islamic state fund the genocide of 500,000 children in Iraq ?

How can an Islamic state host american bases on its soil ?

About shias being a threat : should I remind you that Shias used to rule a huge territory including Morocco ? The fatimids



but we chased these munafiqs and now they are not here anymore

shiism is not a threat to arabs or islam because shiism is false and that's why most iranians are atheists

so I think that you should be open minded and not see it with an arab point of view

Well if you saw what I wrote in the other thread, which I quoted, we would not misunderstand each other. I only appluad Iran's stance against Israel and usa now. But the truth is that they cooperated with USA to invade BOTH Iraq and Afghanistan?

So are they any better than Al Saud family?

At least Saudis are rightoeus Muslims who follow Sunni Islam and support us Sunnis. The regular Iranian is very un-Islamic. They often are atheists, hate Islam and prefer their culture before Islam and their stupid Shah. They have the highest number of Heroin addicts in the world and have a huge number of alcoholics.

THey openly sell alcohol.

All this you do not find in Saudi Arabia.

As I have said numerous times, the Al Saud family are apostates but nowhere is the Saudi people that.

They are 1000 times better Muslims than the pseudo shia muslims in Iran.

In fact most Saudis supported the Sunni Arabs and Kurds resistance against Iranian agents, mahdi army and militias.

Iran are responsible for more deaths because of their backing of the puppet Iraqi government, and the militias.

Not to mention their support for the shia sect member Assad in Syria who is murdering Sunnis in Syria for fun.

I regard Iran as apostates and the greatest enemy towards Islam together with USA, Israel and their puppets (communist and secular alike). I see no difference between them and Iran. Both are playing double games and attacking Muslim countries.

Brother graveyardempires is right.

[Al Hanif]

Well if you saw what I wrote in the other thread, which I quoted, we would not misunderstand each other. I only appluad Iran's stance against Israel and usa now. But the truth is that they cooperated with USA to invade BOTH Iraq and Afghanistan?

So are they any better than Al Saud family?

At least Saudis are rightoeus Muslims who follow Sunni Islam and support us Sunnis. The regular Iranian is very un-Islamic. They often are atheists, hate Islam and prefer their culture before Islam and their stupid Shah. They have the highest number of Heroin addicts in the world and have a huge number of alcoholics.

THey openly sell alcohol.

All this you do not find in Saudi Arabia.

As I have said numerous times, the Al Saud family are apostates but nowhere is the Saudi people that.

They are 1000 times better Muslims than the pseudo shia muslims in Iran.

In fact most Saudis supported the Sunni Arabs and Kurds resistance against Iranian agents, mahdi army and militias.

Iran are responsible for more deaths because of their backing of the puppet Iraqi government, and the militias.

Not to mention their support for the shia sect member Assad in Syria who is murdering Sunnis in Syria for fun.

I regard Iran as apostates and the greatest enemy towards Islam together with USA, Israel and their puppets (communist and secular alike). I see no difference between them and Iran. Both are playing double games and attacking Muslim countries.

Brother graveyardempires is right.

Well, I admit that my point of view is slightly biased and I should be forgiven since I do not have the same access to informations as you for living in the west.

Also, I was always talking about Iran and Saudi Arabia as states, not the average people. Don't make it ambiguous.

And about Iranians officials denouncing USA, I now agree with graveyardofempire that this is all drama. You are opening doors in my head... thanks.

However, one can easily understand the position of Iran in the war in Iraq because of the Iraq/Iran war and the position of Iran in the war in Afghanistan because of the Taliban treatment of Shias Hazaras.

So, Iran and Saudi Arabia's support of Iraq war cannot be objectively compared.

[al-arab]

Do not worry brother.

I have had several discussion about this subject with Muslims, even Sunnis who were favorable of Iran.

Unfortunately the truth is that we lack good leaders in the Muslim world. Especially in the Arab world. There is nothing to hide from it.

But because of that some Muslims automatically think that Iran must be better but in the truth they are the worst for cooperating with usa and their puppets in both Afghanistan and Iraq but not saying it openly. Even though they have done so they publicily claim they hate usa and israel when the truth is otherwise.

They are aticvely supporting shia sects in Afghanistan and Pakistan as well in the Arab world (Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Bahrain). Those shia sects are misguided and commit big crimes against civilians especially the Sunni Arabs and Kurds in Iraq.

Since you unfortunately do not speak Arabic I can not post this documentary but I will post one made by BBC (yes they are western media but I think the documentary was done by an Muslim Arab). Nevertheless they are pretty accurate.

Now you will see what Iran is trying to do with Iraq.

A lot of Saudis dont want the apostates (al Saud) to rule. Most rich saudis who are not members of al-saud support us Sunnis openly in Iraq, Syria, Chechnya,rest of Caucasus, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia and all other Muslim lands.

Iran do not do this. They are only interested in getting more political power and spreading their shia islam to their neighbour countries by propaganda.

Of course there are good Muslims in Iran as well, as I have said but their governemnt is no example for us Muslims to follow. They are playing shameless double games and are lying for us Muslims when they claim to oppose usa and Israel but at the same time cooperate with them in both Afghanistan and Iraq. The mosts shameless behaviour.

Islam Sunni-Shia Debate - YouTube

Sunni and Shia Debate (sunni sheikh adan) AMAZING - YouTube

This is Arabic with English subtitles.

But brother, my advice is to make your own mind up about this theme. We all have been wrong and do wrong things. But me must learn from it.

[Insaaf_انصاف]

Do not worry brother.

I have had several discussion about this subject with Muslims, even Sunnis who were favorable of Iran.

Unfortunately the truth is that we lack good leaders in the Muslim world. Especially in the Arab world. There is nothing to hide from it.

But because of that some Muslims automatically think that Iran must be better but in the truth they are the worst for cooperating with usa and their puppets in both Afghanistan and Iraq but not saying it openly. Even though they have done so they publicily claim they hate usa and israel when the truth is otherwise.

They are aticvely supportin sects in Afghanistan and Pakistan as well in the Arab world (Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Bahrain). Those shia sects are misguided and commit big crimes against civilians especially the Sunni Arabs and Kurds in Iraq.

Since you unfortunately do not speak Arabic I can not post this documentary but I will post one made by BBC (yes they are western media but I think the documentary was done byan Muslim Arab). Nevertheless they are pretty accurate.

Now you will see what Iran is trying to do with Iraq.

A lot of Saudis dont the apostates (al Saud) to rule. Most rich saudis who are not members of al-saud support us Sunnis openly in Iraq, Syria, Chechnya,rest of Caucasus, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia and all other Muslim lands.

Iran do not do this. They are only interested in getting more political power and spreading their shia islam to their neighbour countries by propaganda.

Of course there are good Muslims in Iran as well, as I have said but their governemnt is no example for







us Muslims to follow. They are playing shameless double games and are lying for us Muslims when they claim to oppose usa and Israel but at the same time cooperate with them in both Afghanistan and Iraq. The mosts shameless behaviour.

Islam Sunni-Shia Debate - YouTube[/URL]

Sunni and Shia Debate (sunni sheikh adan) AMAZING - YouTube[/URL]

This is Arabic with English subtitles.

But brother, my advice is to make your own mind up about this theme. We all have been wrong and do wrong things. But me must learn from it.

:-) :-) ^^

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Saudis and shia state of Iran both supported war against Iraq and Afghanistan

check this out
Iran the hypocrite, Muslims beware of that - YouTube
Iran helped USA to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - YouTube

This tape of Khatami, Graveyard, is probably one of the single most important and high yield videos I have ever seen here at PF. Bravo to you for finding it.

You are 100% correct. Iranians have played their hands very smartly, squaring their enemies off against eachother in a sustained war of attrition.

They loved watching Americans and Sunnis smack eachother around in Iraq with Al Sadr making the occasional "nationalist" speech. In reality Al Sadr was all to happy to have the US doing the killing for him so that his Mehdi Militia has less to deal with after the US is forced to depart fully.

And remember, Khatami is seen is a moderate of the Iranian society.

And one must remember that both Pakistan and Iran are loathe to see the US leave Afghanistan in the near future.

For Pakistan, this is the cash cow that sustains its economy and for Iran, it wants to watch the US flounder around and waste trillions while it focuses on strengthening itself for when the day comes that it will face some outside insult.

Once again, this is a wonderful post and find. The former president of Iran delineating Iranian political policy for all to see reveals that sunni paranoia is not actually paranoia at all.

[graveyardofempires]

This tape of Khatami, Graveyard, is probably one of the single most important and high yield videos I have ever seen here at PF. Bravo to you for finding it.

You are 100% correct. Iranians have played their hands very smartly, squaring their enemies off against eachother in a sustained war of attrition.

They loved watching Americans and Sunnis smack eachother around in Iraq with Al Sadr making the occasional "nationalist" speech. In reality Al Sadr was all to happy to have the US doing the killing for him so that his Mehdi Militia has less to deal with after the US is forced to depart fully.

And remember, Khatami is seen is a moderate of the Iranian society.

And one must remember that both Pakistan and Iran are loathe to see the US leave Afghanistan in the near future.

For Pakistan, this is the cash cow that sustains its economy and for Iran, it wants to watch the US flounder around and waste trillions while it focuses on strengthening itself for when the day comes that it will face some outside insult.

Once again, this is a wonderful post and find. The former president of Iran delineating Iranian political policy for all to see reveals that sunni paranoia is not actually paranoia at all.

You are welcome bro.

[abassinafghan]

hahahahaa

you talk as if the iranians are our advosaries just the last decade , son take on of habibi lalas history books and start to read .

and if you have done so , ask some people who stayed in the 90s in kabul and ask them about mazari . there you see what iranians did , and what they are still doing
till this day they use their influence to stop development on the hilmand rod , so they can use the water for their goods , while we have not even enough electricity , or use it for aqua fertilisation of hilmand

[BarakzaiAbdali]

hahahahaa

you talk as if the iranians are our advosaries just the last decade , son take on of habibi lalas history books and start to read .

and if you have done so , ask some people who stayed in the 90s in kabul and ask them about mazari . there you see what iranians did , and what they are still doing
till this day they use their influence to stop development on the hilmand rod , so they can use the water for their goods , while we have not even enough electricity , or use it for aqua fertilisation of hilmand

I never said that. In fact this adversary mentality goes all the way back to even before that. It goes back to when Mir wais and his Ghilzais kicked them out for trying to come in force shiism onto the Pashtuns as well. This is one major reason that is overlooked as to why there is such conflict between shiites and sunnis in that reason. Iranian incursions have been going on for as long as "Mughal" incursions have if not longer.

But Graveyard's video is valuable beacuse Soldat and these guys always try to cover this aspect of the Iran role in both Iraq and Afghanistan that has stoked a fire between sunnis and shiites.

This is an isntance where Iran's supposedly moderate president is crowing and bragging about these exact issues on video. Thats a valuable find.

[Catya Sher]

I disagree.
GYE has posted this same video every time.
Each time I have seen it I denounce it as any valid evidence.
Khatami was a Big Zero.
He was probably some sort of agent of influence of America - Israel.
He always looked flat to me, not like a dynamic person striving
to do good for EVERYBODY.
Such as ...Ahmadinejad !
I think he sincerely wants the best for all: Sunni, Shia and a genuine
conciliation of opponents in the region so that ALL together
can oppose outside influence.
I pay attention to his speeches, sometimes.
He stresses this every time ; I am not putting words in his mouth.

You guys are awfully over-negative in my opinion.

If it's a bad Iranian leader, OK, then avoid them.
But if sincere and kindly like this man,
"work "with him and his govt !

Don'twaste valuable time with vanities "Oh we can't talk to HIM".

It's shooting oneself in one's own foot.
The only way OBVIOUSLY to get everyone in the region
strong
is to :
COOPERATE
on basis of equality.

I'd say strike while the iron's hot, because who knows what comes after him?
Hopefully someone enlightened.
But if Israel gets in there and pushes some traitor or traitors [like the Green Party or much worse too]
into power, then it's trouble for Afghanistan. Huge trouble.

No Iranians are not smirking away that America is losing time and treasure
in this military occupation of Afghanistan !
They sincerely want America out.

I feel barakzai does not have a very good sense of the Iranian mind.

One has to sense what is behind what is said by Iranians.

They are ALWAYS EXTREMELY NERVOUS to have American military
anywhere near their borders, whether Iraq or Afghanistan.

They hate it.
They are not privately laughing and enjoying this terrible decade.

Khatami was just a dumbie.
Never pay attention to him for a second.

Listen to Ahmadinejad and take him seriously. I think he means exactly
what he says.

Especially when he tallks about JUSTICE for all.
That doesn't mean squashing other people like Pashtuns.
You guys have to give them a chance and not hold onto
past stereotypes !

You don't want Iranians holding onto old myths about Afghans
either, do you ?!

[BarakzaiAbdali]

I disagree.
GYE has posted this same video every time.
Each time I have seen it I denounce it as any valid evidence.
Khatami was a Big Zero.
He was probably some sort of agent of influence of America - Israel.
He always looked flat to me, not like a dynamic person striving
to do good for EVERYBODY.
Such as ...Ahmadinejad !
I think he sincerely wants the best for all: Sunni, Shia and a genuine
conciliation of opponents in the region so that ALL together
can oppose outside influence.
I pay attention to his speeches, sometimes.
He stresses this every time ; I am not putting words in his mouth.

You guys are awfully over-negative in my opinion.

If it's a bad Iranian leader, OK, then avoid them.
But if sincere and kindly like this man,
"work "with him and his govt !

Don'twaste valuable time with vanities "Oh we can't talk to HIM".

It's shooting oneself in one's own foot.
The only way OBVIOUSLY to get everyone in the region
strong
is to :
COOPERATE
on basis of equality.

I'd say strike while the iron's hot, because who knows what comes after him?
Hopefully someone enlightened.
But if Israel gets in there and pushes some traitor or traitors [like the Green Party or much worse too]
into power, then it's trouble for Afghanistan. Huge trouble.

No Iranians are not smirking away that America is losing time and treasure
in this military occupation of Afghanistan !
They sincerely want America out.

I feel barakzai does not have a very good sense of the Iranian mind.

One has to sense what is behind what is said by Iranians.

They are ALWAYS EXTREMELY NERVOUS to have American military
anywhere near their borders, whether Iraq or Afghanistan.

They hate it.
They are not privately laughing and enjoying this terrible decade.

Khatami was just a dumbie.
Never pay attention to him for a second.

Listen to Ahmadinejad and take him seriously. I think he means exactly
what he says.

Especially when he tallks about JUSTICE for all.
That doesn't mean squashing other people like Pashtuns.
You guys have to give them a chance and not hold onto
past stereotypes !

You don't want Iranians holding onto old myths about Afghans
either, do you ?!

I am so confused by you my friend. I mean on the one had you were happy the Americans took Mossadegh down against the aspirations of the Iranian people... and then onthe other hand you are Pro Ahmedinijad. I am not saying you are wrong, the man may be genuine. I dont doubt that he severely dislikes American presence and actions.

I never stated he loved America, but I do think its valid to say that Iran knows America just is addicted to intervening, especially on israel's behalf. No one doubts that they do not want America around in that region, but they also did not want a strong sunni Afghanistan and a strong sunni Iraq presence if they could get rid of it. Perhaps if these groups demonstrated a fervent desire to establish some sort of trade and peace with Iran and vice versa that might be different. But I think its naive to say that Iran does not see the US as a certain threat and thinks: better these countries than ours to bide us time.

[sunni]

Mahmud Ahmadinijad president of Iran at his home.

House of A MUSLIM PRESIDENT, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - Farsi sub Urdu - YouTube

thats not his house or maybe his old house where is his bank account.

lol its the same as karazai getting only 500-700$ per month being afghanistan presedent haha and look at his family and the houses they got in dubai and other places.

i dont believe this sneaky guy ahmdinajad.

Iran with no doubt.

I am not sure whether Iranians shias are kuffars or not.

But I am 100% sure that the house of Sauds are apostates.

you are 200% wrong.
shias not kafirs? well i wont say all of them but those who are ruling iran are one of the biggest monafiq shia on this earth.

you don't know them, bro.
and you dont know what they have done to sunni's in iran, lol man i dont wanna say anything cuz its would make me angery just search on GOOGLE.com

saudi king is not the one who says what to do or not there are ppl who ride him left and right, he is sick enough to take care of his healthy.
those who are next to him are the dickheads who should be treated bad.

You say that because you are an Arab.

I am not an arab and from a non-arab muslim point of view, here's what I see :

- Saudis funded the Iraq wars

- I never saw an Iranian official laughing with US officials








- Iran is a greater threat to Israel than all arab countries together

- Iran has no american bases on its soil

- Iran backed hezbollah which is more powerful than all arab armies

- Iranian president spoke the truth in UN speeches, I never saw any Saudi doing the same


From a muslim point of view, Iran is infinitely better than Saudi Arabia

I dislike shias but saying that Saudis officials are better than Iranians officials is false.

graveyardofempires bro have post one post to make stop this non sanse.



-catya are you shia?

[sunni]

im not going to read all this, but hey no one says they are good we all knows all of the gov are worst but iranian are the worst so islamic gov/country on this planet.

why don't you search and read and see wats up with them agianst sunni muslims.

[Karachi]

very good post Nevada. Please bro keep spreading your message always!

Sunni you have no answers to Neveda's post, do you??

you will always keep supporting the Al Saud blindly no matter what??

I have a feeling you are paid by them to always defend them, just like the many saudi clerics and imams