Some 3,000 Afghans protest against long-term U.S. deal

[thetruth]

Thanks for correction. The Jerusalem Post has also covered this protest of thousands of Afghans.

[Afghanistan2010]

Just because you´r a 13years old kid does not means I am wrong lol ... you need to learn a lot about Pakistan, Afghanistan and Pashtuns.

Ps: The head-line says ''thousands'' ... neither in the media nor in the news paper of Deutsche Welle Afghanistan such thing was reported. 2 or 3 crying monkies does not make a huge mass of thousands!

you seem to be the only ( Yahdikum-ullah ) ....dont make me say words that are hard for you to accept.

it is if you tell me at the sunset that the sun is going down for ever

you joke , there are videos of protests okay...and they are not three or four they are more than 2000...and this is not everything we have witnessed across afghanistan protests in the past years but this doesn't talk to the number of those who are against american terrorists and its slaves and the people who follow kharzai ( the donkey).

afghans don't protests we are new to this,we have the sword and the word of the word is the sword, we teach our enemies lessons by the peak of the speer and smash their heads and built our fortresses out of their skulls and bones.


remember what our leaders said like khalid ibn al waleed :

We have heard that Roman blood is very delicious, and we have come here to enjoy it!” Khaild Bin Waleed (R.A)

And the true afghans have also heard that the blood of our enemy is very delicious so they are ready to shed it and enjoy it.

[Afghanistan2010]

It's not you who decide to the punishment, it's to Allah so don't talk about death .

thats why you patron i said : May "Allah"

[NokiaWnW]

you seem to be the only ( Yahdikum-ullah ) ....dont make me say words that are hard for you to accept.

it is if you tell me at the sunset that the sun is going down for ever

you joke , there are videos of protests okay...and they are not three or four they are more than 2000...and this is not everything we have witnessed across afghanistan protests in the past years but this doesn't talk to the number of those who are against american terrorists and its slaves and the people who follow kharzai ( the donkey).

afghans don't protests we are new to this,we have the sword and the word of the word is the sword, we teach our enemies lessons by the peak of the speer and smash their heads and built our fortresses out of their skulls and bones.


remember what our leaders said like khalid ibn al waleed :

We have heard that Roman blood is very delicious, and we have come here to enjoy it!” Khaild Bin Waleed (R.A)

And the true afghans have also heard that the blood of our enemy is very delicious so they are ready to shed it and enjoy it.

''You''? When did ''YOU'' teached anyone a lesson? Pakistan is backing ''You'', so Pakistan is playing with the mass of innocent Pashtun lifes and use it against powers. ''You'' are nothing ... just waste of oxygen and sperms.

[Afghanistan2010]

''You''? When did ''YOU'' teached anyone a lesson? Pakistan is backing ''You'', so Pakistan is playing with the mass of innocent Pashtun lifes and use it against powers. ''You'' are nothing ... just waste of oxygen and sperms.

Pakistan what the islamic emirate did to it :

Fire to the Fuel: More NATO tankers torched in latest Pakistan attack - YouTube[/URL]

The ttp pakistan has been led by the islamic emirate of afghanistan since 2004 under Mullah Sangeen and others.

ask pakistani government about their 5000 casualties and the huge numbers of wounded in action.

and the people beloning to the intelligence agencies.

ISI terrorists targeted in Lahor attack.

Suspected Taliban [ Images ] militants on Wednesday brazenly targeted the provincial headquarters of the Inter-Services Intelligence in Lahore [ Images ], detonating an explosive-laden car, leaving at least 35 people dead and over 250 wounded.

[NokiaWnW]

Stop playing here. Taliban and all other insurgencies are the slaves of Pakistan. Never read that an ISI officer died or any Pakistani of the Panjabi establishment. The Pakis do not care about their civilians. Their aim goes beyond your intelligence. They care for power and their existence as a future power and you are just tools for them to use against US and Afghanistan and at the same time showing US and the West how they deal with your brothers when they only kill your low-rank primitives.

Haqqani and Gulbuddin Are Pro Pakistan: Hamid Gul
Former Pakistan ISI Chief: Haqqani and Gulbudin both are both as patriotic Pakistani as I am - YouTube



It is very easy to use you Islamists with Islam as tool.

[NokiaWnW]

When Haqqani or Lashkar-i Taibah attacked the oil tankers, they did it because of the orders they got from their masters.

[NokiaWnW]

Welcome to the 21th century ... that´s modern intrigues and policy

[thetruth]

Nokia,

Pakistan support for the US war is logically seen as treacherous throughout that region. Do you disagree with this logic? It is no suprise then that US oil tankers are repeatedly torched. Why would it be?

What is your point? Obviously, Pakistan as well as Iran, and other regional nations now have an interest in seeing the US defeated in Afghanistan despite the double game they play. Their support or lack of support is irrelevant to Afghans who oppose the US occupation for their own reasons as you can witness from the protests that are occurring. Karzai has publicly endorsed the US war in Afghanistan, and the occupation. Unintentionally, he has united the nation against him and the occupation, and this has passed a point of no return. Does this double game mean anything to the average Afghan? Well, yes, logically Afghans are adamantly opposed to Pakistan for supporting the US war and to any other nation or political parties who support it, and also for ferreting Karzai from Islamabad abroad American aircraft into Afghanistan.

Pakistan's support for the US war is the only valid reason for opposition to Pakistan.

Nokia,

You also earlier mentioned that this is Taliban propaganda (maybe published by Hamid Gul?). Please prove this with evidence. In addition, I would like you to prove that Reuters is a mouthpiece of the Taliban as you have claimed that this story is propaganda, and they have subsequently published the event below as news. Post the sources and links.

Protest flares in east Afghanistan against U.S. deal | Reuters

SURKHROD, Afghanistan (Reuters) - Around 1,000 people, mostly students, took to the streets in eastern Afghanistan on Sunday to protest against plans for a long-term partnership deal with the United States, which they fear could lead to an extended presence of U.S. troops.
Afghan political and community leaders endorsed the idea of a strategic partnership, with some caveats, after a 2,000-strong national gathering, or loya jirga, which ended on Saturday.
The demonstrators gathered just outside the capital of eastern Nangarhar province and burnt an effigy of U.S. President Barack Obama as they protested against the prospect of U.S. troops remaining in Afghanistan.
All foreign combat troops are currently slated to leave Afghanistan by the end of 2014, with security nationwide to be handed over to the national police and army. However, other foreign advisers will remain to work with Afghan forces.
"We are totally against any American presence in Afghanistan, they kill our people in their arbitrary operations," said university student Mohammad Tahir Qane.
Other protesters carried banners and shouted "death to America, death to American slaves."
One, 22-year-old Gul Khan, said: "We don't want to be the slaves of Americans forever, our patience is running out. If this pact is signed, we will take to the streets every day."
There were some major qualifications on the jirga's support for a pact, however.


Now, prove to me that these protests did not take place. Reports indicate thousands have protested. Provide me the evidence that this did not happen. I want sources and links, not your guesses.

Also, I am waiting for evidence you promised me about mujahideen being behind Daud Khan's assassination, this evidence would refute the historical record. Please go to that respective thread, and provide the evidence as you promised.

Thanks

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Pakistani/Taliban/Gulbuddini propaganda and lies!

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68759.html

Its happening in Kabul too. Is politico and reuters also ISI driven?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68759.html

More than 1,000 university students blocked a main highway in eastern Afghanistan on Sunday to protest any agreement that would allow U.S. troops to remain in the country after a planned transfer of authority in 2014.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1eHbWeseA

Also found here

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...an-us-pact.htm

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Stop playing here. Taliban and all other insurgencies are the slaves of Pakistan. Never read that an ISI officer died or any Pakistani of the Panjabi establishment. The Pakis do not care about their civilians. Their aim goes beyond your intelligence. They care for power and their existence as a future power and you are just tools for them to use against US and Afghanistan and at the same time showing US and the West how they deal with your brothers when they only kill your low-rank primitives.

Haqqani and Gulbuddin Are Pro Pakistan: Hamid Gul
Former Pakistan ISI Chief: Haqqani and Gulbudin both are both as patriotic Pakistani as I am - YouTube



It is very easy to use you Islamists with Islam as tool.

Couldnt be worse than these pictures I assume:

[thetruth]

Here is proof in images that these protests are occurring. Jerusalem Post also posted this news with this title, "Afghanistan: Protesters want US troops out"

Afghanistan: Protesters want US troops out - JPost - Middle East


Protest flares in east Afghanistan against U.S. deal | Reuters



Protest flares in east Afghanistan against U.S. deal










SURKHROD, Afghanistan | Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:10am GMT

(Reuters) - Around 1,000 people, mostly students, took to the streets in eastern Afghanistan on Sunday to protest against plans for a long-term partnership deal with the United States, which they fear could lead to an extended presence of U.S. troops.

[thetruth]

Some 3,000 Afghans protest against long-term U.S. deal

Some 3,000 Afghans protest against long-term U.S. deal

Topic: Situation in Afghanistan


14:09 20/11/2011
KABUL, November 20 (RIA Novosti)





Over three thousand people, mostly students, protested on Sunday in eastern Afghanistan against a deal that would allow a long-term presence of U.S. troops in the country.
A gathering of some 2,000 tribal elders known as loya jirga approved the idea of such a long-term partnership deal at a conference that ended on Saturday.
The demonstrators gathered near the capital of the eastern province of Nangarhar and shouted "Death to America! Death to the Government of Hamid Karzai!" to protest against any partnership with the United States allowing for the stay of U.S. troops in the country.
All international combat troops are expected to leave Afghanistan by the end of 2014, with security to be passed to the Afghan police and army. However, the proposed security agreement envisages the keeping of U.S. troops in the country past this deadline.


Some 3,000 Afghans protest against long-term U.S. deal | World | RIA Novosti

[thetruth]

please merge the other thread in political talk http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...ry-pact-23258/ with this.

The news shown here sheds more light on the situation.

Thanks

[AFG21]

After WWII you still have US bases in Japan and Germany and that is more than 60 years. And did you really expected that they will live after 2014? Kind of naive of you peopel. They will stay there forever, as long as US can afford it, US will do anything to maintain it's superpower position, now even harder when they see China's and India's economie growing so fast.
And for me it doesn't really matter, becuase if US leaves, Pakistan and Iran will control Afghanistan and we will get those monkeys again. At least whith US they will not get the chanse to control us again like in the 90's. So it's like to choose between two evil's I will go whith US becuase they are les evil than Pakistan goverment and Iranian goverment. Everybody knows what those two country are doing whith there own peopel.