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  • #16
    America's fascination with human rights

    In 1941, at the University of Michigan, doctors Francis and Salk and other researchers deliberately infected patients at several Michigan mental institutions with the influenza virus by spraying the virus into their nasal passages.

    In 1941 Dr. William C. Black inoculated a twelve month old baby with herpes.

    The Stateville Penitentiary Malaria Study was a controlled study of the effects of malaria on the prisoners of Stateville Penitentiary near Joliet, Illinois beginning in the 1940s. The study was conducted by the Department of Medicine at the University of Chicago in conjunction with the United States Army and the State Department. At the Nuremberg trials, Nazi doctors cited the malaria experiments as part of their defense.[3] The study continued at Stateville Penitentiary for 29 years.

    From 1944 to 1946, Dr. Alf Alving, a professor at the University of Chicago Medical School, purposely infected psychiatric patients at the Illinois State Hospital with malaria, so that he could test experimental malaria treatments on them.

    In 1950 the US Navy used airplanes to spray large quantities of the bacteria serratia marcescens over the city of San Francisco, California, which caused numerous citizens to contract pneumonia-like illnesses, and killed at least one person.

    Also in 1950, Dr. Joseph Stokes of the University of Pennsylvania deliberately infected 200 female prisoners with viral hepatitis.

    From the 1950s to 1972, mentally disabled children at the Willowbrook School in New York were intentionally infected with viral hepatitis, in research whose purpose was to help discover a vaccine. The test subjects were forced to participate in the experiments as a condition for admission to the institution.

    In 1952, Sloan-Kettering Institute researcher Chester M. Southam injected live cancer cells into prisoners at the Ohio State Prison. Half of the prisoners in this NIH-sponsored study were black.[4] Also at Sloan-Kettering, 300 healthy women were injected with live cancer cells, without telling the patients they were doing so. The doctors claimed that they knew at the time that it might cause cancer.

    In 1955, the CIA conducted a biological warfare experiment where they released whooping cough bacteria from boats outside of Tampa Bay, Florida, causing a whooping cough epidemic in the city, and killing at least 12 people.

    In 1956 and 1957, several U.S. Army biological warfare experiments were conducted on the cities of Savannah, Georgia and Avon Park, Florida. In the experiments, Army bio-warfare researchers released millions of mosquitoes on the two towns, in order to see if the insects would spread yellow fever and dengue fever. Hundreds of residents contracted a wide array of illnesses, including fevers, respiratory problems, stillbirths, encephalitis, and typhoid. Army researchers pretended to be public health workers, so that they could photograph and perform medical tests on the victims. Several people died as a result of the experiments.

    In 1962, twenty-two elderly patients at the Jewish Chronic Disease Hospital in Brooklyn, New York were injected with live cancer cells, by Chester M. Southam, who in 1952 had done the same to prisoners at the Ohio State Prison, in order to "discover the secret of how healthy bodies fight the invasion of malignant cells". The administration of the hospital attempted to cover the study up, but the New York State medical licensing board ultimately placed Southam on probation for one year. Two years later, the American Cancer Society elected him as their Vice President.

    From 1963 to 1966, Saul Krugman of New York University promised the parents of mentally disabled children that their children would be enrolled into the Willowbrook State School in Staten Island, New York, in exchange for signing a consent form for procedures that he claimed were "vaccinations." In reality, the procedures involved deliberately infecting children with viral hepatitis by feeding them an extract made from the feces of patients infected with the disease.

    In 1966, the U.S. Army released bacillus globigii into the tunnels of the New York subway system as part of a field study called A Study of the Vulnerability of Subway Passengers in New York City to Covert Attack with Biological Agents. The Chicago subway system was also subject to a similar experiment by the Army.
    O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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    • #17
      Depleted uranium is considered a weapon of mass destruction and is banned for use in warfare by international law, yet the US and Israel use it routinely.

      The US military has used thousands of tons of depleted uranium in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Kuwait and Iraq sickening civilians and its own soldiers by the tens of thousands.

      Depleted uranium contaminates food, water, air and land forever. It's the ultimate "dirty bomb."

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      • #18
        Human rights in practice

        In 1941, at the University of Michigan, doctors Francis and Salk and other researchers deliberately infected patients at several Michigan mental institutions with the influenza virus by spraying the virus into their nasal passages.

        In 1941 Dr. William C. Black inoculated a twelve month old baby with herpes.

        The Stateville Penitentiary Malaria Study was a controlled study of the effects of malaria on the prisoners of Stateville Penitentiary near Joliet, Illinois beginning in the 1940s. The study was conducted by the Department of Medicine at the University of Chicago in conjunction with the United States Army and the State Department. At the Nuremberg trials, Nazi doctors cited the malaria experiments as part of their defense.[3] The study continued at Stateville Penitentiary for 29 years.

        From 1944 to 1946, Dr. Alf Alving, a professor at the University of Chicago Medical School, purposely infected psychiatric patients at the Illinois State Hospital with malaria, so that he could test experimental malaria treatments on them.

        In 1950 the US Navy used airplanes to spray large quantities of the bacteria serratia marcescens over the city of San Francisco, California, which caused numerous citizens to contract pneumonia-like illnesses, and killed at least one person.

        Also in 1950, Dr. Joseph Stokes of the University of Pennsylvania deliberately infected 200 female prisoners with viral hepatitis.

        From the 1950s to 1972, mentally disabled children at the Willowbrook School in New York were intentionally infected with viral hepatitis, in research whose purpose was to help discover a vaccine. The test subjects were forced to participate in the experiments as a condition for admission to the institution.

        In 1952, Sloan-Kettering Institute researcher Chester M. Southam injected live cancer cells into prisoners at the Ohio State Prison. Half of the prisoners in this NIH-sponsored study were black.[4] Also at Sloan-Kettering, 300 healthy women were injected with live cancer cells, without telling the patients they were doing so. The doctors claimed that they knew at the time that it might cause cancer.

        In 1955, the CIA conducted a biological warfare experiment where they released whooping cough bacteria from boats outside of Tampa Bay, Florida, causing a whooping cough epidemic in the city, and killing at least 12 people.

        In 1956 and 1957, several U.S. Army biological warfare experiments were conducted on the cities of Savannah, Georgia and Avon Park, Florida. In the experiments, Army bio-warfare researchers released millions of mosquitoes on the two towns, in order to see if the insects would spread yellow fever and dengue fever. Hundreds of residents contracted a wide array of illnesses, including fevers, respiratory problems, stillbirths, encephalitis, and typhoid. Army researchers pretended to be public health workers, so that they could photograph and perform medical tests on the victims. Several people died as a result of the experiments.

        In 1962, twenty-two elderly patients at the Jewish Chronic Disease Hospital in Brooklyn, New York were injected with live cancer cells, by Chester M. Southam, who in 1952 had done the same to prisoners at the Ohio State Prison, in order to "discover the secret of how healthy bodies fight the invasion of malignant cells". The administration of the hospital attempted to cover the study up, but the New York State medical licensing board ultimately placed Southam on probation for one year. Two years later, the American Cancer Society elected him as their Vice President.

        From 1963 to 1966, Saul Krugman of New York University promised the parents of mentally disabled children that their children would be enrolled into the Willowbrook State School in Staten Island, New York, in exchange for signing a consent form for procedures that he claimed were "vaccinations." In reality, the procedures involved deliberately infecting children with viral hepatitis by feeding them an extract made from the feces of patients infected with the disease.

        In 1966, the U.S. Army released bacillus globigii into the tunnels of the New York subway system as part of a field study called A Study of the Vulnerability of Subway Passengers in New York City to Covert Attack with Biological Agents. The Chicago subway system was also subject to a similar experiment by the Army.
        O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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        • #19
          Isn't it strange how the pioneers of human rights fail to post in these threads, yet they have posted hundreds of times in other threads accusing Islam and muslims of violation of human rights?
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          • #20
            Isnt it strange, how america is a abuser of Human rights,yet the Afghan Mujahideen openly hugged and shooked hands with the likes of charlie wilson and other CIA/Army military people.

            There was a day, when Muslims such as you, proudly called Christians and so as one of the people of the book, and supported their game against the Communists, but now your friend has turned on you to some extent, all of the Anti-Americanism?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View Post
              Isnt it strange, how america is a abuser of Human rights,yet the Afghan Mujahideen openly hugged and shooked hands with the likes of charlie wilson and other CIA/Army military people.

              There was a day, when Muslims such as you, proudly called Christians and so as one of the people of the book, and supported their game against the Communists, but now your friend has turned on you to some extent, all of the Anti-Americanism?
              Did the people of the book back in the 80's bomb us with depleted uranium? Did they gang rape our women back then in the 80's?

              Did they help warlords and mass murderers of northern alliance to make up armies and police force to invade our homes and dishonor our women and destroy our livelihood and lock us up in prisons and torture us?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Samima
                Well, you cant cherry pick a situation. I argue that Human rights should exist. And it exists in the USA as compared to Afghanistan.
                Yousefzai's post suffices for you

                Originally posted by Yusufzai
                America talks of human rights only in it's own ountry.

                outside there country they are unethical,dishonered savage beasts.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Samima
                  That did not answer my question. There is a reason why you cant/wont live in Afghanistan
                  Yes, because America is arming and helping thieves and looters to power. That's why people run away from Afghanistan because they don't like paying bribes every morning on the way to work to pass check-points or to pay bribes in the evening on the way home to pass the same checkpoints.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Azmatullah View Post
                    So true. Isn't it strange, how they can invade other countries and murder as many civilians as they like, but somehow, they are not the terrorists.??
                    Make our pro-human right activists understand this.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Azmatullah View Post
                      So true. Isn't it strange, how they can invade other countries and murder as many civilians as they like, but somehow, they are not the terrorists.??
                      The problem is with your understanding of both the definition of terrorist, and the motivation behind these 'invasions'.

                      You are deliberately confusing acts of war, collateral damage, and horrible (but non-deliberate) tragedies with acts of terrorism.

                      Yes, the US has committed atrocities at times, but not all atrocities are terrorism. While the US can, and should be working to reduce these atrocities, ignoring terrorism, and human rights violations in foreign lands, just to focus on the minor ones 'at home' is, itself, an atrocity.
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                      "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                      "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                      أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
                      (I'm sorry, I do not read or speak Arabic. I will make an effort to translate with Google translate. Please be understanding of this barrier.)

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by akbarkhan View Post
                        US has used mini nuke war heads in Afghanistan.

                        Is it 'mini nuke warheads', or is it 'depleted uranium'? The two are different, and not even close to the same thing.

                        While I have heard claims of depleted uranium weapons being used, I have not heard of nukes actually being fired. Many of the sources for stories about uranium exposure in Afghanistan also neglect to mention the fact that uranium is a naturally occurring element find in drinking water in the area.

                        Could we have some sources to see where you are getting your information? All I can find on a *quick* google is story after story discussing how these claims have been found by the UN to have no basis.
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                        "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                        "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                        أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ozymandias View Post
                          The problem is with your understanding of both the definition of terrorist, and the motivation behind these 'invasions'.

                          You are deliberately confusing acts of war, collateral damage, and horrible (but non-deliberate) tragedies with acts of terrorism.

                          Yes, the US has committed atrocities at times, but not all atrocities are terrorism. While the US can, and should be working to reduce these atrocities, ignoring terrorism, and human rights violations in foreign lands, just to focus on the minor ones 'at home' is, itself, an atrocity.
                          Yes, but US is committing grave atrocities in the name of human rights. The US is responsible for the murder of over 1 million Iraqis. I don't see you going about making a case against US for causing so much death.

                          This is because you disbelievers in Islam are hypocrites. You neglect the crimes and sins of disbelievers but you have hatred and animosity for the Muslims and accuse them generally for the individual sins of some among them.

                          This is a typical trait of the disbelieving. Hypocrisy.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                            Isn't it strange how the pioneers of human rights fail to post in these threads, yet they have posted hundreds of times in other threads accusing Islam and muslims of violation of human rights?
                            Isn't it strange how this is in a different forum, and only started a bit over 18 hours ago, while some of the other threads you are discussing are weeks if not months old?
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                            "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                            "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                            أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                              Yes, but US is committing grave atrocities in the name of human rights. The US is responsible for the murder of over 1 million Iraqis. I don't see you going about making a case against US for causing so much death.
                              I post primarily on the religion section of a primarily Muslim board -- there is enough hatred and abuse of the US that I don't need to bring it up -- and it would just be talk. Not many here are in power to change the course of the US, so I go to other venues to make those changes. Many here, do, however, have the ability to change the course of Islam -- so I discuss that. I know how you feel about the US, I don't need to learn why you condemn it's actions -- in many times I agree with you. I don't understand how you can support the violations of human rights -- so I ask about that -- to learn.


                              This is because you disbelievers in Islam are hypocrites. You neglect the crimes and sins of disbelievers but you have hatred and animosity for the Muslims and accuse them generally for the individual sins of some among them.
                              Sorry you feel the need to resort to lies about me -- or are you confused as to my posting history? I have not once ignored or even downplayed the 'crimes' of the US, I simply try to bring both sides to the table and encourage an open, intelligent discussion, since the population is very biased on one side of this issue.


                              This is a typical trait of the disbelieving. Hypocrisy.
                              IT seems to be a universal trait -- as the 'believeing' have it, too, as you so clearly show. Thank you for that.
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                              "There was so much to grok, so little to grok from. "

                              "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

                              أنا آسف ، أنا لا أقرأ أو لا يتكلم اللغة العربية. وسوف تبذل جهدا لترجمة مع ترجمة جوجل. يرجى أن يكون فهم من هذا الحاجز.
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                              • #30
                                the bone of contention in Pak-Afghan-India is actually USA. Having stratigic interests with this region to beat actually CHINA.
                                But InshaAllah China will beat USA very sooooon
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