Islam4Europe.com about the permanent bases of America in Afghanistan in Pashto

[Maiwand]

Islam4Europe.com about the permanent bases of America in Afghanistan in Pashto. Why do always superpowers attack Afghanistan and occupy our territory, what is their ultimate goal?

[badmash_khel]

Unfortunately Afghanistan's biggest asset and the cause of misfortune is and has been its geographic location. Combine that with the emergence of islamic emirate, oil pipeline, rise of china, mineral wealth and a few other factors, you get the idea why Afghanistan is so important.

[Maiwand]

Britain has lost the war in Afghanistan and is pulling its troops out of the quagmire!

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

Gone are the days when great global superpowers such as the British Empire and the American Empire want to take over Afghanistan. Now even third-rate failing states such as Pakistan and idiotic theocracies such as Iran want to enslave Afghans.

And the argument that these bad kuffar attack Afghanistan because they don't want to see prosperous Islamic state is so absurd that it doesn't even deserve a rebuttal. The enemies of Afghanistan would be very pleased to see it return to the stone ages and they wouldn't stop it from committing that suicide once again.

You have a very simplistic world-view, unfortunately. Global powers have butchered fellow white Christians mercilessly for hundreds of years for the sake of power. They're now expanding their power here because we are defenseless against their wealth and technology. This has nothing to do with our beliefs.

Lastly, Afghans want Islam. You're right. They want an Islamic state. And that's why they don't want the Taliban and their khawariji beliefs that they package as Islam.

[Al Hanif]

Gone are the days when great global superpowers such as the British Empire and the American Empire want to take over Afghanistan. Now even third-rate failing states such as Pakistan and idiotic theocracies such as Iran want to enslave Afghans.

And the argument that these bad kuffar attack Afghanistan because they don't want to see prosperous Islamic state is so absurd that it doesn't even deserve a rebuttal. The enemies of Afghanistan would be very pleased to see it return to the stone ages and they wouldn't stop it from committing that suicide once again.

You have a very simplistic world-view, unfortunately. Global powers have butchered fellow white Christians mercilessly for hundreds of years for the sake of power. They're now expanding their power here because we are defenseless against their wealth and technology. This has nothing to do with our beliefs.

Lastly, Afghans want Islam. You're right. They want an Islamic state. And that's why they don't want the Taliban and their khawariji beliefs that they package as Islam.

You are being delusional on all points.

Americans attacked Afghanistan because and only because of Islam. Americans said it. Talibans said it. Only stupid commies with an IQ lower than a lobster's can't understand that.

Afghans want Talibans. Either way Talibans would never have last 10 years against USA, NATO, ANA and local population. They would have never penetrated in Hotels, in most protected places of Kabul, infiltrated Police, infiltrated the military. Keep your head buried in the sand and live in the 70s. Communism died a long time ago. It was defeated by Islam. Islam is still here. I understand your frustration.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

You are being delusional on all points.

Americans attacked Afghanistan because and only because of Islam. Americans said it. Talibans said it. Only stupid commies with an IQ lower than a lobster's can't understand that.

Afghans want Talibans. Either way Talibans would never have last 10 years against USA, NATO, ANA and local population. They would have never penetrated in Hotels, in most protected places of Kabul, infiltrated Police, infiltrated the military. Keep your head buried in the sand and live in the 70s. Communism died a long time ago. It was defeated by Islam. Islam is still here. I understand your frustration.

What does my post have to do with Communism?

You also have a very oversimplified and childish view of the world. To make matters worse, you are a migrant Arab living in France who knows nothing about Pashtun affairs and our regional dynamics.

You take into account one factor and ignore the remaining ten.

The world is made up of states. International law is weak and therefore, the international scene is anarchic in nature. In that anarchy, these states function as institutions that eternally vie for power. They make choices that increase their power the most whilst hurting them the least. In some cases, they use soft power and in some cases, they adopt hard power to increase their prestige. Factors such as religion, race and ideology are irrelevant to states and their pursuit of power. These are the bases upon which our understanding of the modern world and its politics are based. Had you attended a university instead of living like a second-class and marginalized person abroad, you would have known all of this. Here, read some more.

Even ideological states such as the USSR, China and Iran make rational decisions and they don't attack states because "they are afraid of Islam". The Soviets supported the fascists against the Communists during the Spanish Civil War. The Chinese warmed up to Nixon despite their earlier anti-capitalist rhetoric because it suited their national interest. Similarly, Iran makes it foreign policy decisions based on the rational actor model and not upon what the Imam or the Ayatollah hears from Jinns.

To think that the US is spending trillions of dollars and is using intense diplomacy where bomb fail only because it is afraid that a successful Islamic state will come into power in Afghanistan and that would somehow hurt the US is naive at best. If that were the case then the center of global extremism (Saudi Arabia) would have been eliminated decades ago.

[Al Hanif]

What does my post have to do with Communism?
You also have a very oversimplified and childish view of the world.

lawl

To make matters worse, you are a migrant Arab living in France

Too bad I am not an Arab, nor a migrant. I am a French born in France of Berber descent.
I thought you were an educated person. How it comes that a muslim like me can understand the difference between a Pashtun and an Arab and you don't even know the difference between an Arab and a Berber ? Another proof if needed that commies are stupid.

who knows nothing about Pashtun affairs and our regional dynamics.

You are a communist, therfore you have no place in a serious discussion in the 21st century.

You take into account one factor and ignore the remaining ten.

The world is made up of states. International law is weak and therefore, the international scene is anarchic in nature. In that anarchy, these states function as institutions that eternally vie for power. They make choices that increase their power the most whilst hurting them the least. In some cases, they use soft power and in some cases, they adopt hard power to increase their prestige. Factors such as religion, race and ideology are irrelevant to states and their pursuit of power. These are the bases upon which our understanding of the modern world and its politics are based. Had you attended a university instead of living like a second-class and marginalized person abroad, you would have known all of this. Here, read some more.

lawl The amounts of frustation in this part is off the charts.

What you said is utter BS and the result of years of indoctrination (maybe it comes from your father a close friend of Najibullah who was a genocidal maniac)

What rules the world is not countries as your little commie brain thinks. What rules the world is and has always been religion.

Currently religion rules the world in the form of political ideologies :

Atheist ideology by Freemasons (human rights, democracy, secularism, globalism...)

Zionist ideology by Jews (neo-conservative christians, AIPAC, WASP zionists, banks, sayanims...)

Islamic Ideology by Muslims (Al Qaeda, Islamic Fundamentalism,...)

Currently those three Political Ideologies are competing in the world. The two first ones made an alliance but the last one is trying to resist to their hegemony. America doesn't care about America, all it cares about is globalism.

you make a good zionist sheep. You seem to have accepted the most blatant disregard of reality. I see there is no capacity to reason with you with sustained argument and intellect, for your jew brain will perform mental gymnastics to ensure that you believe you are right.

I urge all the other people reading this to see this video where an american veteran tells the truth.

Israel and the Upcoming Nuclear War! - YouTube

Even ideological states such as the USSR, China and Iran make rational decisions and they don't attack states because "they are afraid of Islam". The Soviets supported the fascists against the Communists during the Spanish Civil War. The Chinese warmed up to Nixon despite their earlier anti-capitalist rhetoric because it suited their national interest. Similarly, Iran makes it foreign policy decisions based on the rational actor model and not upon what the Imam or the Ayatollah hears from Jinns.

You funny guy ! I'm pretty sur I'll find the strategic reasons of countries' decisions on wikipedia lol

To think that the US is spending trillions of dollars and is using intense diplomacy where bomb fail only because it is afraid that a successful Islamic state will come into power in Afghanistan and that would somehow hurt the US is naive at best. If that were the case then the center of global extremism (Saudi Arabia) would have been eliminated decades ago.

as BarakzaiAbdali says Looooooooooooooooooooooool !

i'd even say LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO


Saudi Arabia is the contrary of the center of extremism

Your ignorance is bliss, Saudi Arabia is ruled by freemasons

Where did Abdullah Saleh went when Islamists tryed to overthrow him from Yemen ?

He went to Saudi Arabia.

Where did Ben Ali dictator who forbade hijab Islamic parties went to exile ?

Saudi Arabia.

You uneducated brainwashed commie, you should open your eyes some day. We are living in the 21st century !

The Battle Of Faiths (Islam Christianity Judaism Atheism Hinduism Buddhism) - YouTube


The only positive thing communism has brought was anthems.

But no anthem is loud enough to cover the screams of the millions of people killed in the name of Lenin

[SiiNii]

Hanif - you obviously have a thirst for knowledge. And you can speak at least three languages so we know you're above average in intelligence. You're also fortunate to have been born in a stable 1st world country with a great educational system and high broadband internet connectivity.

What's better for your cause, an uneducated Mujahid, or an educated one?

Why don't you take a short break from philosophizing on these forums and writing love poems to your mother, and instead get the best general education you can on a wide range of subjects, while your brain is still at an age where it can learn and retain lots of new information.

While you're out and about learning, who knows, you might even meet the perfect woman...

[abassinafghan]

arab wanna be berber , leave me and my country alone , and spare us with your stupid nonsence kid , do you really try us to show how afghanistan works ?

how many times and how long have you been there ?

you dont even speak pashto , get a live . and now get out of here .

and take care of this millions of northafrican girls in france who missbehave , its much better goal .

[Al Hanif]

arab wanna be berber , leave me and my country alone , and spare us with your stupid nonsence kid , do you really try us to show how afghanistan works ?

how many times and how long have you been there ?

you dont even speak pashto , get a live . and now get out of here .

and take care of this millions of northafrican girls in france who missbehave , its much better goal .

wow congratulations, I've rarely seen so many fallacious arguments in a single post

[abassinafghan]

boy , i guess you are what i considerd a troll , you dont have friends in reality and none in the net .

what do you want ?

i mean you are not interessted in your own culutre let alone afghan and pashtun culture .

you are not interessted in the pashtun language or to learn it .

you are not interessted in afghan history or pashtun history .

the only thing we hear from you " taliban are good muslims and they fight for islam against america " above this you call here every one kafir and communist or what ever . and then you try to tell us what we have to do ?

get real and now take care of this french berber female minister of sarkozy who was pregnant but without an husband , she needs your help away more than we do

[unknownprince]

These militant communists/secular are responsible for all of Afghanistan's wars

Remember it was them who killed Daud Khan, the murderers of Daud Khan

The militant secularist/communist today uses the term "Arab friend" to term opposition to the US occupation as foreign. The problem for them is there are in fact very few foreign fighters in Afghanistan according to Dr. Pape (university of chicago).

US has over 40 allies and has lost this war whether they leave today or tomorrow. As for the money they spent, that's called money lost.

Afghans get their way.

It is logical to understand that there will be no peace as long as there is a US occupation.

The US occupation is the sole barrier to peace and is the reason Afghans fight

[Al Hanif]

boy , i guess you are what i considerd a troll , you dont have friends in reality and none in the net .

Would you like to be my friend then ?

what do you want ?

We want black power.

i mean you are not interessted in your own culutre let alone afghan and pashtun culture .

Indeed, I absolutely do not care about culture. Everything is condemned to disappear and there will only subsist the 'wajh' of Allah SWT. All those interests about culture are futile. So are those interests for money, races, tribal lineage and political ideologies. My culture is the history of the prophets (peace be upon them). Nationalism is shirk. And the Ummah is one.

you are not interessted in the pashtun language or to learn it .

No.

you are not interessted in afghan history or pashtun history .

I am interested in muslim history. And many Pashtuns were muslims.

the only thing we hear from you " taliban are good muslims and they fight for islam against america "

I never said they were good muslims but the fact they are muslim is undeniable.
And so is the fact that the traitors cooperating with kuffars in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan are not muslims.
And it is the truth that Talibans fight for Islam against America.

above this you call here every one kafir

Not everyone. The people who have clear kufr belief.

and communist or what ever . and then you try to tell us what we have to do ?

don't tell me that you're a commie too ?

get real and now take care of this french berber female minister of sarkozy who was pregnant but without an husband , she needs your help away more than we do

okay

[unknownprince]

[QUOTE]

Gone are the days when great global superpowers such as the British Empire and the American Empire want to take over Afghanistan.

It is a historical fact that the US, Britain, and 50 other allied nations went to war in Afghanistan since 2001. Gone are the days? The US also started a war with Iraq, and are leaving in a month, after millions of Iraqis have been killed.

Now even third-rate failing states such as Pakistan and idiotic theocracies such as Iran want to enslave Afghans.

Afghans will never tolerate foreign occupation. Just because regional nations (who in fact have been supporting the US war and occupation by recognizing Karzai) now have a change of mind and are opposed to the US occupation and war, it is irrelevant to the rights of Afghans to be against the occupation of their land.

And the argument that these bad kuffar attack Afghanistan because they don't want to see prosperous Islamic state is so absurd that it doesn't even deserve a rebuttal.

Please provide a rebuttal. The US do not want any Sharia government forming in the Muslim world as it goes against their interests. This is in fact a stated objective, and as of recent has become the norm of public discourse for US politicians. Here is what Republican hopeful Newt Gingrich, also a neocon/warhwak said a few days ago in fact. http://bigpeace.com/abostom/2011/11/...ot-be-greater/

"Sharia in its natural form has principles and punishments totally abhorrent to the Western world, and the underlying basic belief which is that law comes directly from God and is therefore imposed upon humans and no human can change the law without it being an act of apostasy is a fundamental violation of a tradition in the Western system which goes back to Rome, Athens, and Jerusalem and which has evolved in giving us freedom across the planet on a scale we can hardly imagine and which is now directly threatened by those who would impose it.

Moreover, Gingrich warned about efforts—deliberate, or unwitting–to represent Sharia as a benign system:

So let me also be quite clear that the rules are radical and horrific. I think again it’s fascinating that even when people go out and do polling and they say to, for example, Muslims in general, do you believe in Sharia, they don’t then explain what Sharia is. Sharia becomes like would you like to be a Rotarian and it sounds okay."

The enemies of Afghanistan would be very pleased to see it return to the stone ages and they wouldn't stop it from committing that suicide once again.

You mean the Militant Secularist/Communists, those who killed Daud Khan because he was not secular enough? The assassination of Daud Khan by militant communists, and the subsequent Communist Revolution was the start point for Afghanistan wars that have lasted till this very day in fact. Compare it to a reference point when discussing Afghanistan's current situation.

You have a very simplistic world-view, unfortunately. Global powers have butchered fellow white Christians mercilessly for hundreds of years for the sake of power.

Which global powers are these of recent? The last few hundred years have seen Europe engage in the Holocaust and Pogroms against the Jews, the Americans engage in a genocide against the Native Americans, the Americans engaged in slavery of the black people, and now the subsequent meddling and wars in the Muslim world, the greater East, and the rest of civilized people of the world with an emphasis on 1953 when Mossadeq of Iran was overthrown by the US (for nationalizing OIL), and the hated Shah was installed. Even prior to that significant event, the West has been needlessly interfering and propping up tyrants to oppress the people in that region.

They're now expanding their power here because we are defenseless against their wealth and technology. This has nothing to do with our beliefs.

Power? The US indeed used to be a very powerful nation, but this was back in the 1970s to 1990s. Those days are long gone. The US and Western economies have literally collapsed in all but an official admission. Britain draws up emergency plans for collapse of Euro as warnings Italy needs £500bn bailout | Mail Online The Decline and Fall of the American Empire | The Nation

Lastly, Afghans want Islam. You're right. They want an Islamic state. And that's why they don't want the Taliban and their khawariji beliefs that they package as Islam.

Afghans want an end to the US war and the US occupation of their homeland. There will be no peace as long as there is a US occupation. Logically, this only makes sense. No nation in the world, no people will tolerate occupation.

[al-arab]

These militant communists/secular are responsible for all of Afghanistan's wars

Remember it was them who killed Daud Khan, the murderers of Daud Khan

The militant secularist/communist today uses the term "Arab friend" to term opposition to the US occupation as foreign. The problem for them is there are in fact very few foreign fighters in Afghanistan according to Dr. Pape (university of chicago).

US has over 40 allies and has lost this war whether they leave today or tomorrow. As for the money they spent, that's called money lost.

Afghans get their way.

It is logical to understand that there will be no peace as long as there is a US occupation.

The US occupation is the sole barrier to peace and is the reason Afghans fight

Exactly.

I can't stop laughing when I see the two communists in action (Soldat-Amir and his friend with the Lenin avatar).

Especially when the latter lectures people on how bad the British Empire and USA both are/were. Has he forgot the Soviet Unions killings of millions of people and especially Muslims?

"The Soviets supported the fascists against the Communists during the Spanish Civil War".

Is this claim for real? I think you need to read a little bit more about the Spanish Civil War. And yes, I happen to know Spanish reasonably well.

And why do you claim to be a Muslim when you are a self-confessed communist and have Lenin as a avatar?

Communists is the most Un-Islamic ideology there is.