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    It's Time to End Our Relationship With Pakistan

    It's Time To End Our Relationship With Pakistan | Fox News


    By K.T. McFarland
    Published November 30, 2011 | FoxNews.com
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    Our relations with Pakistan are like the battered wife syndrome. The country keeps doing us wrong, but promises that next time things will be different.
    We’re desperate for the relationship to work out, so we believe them. We take their excuses at face value, rationalizing away their behavior. We seize on the few moments when things are good, as proof that they will change we just hang on a little longer….or try a little harder. But of course nothing ever changes, and we get in deeper and deeper.

    We, like the battered wife, need to face the reality that things are only going to get worse, and it’s time to walk away and make some new friends. But it won’t be easy and it won’t be without major risks.

    For ten years we have had a tortured relationship with Pakistan. We’ve needed their help in the Afghan War, and they’ve wanted our money. We’ve needed Pakistani supply routes to get our equipment and material into landlocked, mountainous and roadless Afghanistan. We’ve needed Pakistan to help take out the Taliban safe havens in the tribal areas inside Pakistan. We’ve needed Pakistan to help us find Bin Laden and destroy Al Qaeda. And we’ve given them some $20 billion in military and economic assistance as an incentive. And they have helped us….just enough…. to string us along and keep the relationship going.

    But they’ve never been committed enough to the relationship to go all in. Why?
    Because they see things differently than we do, and have different goals. Above all, they want a pro-Pakistan, government in Afghanistan after our inevitable departure, to give them strategic depth against their arch-enemy India. If we leave and the Karzai government stays in power, fine, Pakistan has helped achieve that outcome.
    But if we leave and the Karzai government falls, as looks ever more likely, the Pakistanis are hedged because they have given safe haven to the Taliban group most likely to succeed Karzai.
    Sound complicated? Not really. They’re just doing what they think is best for them.

    They did the same thing with Usama bin Laden. For years the government denied that the terror mastermind was in Pakistan. Yet Bin Laden was found in a safe house near in a military complex in... Pakistan.
    Shocking? Hardly.
    The Pakistanis were in the "finding" Bin Laden business. Once Bin Laden was found -- dead or alive -- they’d be out of business. So they did the sensible thing -- from their perspective -- and kept him alive and hidden. They pretended to help us look for him and they continued asking us for more aid to do so.

    From our viewpoint, they’ve been double dealing. But from Pakistan’s viewpoint, they’re only doing what is in their best interest: hedging their bets against our departure, hedging their bets to get our assistance.

    But we’ve got to do what is in our best interests, too. Those in favor of sticking it out with Pakistan cite three reasons:
    First, if we don’t Afghanistan will descend into chaos and Al Qaeda will come back. Phooey. Al Qaeda has already moved on….to Yemen….to Somalia…. we don’t have 100,000 troops there. Who needs Afghanistan if they have all of cyberspace?
    Second, they point to Pakistan’s nuclear weapons arsenal and say if we sever ties with Pakistan those nukes could fall into the hands of terrorists. Yet, by that logic we have just as much to fear from North Korea’s nuclear weapons and from Iran’s nuclear weapons program. Even our most militant neo-cons don’t think we should invade Iran.

    To a certain extent, we’ve been Pakistan’s enablers. Hasn’t our military assistance allowed them to devote more of their own resources to their rapidly expanding nuclear arsenal? Wouldn’t it be better for us to take those billions of dollars in aid to Pakistan and put it towards intelligence gathering and covert operations so we can know where those nuclear weapons are and if need be stop them from falling into the hands of terrorists?
    Finally, some of the aid we give Pakistan ultimately ends up supporting the Pakistani intelligence services which give safe haven to and work with the Taliban. As former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mullen said, the Haqqani Taliban network is a virtual arm of the Pakistani intelligence services. -- This is the same group responsible for a number of the recent attacks on NATO military and civilian targets.
    Isn’t it unconscionable that we are paying Pakistan to kill our people in Afghanistan? Don’t we owe it to the men and women who have sacrificed so much for our country and who are still in Afghanistan to walk away from this abusive relationship?
    Kathleen Troia "K.T." McFarland is a Fox News National Security Analyst and host of FoxNews.com's DefCon 3. She is a Distinguished Adviser to the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies and served in national security posts in the Nixon, Ford and Reagan administrations. She wrote Secretary of Defense Weinberger’s November 1984 "Principles of War Speech" which laid out the Weinberger Doctrine. Be sure to watch "K.T." every Wednesday at 2 p.m. ET on FoxNews.com's "DefCon3"-- already one of the Web's most watched national security programs.


    Pakistanis demand end to US ties

    Last Updated: Thursday, December 01, 2011, 23:46
    NATO attack: Pakistanis demand end to US ties
    Tags: NATO attack, Pakistan, Pakistan protests


    Lahore/Islamabad: People across Pakistan, including lawyers and political activists, continued protests on Thursday against the cross-border NATO air strike that killed 24 soldiers over the weekend and demanded that the government should snap ties with the US.


    During a huge rally organised in Lahore, lawyers' groups urged the government to stop providing any logistical support to NATO forces in Afghanistan and to reject all financial aid from the US.

    They contended that Pakistan's participation in the US-led war on terror had put the country's sovereignty at stake.

    Several leaders of lawyers' groups demanded that Pakistan should immediately end its relations with the United States and take back military bases that were being used by American forces.

    Lawyers boycotted courts as part of the protest and marched in a rally along the Mall Road, Lahore's main thoroughfare.

    Though the Lahore city administration had banned protests on this road, the lawyers obtained special permission for their rally from a court.

    They shouted slogans against the US and pledged their support to the military leadership.

    Pakistan responded angrily to Saturday's NATO attack on two military border posts by closing all NATO supply routes and asking the US to vacate Shamsi airbase, reportedly used by CIA-operated drones.

    In Faisalabad, several organisations and people from different walks of life staged rallies against the NATO attack.

    The protesters carried banners and placards and shouted slogans against NATO forces.

    Activists of the main opposition PML-N party, Imran Khan's Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf and Pakistan Medical Association were among those who joined the protests.

    They appreciated the government's decision to stop NATO supplies.

    In Karachi, the Pakistan Hindu Council strongly condemned NATO's "unprovoked air strike" on the Army posts and described it as an attack on Pakistan's sovereignty.

    The Council pledged its "full support" to the army in its fight for the honour, sovereignty and safety of the country. Among those who joined the protest were former legislator Ramesh Kumar Vankwani, Mahesh Kumar Talreja, Mohan Lal Harchandani and Mangla Sharma.

    They appealed to international organisations like the United Nations to take note of the "US aggression".

    They underlined the need for changes in Pakistan's foreign policy to uphold its interests and sovereignty.

    "We will have to take certain difficult decisions," Vankwani said.

    The protestors shouted slogans like "We condemn NATO attack on our sovereignty" and "Hindu, Muslims, Sikhs and Christians are brothers".

    In Quetta, peace activists, members of civil society groups and the Balochistan Gender Network participated in a candle light vigil organised by Aurat Foundation to protest the NATO air strike.

    PTI

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    hmmmm Unknownprince seems to have a thing for Pakistan. Unknownprince, most of your recent threads are quite in support of Pakistan. Do I smell a rat here?

    I guess I actually do. Unknownprince, why do you continue to make it obvious your nothing but a Paki on here trying to save Pakistan from the evil hands of America?

    If America cuts the aid, those skinny ass Lawyers who run around preaching about freedom and justice but wrap flowers around a killer like mumtaz Qadri, those little skinny lawyers, do understand that most of their scholarships abroad would be dramatically cut.

    You do understand Pakistan virtually runs on American aid, and if America cuts it, Pakistan would crumble to pieces, you do understand, that without American Aid, the Pakistan army would be finished and collapse.

    I guess you really need to do some education on the subject of American aid to Pakistan.

    Because if America cuts the aid, who is Pakistan going to beg from? Russia? China? you and I know they wont help Pakistan, especially when Pakistan has harboured boht Chinese Islamists and Chechens too, you ever wonder, why China has step up its border patrols with Pakistan, I guess you dont get the hint, you little kid living in America or Canada!

    Pakistan is soon to be finished, wiped off the map, every Afghan hates Pakistan, only little cheating criminals with a beard will side with Pakistan, but lets see who pays for their next round of Dhaal!

    hahahaha!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
      Unknownprince, why do you continue to make it obvious your nothing but a Paki on here trying to save Pakistan from the evil hands of America?


      you think someone here has some kind of power to change things ? lol

      even if you wrote 100 essays a day, you will never have as much influence as the average Talib

      unknownprince does not prevent you from taking a ticket to federal admnistated areas

      do something for a change

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      • #4
        ahahahha pakistan should rejekt american aid hhahahhahah that was a good one especially if you consider how much napakistan recieved in the last decade , let alone the years before .

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
          hmmmm Unknownprince seems to have a thing for Pakistan. Unknownprince, most of your recent threads are quite in support of Pakistan. Do I smell a rat here?
          It's Time to End Our Relationship With Pakistan

          This is the title of the article. Why are you so bothered by this?

          I guess I actually do. Unknownprince, why do you continue to make it obvious your nothing but a Paki on here trying to save Pakistan from the evil hands of America?
          It looks like you support Pakistan continuing to support the US war and occupation of Afghanistan? So does anything you said make any sense.

          If America cuts the aid, those skinny ass Lawyers who run around preaching about freedom and justice but wrap flowers around a killer like mumtaz Qadri, those little skinny lawyers, do understand that most of their scholarships abroad would be dramatically cut.
          Why are you so opposed to an end of the relationship between Pakistan and the US? Please answer this question. Wishful thinking wont get you anywhere buddy.

          You do understand Pakistan virtually runs on American aid, and if America cuts it, Pakistan would crumble to pieces, you do understand, that without American Aid, the Pakistan army would be finished and collapse.
          You seem really worried about Pakistan. Buddy, here is some news for you. Imran Khan may have virtually finalized the end of Pakistan support for the US war and occupation of Afghanistan. He has been demanding it for the last 7 years. His recent demands for Pakistan to stop all support for the US war and occupation have raised the stakes. Any politicians or general seen serving US interests are putting themselves in a very bad situation. Hence, from the sidelines, Imran's demands (being the most popular politician in Pakistan according to Pew polls) are like an order, not to be refused. WHy are you so bothered about the end of Pakistan-US ties? Is this not what you wanted? US should and ought to cut ties Pakistan. US has the right to cut ties with Pakistan. It will be great for regional and world peace. Pakistan will/has stop(ed) supporting the US war and occupation.

          I guess you really need to do some education on the subject of American aid to Pakistan.
          Reject US aid, says Imran Khan



          Imran has put pressure on the Pakistan Army which has been supporting the US effort, to stop getting US aid. and another one, please read Latest News, Breaking News, US Aid Rejected by Pak Army Buddy, wake up. Kayani says Pakistan doesn't need U.S. aid, warns against unilateral action - National Afghanistan Headlines | Examiner.com

          Why so you want Pakistan Army to receive US aid? Why?



          Because if America cuts the aid, who is Pakistan going to beg from? Russia? China?
          Why do you care? Should this news not be received well by you, but you seem more disturbed? What does it matter to you?



          Pakistan is soon to be finished, wiped off the map, every Afghan hates Pakistan, only little cheating criminals with a beard will side with Pakistan, but lets see who pays for their next round of Dhaal!
          Then if you believe this to be true, why are you so concerned about the end of US-Pak relationship? It appears you are really upset. Am I correct? Again, this is the title of the article buddy

          It's Time to End Our Relationship With Pakistan

          Last edited by Guest; 12-01-2011, 05:44 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
            hmmmm Unknownprince seems to have a thing for Pakistan. Unknownprince, most of your recent threads are quite in support of Pakistan. Do I smell a rat here?
            That's why he calls himself "UnknownPrince" (aka. "Prince" who is too ashamed to make himself known, because he's Pakjabi)

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