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    Afghans don't feel sympathetic to Pakistan in the wake of the NATO strike that killed two dozen Pakistan soldiers:

    Afghan schadenfreude as Pakistan reels in wake of deadly NATO strike - CSMonitor.com

  • #2
    finally some good news

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    • #3
      Allah Akbar

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      • #4
        so thats it for the pashtun brotherhood i guess..since all of these soldiers were from local areas..anyways its really something to see the joyous reactions of people here on these killings
        It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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        • #5
          I want some more such strikes from NATO so that pakistani secular sold army and other secular leaders know how munafiq and disloyal america and their allies are.

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          • #6
            and to add to the OP, i doubt Afghan sympathy would bring us any good at this point

            NYT today
            After Attacks in Pakistan, Worries in Afghanistan About Security

            By ALISSA J. RUBIN and SALMAN MASOOD

            KABUL, Afghanistan — As investigations began on Sunday into the NATO attacks on two military outposts that killed at least 25 Pakistani soldiers, Afghan officials expressed concern about the possible long-term damage to regional security.
            Afghan Foreign Ministry officials on Sunday urged Pakistan to not follow through on threats to boycott a conference on Afghanistan’s future that is scheduled for Dec. 5 in Bonn, Germany. “We hope that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan will participate in the Bonn conference because the conference for us is the most important political event of the year,” a ministry spokesman, Janan Mosawi, said.
            Pakistan’s participation is considered vital, officials said, given the leverage that it maintains over some of the Taliban factions fighting inside Afghanistan.
            A spokeswoman of the Pakistani Ministry of Foreign Affairs said no decision had been made about attending the conference. “The matter is being examined,” the spokeswoman said.
            In Washington, American officials were trying to assess how the attacks had happened. According to preliminary reports, allied forces in Afghanistan engaged in a firefight along the border and called in airstrikes. Senior Obama administration officials were also weighing the implications on a relationship that took a sharp turn for the worse after a Navy Seal commando raid killed Osama bin Laden near Islamabad in May and that has deteriorated since then.
            NATO was also investigating after saying on Saturday it was likely that NATO-led airstrikes had led to the deaths of the Pakistani soldiers. “This was a tragic unintended incident,” the group’s secretary general, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, said in a statement. “We will determine what happened and draw the right lessons.”
            Pakistan’s foreign minister, Hina Rabbani Khar, called Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton on Sunday to convey the “deep sense of rage felt across Pakistan,” according to a government statement. The border attacks negate “the progress made by the two countries on improving relations and forces Pakistan to revisit the terms of engagement,” Ms. Khar was quoted as saying. Earlier, Pakistani military officials had called the attacks unprovoked acts of aggression by the United States.
            Pakistan buried the dead soldiers on Sunday as thousands of protesters gathered outside the American Consulate in Karachi. A Reuters reporter said the angry crowd shouted “Down with America,” and one man climbed on the wall surrounding the heavily fortified compound and attached a Pakistani flag to the barbed wire.
            One funeral, led by the army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, was held at the Corps Headquarters in Peshawar, the capital of Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa Province in northwest Pakistan near the site of the attacks. General Kayani also visited soldiers who were injured in the attacks.
            On Saturday, the Pakistani government ordered the Central Intelligence Agency to vacate the drone operations it runs from Shamsi Air Base in western Pakistan within 15 days. It also closed the two main NATO supply routes into Afghanistan, including the one at Torkham. NATO forces receive roughly 40 percent of their supplies through that crossing, which runs through the Khyber Pass, and Pakistan gave no estimate for how long the routes might be shut down.
            On Sunday, the state-run news media quoted Rehman Malik, the Pakistani interior minister, as saying that the NATO supply lines had “been stopped permanently.” Mr. Malik said NATO containers would not be allowed to cross the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.
            Hundreds of trucks remained stalled at border crossings, The Associated Press reported, leaving them vulnerable to militant attacks. About 150 trucks were destroyed during attacks about a year ago after Pakistan closed one Afghan border crossings for about 10 days in retaliation for a helicopter strike that killed two Pakistani soldiers.
            This time, The A.P. said, Pakistan has closed both its crossings, and nearly 300 trucks carrying coalition supplies were backed up at Torkham and at Chaman in Baluchistan Province in the southwest.
            The Pakistani government also lodged a protest with Afghanistan on Sunday about the “use of Afghan territory against Pakistan,” according to government officials. The Afghan government was urged to take steps to ensure such attacks would not be repeated.
            The Bonn conference, to which more than 50 countries are sending representatives, had been intended to showcase the international commitment to Afghanistan’s security as well as its sovereignty. If Pakistan, which is widely seen as a seedbed for many Afghan insurgents, refuses to participate, Western diplomats and military officials said, there would be little doubt that the insurgency would continue.
            Mr. Mosawi described the conference as important “in terms of the vision the Afghan government will be sharing with the international community, with the region in the 10 years after transition.”
            “Pakistan’s participation for us is extremely important. and we hope that they will continue as they have agreed to at the Foreign Ministry level in Bonn,” he said.
            Mr. Mosawi said that the Afghan government had been contacted by the Pakistani ambassador in Kabul, Afghanistan, but would not elaborate and did not respond to questions asking whether the Afghan government had been asked to take steps to limit NATO military activity on the Pakistani border.
            Alissa J. Rubin reported from Kabul, and Salman Masood from Islamabad.
            It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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            • #7
              On Sunday, the state-run news media quoted Rehman Malik, the Pakistani interior minister, as saying that the NATO supply lines had “been stopped permanently.” Mr. Malik said NATO containers would not be allowed to cross the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

              his time, The A.P. said, Pakistan has closed both its crossings, and nearly 300 trucks carrying coalition supplies were backed up at Torkham and at Chaman in Baluchistan Province

              I think Imran's pressure will force this to be a permanent end to cooperation and support for the US war and occupation of Afghanistan. http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=186344

              Thats my opinion. I think MK Bhadrakumar is right to say this is probably a complete split. Pakistan-US ties nosediving - Indian Punchline

              for peace and independence of Afghanistan, the complete stop of Pakistan's support for the US war and occupation is a must.
              Last edited by Guest; 11-27-2011, 04:57 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Talal View Post
                so thats it for the pashtun brotherhood i guess..since all of these soldiers were from local areas..anyways its really something to see the joyous reactions of people here on these killings
                where's the sympathy when Taliban sends a suicide bomber and kills innocent women and children?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                  where's the sympathy when Taliban sends a suicide bomber and kills innocent women and children?
                  or when pakis fire thousands of rockets and shells into afghan border provinces attempting to exert their hegemony

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                  • #10
                    Statement of NATO secretary general alludes to kiling of allied forces and afgans.
                    "i have written to the Prime Minister of Pakistan to make it clear that the deaths of Pakistani personnel are as unacceptable and deplorable as the deaths of Afghan and international personnel."
                    there was no call from obama or heads of NATO countries to pak PM and secretary General of NATO did not bother to call but just issued a statement and the NATO attack happened on the third anniversary of the mumbay attack by ISI trained terrorist.

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                    • #11
                      Finding it good news when Muslims are killed ?

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                      • #12
                        didnt you think it was good news when Gaddhafis forces were defeated? were they not Muslims?

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                        • #13
                          Let me express my view on this in numbered points as follows:

                          1) When a Suicide bomber trained in Pakistan blows himself up and kills many innocent Afghans, where is the Pakistani outcry?

                          2)When Afghanistan was constantly attacked by Jihadis during the 70's, all attacks were from Pakistan, where was the Pakistani out cry?

                          3)How come, 100s of Madrassah students pour into Afghanistan to kill Afghan soldiers from Pakistani registered Madrassahs, where is the Pakistani outcry?

                          4) When Zia Ul Haq once stated roughly to my knowledge "Without Pakistan, you(America) will never suceed in Afghanistan", where was the Pakistani outcry

                          5) When Pakistan makes peace deals with child killers(Taliban) in Waziristan, where is the Pakistani outcry?

                          6) When famous people like Imran Khan states the Haqqanis are the ticket to peace in Afghanistan, where is the Pakistani outcry.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MohannaD View Post
                            Finding it good news when Muslims are killed ?
                            What do you know about the current problems of my region. Has anyone of your relatives been brutalised because of a Suicide bomber from Pakistan?

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                            • #15
                              Pak army was shooting on Afghan police troops who were hunting Taliban and Haqqani members. The police called support from the US http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...317324992.html
                              http://tribune.com.pk/story/298827/p...-raid-reports/
                              ''The truth behind the accident''!

                              30 insurgents died in the battle with the police and 27 Paki losers died through the hand of their USrael masters. Damn, that feels good!

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