Some 3,000 Afghans protest against long-term U.S. deal

[BarakzaiAbdali]

What was the claim? There were elsewhere protests, too?

Illogical comment. Intially you said it was organized by the ISI and that th article was written by them. It took Karzai weeks, with Mojadidi's help to get 2000 people who barely suppport bases and it took Nangrahar less than a week in a peaceful province. You also forget that those that carry guns and fight add a few more thousand. In regard to others protesting to the jirga itself, but necessarily bases, Abdullah Abdullah and his group disputed the jirga occurence itself.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Besides posting DP's of Pagan Monks, Afghansitan2010 would never leave the luxurious west, his cosy and warm bed and his safe protected life under unbiased laws, which Talib would want to do that.

However, what irritates me, is that his "sort", like to preach to the poor while enjoy the luxury, this is what Karl Marx was spot on about, he was right in this "aspect", take Tariq Jameel, the spiritual leader of the Tablighi Jamat, when the floods happened in Pakhtunkhwa, this lunatic stated it happened because "God was angry at the poor not praying enough" and that "God's mood comes in the form of weather" kind of reminds me of those American crazy evangelicals who would run away and screem "Jesus is angry at the people of New Orleans".

Those Talibs are not free, anyone with logical mind, can see, these Talibs run to the same Pakistan for

1)Rest and recovery
2)Medical attention
3)Weapons
4)Ideology(Darol ul Haqqania/Binori Masjid/Lal Masjid.

Everyone in Pakhtunkhwa knows, Talib militants get treated in Peshawer Hospital, same in Waziristan, especially in Miram Shah Hospital, your telling me nobody knows in the Pakistan government about an "Injured Arab militant".

Without Pakistan, there is no Taliban, for years the Taliban worked with the ISI very openly until the Yanks distrupted Pakistani games in Afghanistan.

Most of these Talib supporters love Western technology, even Mullah Zaeef loves his Iphone.

They preach about the ills of Modern Western technologies, the TV, Music and even kite flying, but they themselves love to use Western Technoligical equipment to record their beheadings, suicide bombing missions and to use wireless sets to set off bombs in markets.

The West in my opinion is too soft on such people.

Wrong and 1/2 right.

Wrong in that its actually a canard you use, but it doesnt work here any more. Dont you realize that you and Toramana sound like broken records with this commentary to your supporters? Its laughable.

Here's why:

1) You claim Islamists want to hoist an alien ideology onto Afghanistan (inaccurate claim) yet you sought to hoist the wahhabist form of communism (Leninist Communism) initially and now seek to hoist secular democratic capitalism. Yet you ignore the rich history of how western powers developed this system and just how long it took.

2) You live in the west and your background is actually a deeper contradiction. Years ago you and your dad supported atheistic communistic anti capitalistic systems being hoisted onto the Afghan people by PDPA etc. Now you live in Britain, a bastion of secular, but not atheistic capitalism. Go live in North Korea, go live in the People republic of china and live as the intellectual youth did in the provinces of Mongolia if you want to live marx's dream. So the laughable deal here is that you actually are an equal hypocrite in this regard.

3) Go join the ANA since you seek to turn young men into brutal killers. Join the ANA as Mr. karzai needs Pashtun recruits since his army is failing in that regard.

4) Regarding the love of technology, tahts exactly what the CIA uncovered. Scheuers work at Central Intelligence shows that Muslims world around have a deep respect for American systems, even ideologies, technology prowess, and the American people. The best surveys done though, with hte highest power (highest sample size) show that its American policies and propping up of tyrannies they resent. So your point actually unproves your earlier futile, meritless meanderings you had here... which was that these folks are anti all things Western, including modernization.

Bottom line: the canard doesnt work. Keep posting it like a broken record and we can just keep posting this as a cut and paste in response. Otherwise make good. Strap up, grab your M16 join the ANA or even the North Koreans and live the life you advocate.

Regarding the West and being tough.... why not help them out? After all, why should Timmy English die for a struggle that has nothing to do with him really when its all distilled down? Go join the royal marines and go in his place Soldat!

[Afghanistan2010]

Do not ask me what I have done for Afghanistan. Ask that to yourself, you Munafeeq. If they would fight against ''occupiers'', why don´t they fight with Pakistani Army, ISI, TTP and other terrorists? Why don´t they establish their sharia state first in Pakistan? Because they are Pakis tools! Now go spend your life on the next fast food corner and clean your oil station

TTP is an insurgents group and not regarded by the islamic emirate of afghanistan as terrorist organisation.
They fight for shariah in pakistan.

They targeted ISI , CIA (the Khost raid by the cia destroyer killing 7 directly including an jordanian agent and wounding numerous others.); NATO tankers,NATO supplies,Pakistani army , Pakistani government employees , and the last thing i dont agree even if the people are on wrong path of islam (the graveworshippers on tombs).


Terrorist Organisation are the following according to the rulings of Ahlus Sunnah and the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan :

1. USA
2. NATO members except for Turkey
3. Russia
4. Chinese Government (responsible for crimes in Xinjang against our Uyghur brothers)
5. ISI
6. CIA,FBI and other intel agencies of the US government
7. Israel and Mossad
8. and some more.

Apostate governments (legitmate targets):

1. Pakistani government and army,
2. Every Arab governments and armies,including the Royal families except for Palestine.
3. Iranian government and army including the Revolutionary Brigades.
4. Shia militas in Iraq and elsewhere

[Afghanistan2010]

Wrong and 1/2 right.

Wrong in that its actually a canard you use, but it doesnt work here any more. Dont you realize that you and Toramana sound like broken records with this commentary to your supporters? Its laughable.

Here's why:

1) You claim Islamists want to hoist an alien ideology onto Afghanistan (inaccurate claim) yet you sought to hoist the wahhabist form of communism (Leninist Communism) initially and now seek to hoist secular democratic capitalism. Yet you ignore the rich history of how western powers developed this system and just how long it took.

2) You live in the west and your background is actually a deeper contradiction. Years ago you and your dad supported atheistic communistic anti capitalistic systems being hoisted onto the Afghan people by PDPA etc. Now you live in Britain, a bastion of secular, but not atheistic capitalism. Go live in North Korea, go live in the People republic of china and live as the intellectual youth did in the provinces of Mongolia if you want to live marx's dream. So the laughable deal here is that you actually are an equal hypocrite in this regard.

3) Go join the ANA since you seek to turn young men into brutal killers. Join the ANA as Mr. karzai needs Pashtun recruits since his army is failing in that regard.

4) Regarding the love of technology, tahts exactly what the CIA uncovered. Scheuers work at Central Intelligence shows that Muslims world around have a deep respect for American systems, even ideologies, technology prowess, and the American people. The best surveys done though, with hte highest power (highest sample size) show that its American policies and propping up of tyrannies they resent. So your point actually unproves your earlier futile, meritless meanderings you had here... which was that these folks are anti all things Western, including modernization.

Bottom line: the canard doesnt work. Keep posting it like a broken record and we can just keep posting this as a cut and paste in response. Otherwise make good. Strap up, grab your M16 join the ANA or even the North Koreans and live the life you advocate.

Regarding the West and being tough.... why not help them out? After all, why should Timmy English die for a struggle that has nothing to do with him really when its all distilled down? Go join the royal marines and go in his place Soldat!

Manana i wanted to add the same but Allah brought you before me to destroy his false claims and defeat him.

[Afghanistan2010]

Besides posting DP's of Pagan Monks, Afghansitan2010 would never leave the luxurious west, his cosy and warm bed and his safe protected life under unbiased laws, which Talib would want to do that.

However, what irritates me, is that his "sort", like to preach to the poor while enjoy the luxury, this is what Karl Marx was spot on about, he was right in this "aspect", take Tariq Jameel, the spiritual leader of the Tablighi Jamat, when the floods happened in Pakhtunkhwa, this lunatic stated it happened because "God was angry at the poor not praying enough" and that "God's mood comes in the form of weather" kind of reminds me of those American crazy evangelicals who would run away and screem "Jesus is angry at the people of New Orleans".

Those Talibs are not free, anyone with logical mind, can see, these Talibs run to the same Pakistan for

1)Rest and recovery
2)Medical attention
3)Weapons
4)Ideology(Darol ul Haqqania/Binori Masjid/Lal Masjid.

Everyone in Pakhtunkhwa knows, Talib militants get treated in Peshawer Hospital, same in Waziristan, especially in Miram Shah Hospital, your telling me nobody knows in the Pakistan government about an "Injured Arab militant".

Without Pakistan, there is no Taliban, for years the Taliban worked with the ISI very openly until the Yanks distrupted Pakistani games in Afghanistan.

Most of these Talib supporters love Western technology, even Mullah Zaeef loves his Iphone.

They preach about the ills of Modern Western technologies, the TV, Music and even kite flying, but they themselves love to use Western Technoligical equipment to record their beheadings, suicide bombing missions and to use wireless sets to set off bombs in markets.

The West in my opinion is too soft on such people.

What is wrong with technology,why we can't use it ?
We are not against Science and developing new technologies,which are useful to us and them.

We preach about the problems of such developing , like pornography,the losing of identity to internet and leaving important parts of life.
Wasting to much time with TV and Internet instead learning something new or doing some sports,helping someone being social,being generous to others.

by such things are alien to you.

you talk about ideology , we go to the Kaaba to perform Hajj does this mean we go there to get help from the Arab government and their Kings ?
Islamic Education is important and you can get it from only reliable sources.

[NokiaWnW]

LOL clowns .. honestly, you are clowns. You have no idea how reality works. You failed to do anything in the last 40years and you will fail to do anything in the next 100years. And the Taliban want to combate the Iranians? OMG ... the Iranians would come to Afghanistan, annex it and do much worser things to Afghanistan than US. Taliban and Pakis can not confrontate Iran. Iran is a modern state with enough foot-soldiers who would kill like Taliban under the name of Islam even in Panjab and Panjabis won´t be able to do anything. Stop dreaming. Currently, you kiss the boots of Iranians who provide you with their logistics and money. Without them, your Taliban movement in central Afghanistan and western would be non-existent.

[Afghanistan2010]

LOL clowns .. honestly, you are clowns. You have no idea how reality works. You failed to do anything in the last 40years and you will fail to do anything in the next 100years. And the Taliban want to combate the Iranians? OMG ... the Iranians would come to Afghanistan, annex it and do much worser things to Afghanistan than US. Taliban and Pakis can not confrontate Iran. Iran is a modern state with enough foot-soldiers who would kill like Taliban under the name of Islam even in Panjab and Panjabis won´t be able to do anything. Stop dreaming. Currently, you kiss the boots of Iranians who provide you with their logistics and money. Without them, your Taliban movement in central Afghanistan and western would be non-existent.

Dont forget Puerto Rico they are providing the taliban with uranium ammunition lol

You don't heard about the 1 Week Conflict between the Islamic Emirate and Iran

Iran is implacably hostile to the Taliban over that movement's extremist theology and over its killing of Afghan Shiite Muslims. In 1999, Iran almost went to war against the Taliban after its militia killed eight Iranian diplomats and a journalist after capturing a predominantly Shiite town, and has worked together with Russia to support anti-Taliban opposition forces. Despite the overtures between the reformist president Mohammed Khatami and the West on ways of cooperating against terrorism, hard-line spiritual leader Ayatollah Khameini insisted that while Iran condemned the terror strikes in the U.S., Tehran could not support U.S. military action against Afghanistan. Still, whether working directly with the U.S. or not, Iran remains a key regional player in the anti-Taliban alliance.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz1eMa3LWyk

[Al Hanif]

lol clowns .. Honestly, you are clowns. You have no idea how reality works. You failed to do anything in the last 40years and you will fail to do anything in the next 100years. And the taliban want to combate the iranians? Omg ... The iranians would come to afghanistan, annex it and do much worser things to afghanistan than us. Taliban and pakis can not confrontate iran. Iran is a modern state with enough foot-soldiers who would kill like taliban under the name of islam even in panjab and panjabis won´t be able to do anything. Stop dreaming. Currently, you kiss the boots of iranians who provide you with their logistics and money. Without them, your taliban movement in central afghanistan and western would be non-existent.

hahaha faggot

[Al Hanif]

NokiaWnW is a Parsiwan

[NokiaWnW]

Dont forget Puerto Rico they are providing the taliban with uranium ammunition lol

You don't heard about the 1 Week Conflict between the Islamic Emirate and Iran

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...#ixzz1eMa3LWyk

And that should proves what? Why you can not battle the Pak army? Why can´t you establish a sharia Emirat in Pakistan?

[thetruth]

Nokia, Please provide me evidence where Daud Khan was assassinated by Mujahideen instead of the Militant Communists/Secularists.

Also, please provide me evidence that contradicts research made by former British Ambassador to Kabul Sherard Coles that the Talban control the majority of Afghanistan. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ghanistan.html

Please provide proof that these protests did not occur. I want sources and links as you claimed it was Taliban propaganda. Having said that, I also want you to provide proof that Reuters is a Taliban mouthpiece and propaganda news organization since they published the article. Prove me that all these media sources are in cahoots with the Taliban.

Protest flares in east Afghanistan against U.S. deal | Reuters
Some 3,000 Afghans protest against long-term U.S. deal | World | RIA Novosti


Until you do not do that, you really will not be taken seriously with your outbursts.

Understand lastly that the tide of history is against the false nationalist/ Militant Secularist/Communist objectives. They wish to live in an altered reality where they think that they will achieve their objectives while sitting in the West and leeching and supporting foreign wars.

This is a proven losing strategy that will only fail even more.


Do not then complain about what vision the victors implement

[Afghanistan2010]

And that should proves what? Why you can not battle the Pak army? Why can´t you establish a sharia Emirat in Pakistan?

The TTP is trying to establish an Islamic Emirate in Pakistan....whats the purpose of their insurgency ?

[Zmarak]

LOL clowns .. honestly, you are clowns. You have no idea how reality works. You failed to do anything in the last 40years and you will fail to do anything in the next 100years. And the Taliban want to combate the Iranians? OMG ... the Iranians would come to Afghanistan, annex it and do much worser things to Afghanistan than US.

Well, I don't understand how reality works but I do reserve doubts regarding this claim. If Iran invaded Afghanistan they would be fighting much more than just Taliban operatives haha. Iran wouldn't have the same stealth that the Americans do (playing friendly with villagers and presenting "I'm here to help" image). They'd behave in a way where they would have every other village militia coming for them anywhere they went. If the Soviets couldn't handle us, how could Iran ever succeed? And who would be their allies? On the other hand, they may be clever enough to gain support of Hazara Shiites.