Iqar War Veteran Speaks throws His medals and stars then Quits .

[Tormushki]

iraq war: us soldier throws his medals and stars!!! and quits - YouTube

[al-arab]

What is Iqar?

There is no surprise that the infidels did commit horrible crimes which they will find hard forgiveness from.

The invadors lost the war and had it not been for the Sons of Iraq they would have been humiliated even more.

The British in Basra were just as bad. They had no control of the city so they made a deal with the Shia militias (backed by Iran) and returned to their base (before they were in the city center). 2 years after (in 2009) they left and the Shia militias (the police were a part of them) controlled the city until the Iranian agent Nuri al-Maliki needed to haunt the militias down because he feared a coup against him leaded by Ahmed Chalabi (another Iranian agent).

I am proud that the Iraqi's never surrended and that the invadors never controlled any part of the country apart from their bases and that they would achieve nothing had it not been for the Sons of Iraq.

Their ignorance and crimes commited against the cradle of civilization, when they themselves are rednecks says everything.

May Allah Almighty curse those who do not regret their sins every day.

[abassinafghan]

al arab , continiue to show denial of reality

[Talal]

as if throwing these medals out would change a damn thing..this guy is a coward, doing this makes him no better

[al-arab]

al arab , continiue to show denial of reality

What do you say?

I dare you to challenge everything I said in my post. If you do not believe I can post your western sources to back my opinion if you do not believe in local Arabic sources.

Unlike you I have actually been in Iraq during the war every year and seen the situation with my own eyes from Baghdad, Basra to Musul and Al-Anbar province.

In fact I was in Iraq only 10 days ago....

[Wahe Guru]

What do you say?

I dare you to challenge everything I said in my post. If you do not believe I can post your western sources to back my opinion if you do not believe in local Arabic sources.

Unlike you I have actually been in Iraq during the war every year and seen the situation with my own eyes from Baghdad, Basra to Musul and Al-Anbar province.

In fact I was in Iraq only 10 days ago....

How about all you people who shout a lot...go to Israel and see how things turn out there?...be thankful this is 21st century before talking about who got humiliated...i agree with you however that last Iraq war was totally unjustified..but what about the Shias and Christians being targeted there for no reason...how do you justify that?

[al-arab]

Every time I see something in public saying stuff like, "Support Our Troops!" or some other such nonsense, I think to myself, "f*ck your troops", but then I realize that its not so much the fault of individual soldiers who have simply taken the job to feed their families, as it is the government's.

Yes, because the only option for a job is being a soldier. And killing civilians is also only in order to feed their families.

Especially those young soldiers who have no families to feed.

Maybe they should have protested/told the truth when they were in Iraq not years after in their safe heaven and when out of the army.

[al-arab]

How about all you people who shout a lot...go to Israel and see how things turn out there?...be thankful this is 21st century before talking about who got humiliated...i agree with you however that last Iraq war was totally unjustified..but what about the Shias and Christians being targeted there for no reason...how do you justify that?

What are you taling about now? Even every idiot can see that the war was wrong. They even admitted (usa and other puppets) that they were wrong and that their main argument (Saddam having chemical weapons and supporting Al-Qaeda) "turned out" being wrong (they knew it all the time)

My point is that the americans and their puppets never controlled any parts of Iraq apart from their bases. I gave a quick view of that in my first post in this thread.

I thing you should read about the Iraqi War a bit more before making Sunnis scapegoats and Shias innocent.

You probably do not speak Arabic so showing you local sources would be pointless but what if I showed you a "well-respected" Western media channel who say exactly what I have said in this thread?

[al-arab]

Perhaps you do not realize how hard it is to find a job without any academic qualifications in the UK. Many of these soldiers have none.

I was referring to the ones who do have families to feed, not the few in it for the "thrill".

I do agree with your last point, however.

But it is their duty to get an education. Especially when they live in rich countries where all the opportunities to become an academic/get an education are available. Being an soldier is one thing but being a soldier who commit crimes against humanity is entirely different thing. Those two are in no way necessarily connected so I do not understand your arguments.

Apart from that they should have thought a bit more about what they exactly were doing in Iraq and why... But words like honor, responsibility, knowing right from wrong are foreign words for mercenaries, especially when being rednecks.

[al-arab]

Whether cheap or not we should both agree that there are other solutions than being a soldier who commits crimes against humanity?

I have not said that all soldiers are war criminals. I only commented on those two that were shown in the two videos. That said there are many others as they themselves have said. Certainly too many.

Before becoming a soldier you need to past some test as I am aware of. In terms of intelligency apart from physical tests. You really need to be brainwashed badly to kill civilian people for fun or because they "were angry" as the criminal (May Almighty Allah curse him if he truly does not regret his actions from the bottom of his heart).

Those people you might call brainwashed. I call them war criminals. Sadly enough they are not being punished nor in the land of the idiots nor in Iraq (where they with no doubt would face death, a rightious punishment for their horrible crimes).

[IamDZJ]

what was he expecting?? how do you become a soldier and not be aware of that part of your job where you will be required to kill people the majority of which will be innocent?

[abassinafghan]

al arab , yes the americans were defeated thats the reason bath party is again in charge , the kurds are not pamperd at all starve to death , iraqi oil fields are not sold off , and no there is no goverment installed which serves u.s interessts .

you know that kind of wrong pride and self denail is the reason why the world looks down on the arabs . and especially the ones like you .

[al-arab]

al arab , yes the americans were defeated thats the reason bath party is again in charge , the kurds are not pamperd at all starve to death , iraqi oil fields are not sold off , and no there is no goverment installed which serves u.s interessts .

you know that kind of wrong pride and self denail is the reason why the world looks down on the arabs . and especially the ones like you .

What are you now talking about?

Read my messages again. The fact is that usa nor their puppets ever controlled Iraq at any point in the war. That they were able to remove the former government is no achievement.

Those they have installed do not rule the country but rule it as much as the americans did.

Name me one oil field that is not under Iraqi control? Yes, there are unfortunately western firms who have made deals with the corrupt iraqi government but the vast majority of the oil money is going directly into the iraqi state. The problem is the corrupt leaders.

Why do you mention those Kurds who were traitors in the Iraq-Iran war? The Iranian kurds got the same punishment in Iran.

The current Iraqi government does indeed serve usa interest (unfortunately) as does the Afghan one. But when the Americans leave, Insha'Allah this will be future and especially when the puppet government will be removed.

Nuri al-Maliki may be a puppet but at least he is not as big a puppet of usa as Karzai. He has close ties with Iran but what gave him power (apart from corruption and support from shias) was his destruction of shia militias and the mahdi army in Basra in 2007.

Apart from that Arabs and Kurds (both are Sunnis, both share similar cultures) have always been close in Iraq and lived unproblematic before the Iraq-Iran war as I told you in another thread (intermarriages).

[graveyardofempires]

Iqar or Iraq?

anyway we love Iraq