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A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
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A repeat of the turkey conference...
too many chefs...
Something like 90 countries trying to decide the fate of afghans. Russia, china, iran and pakistan will say one thing, US and her "allies" will want another thing... they'll all agree that women still haven't been saved and "terrorism" is still a threat...and us will have to keep it's bases there...forever and ever.
I doubt anything significant will happen. It'll be another failure
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There is no resolution to the conflict besides the complete US withdrawal from Afghanistan. This is made clear by all Afghan political parties, the Socialist Democratic party as well as the religious parties. It is also made clear by China, Russia, Iran, and Pakistan. Regional nations will never clap to a US agenda as it will not suit their interests. This was proven at the Istanbul summit, and later confirmed at the SCO summit where Putin and Wen's speech should be noted.
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^ again it shouldn't matter what other regional players want, afghan parties need to find allies within and stop looking for support from foreign elements to aid their individual agendas..its what got Afghanistan in this messIt's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..
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there will be no representation of Afghan people at this conference.
Afghan parties through several conferences have made it clear they want the complete withdrawal of US forces. The Afghan Socialist Democratic Party is one of those aside from the religious parties too.Last edited by Guest; 11-14-2011, 11:13 AM.
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There will be no outcomes. America will continue to be soft on Pakistan, and Terrorists will cross the border freely aided by the FC to bomb Afghan cities.
In my humble opinion, America should scrap its plans of bombing Iran, and save its money and go for a all out on Pakistan.
It will be much easier for the Afghan government, to cleanse its society of vermin, by allowing them to die in Pakistan.
Problem solved.
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He is big afraid of death. he can't dare go and fight taliban. He is just sitting there getting salaries from cia and working for them against the people of Afghanistan. He loves money more than their own people.Originally posted by thetruth View PostSoldat, when will you go and join the Afghan National Army, what are you doing in the West typing on your laptop?
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Premature to convene bonn II
By Khalid Iqbal | Published: November 14, 2011
Germany has been persistently contributing towards achieving an enduring peace in Afghanistan since Petersberg Conference 10 years ago. It is refreshing to observe the comments of its special envoy on Afghanistan, Michael Steiner, that the Taliban militia is expected to take part in the next month’s international conference on Afghanistan. Earlier this month, German Foreign minister Guido Westerwelle had left open the possibility of inviting the Taliban
Recent Istanbul conference has set the dice rolling for the forthcoming Bonn II Conference on December 5, where delegations from about 90 countries are expected to formulate a practical roadmap for a post-America Afghanistan. Political pundits had termed the Istanbul Conference as a prelude to the Bonn Conference. The Istanbul Conference involved top diplomats from China, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Pakistan, Iran, India, Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. The United States, Japan and several European countries and organisations attended as supporters/observers. Delegates focused on international community’s long-term commitments to stabilise Afghanistan. A day earlier, Turkey had hosted a trilateral conference to diffuse tensions between Pakistan and Afghanistan; this event was a resounding success resulting in the conclusion of important agreements.
However, the larger gathering under the banner of ‘Istanbul Conference’ suffered from serious dilemmas; it reinforced the impression that ‘too many cooks spoil the broth’.
Emerging victors of the Afghan conflict, a conglomerate of political resistance groups under various brands, were absent from the scene.
The losing parties, America, NATO/ISAF etc were portraying themselves as victors and trying to set the rules of the endgame. In its arrogance, America had manoeuvred the circulation of a draft declaration through a dubious entity, ‘Heart of Asia Nations’. India, a distant player and a long time spoiler in Afghan settlement was seen asserting for its lateral entry as a major stakeholder through additional structures.
The result was obvious, serious disagreements emerged and the text of declaration had to be amended, not going beyond the statements of the obvious. It was pointed out that there is already an unmanageable double digit number of structures related to the Afghan conflict, often crisscrossing each other’s mandate and hence, creating more problems than they could resolve. Hence, the Afghan solution and overall security of the region must be found within the existing arrangements. It was stressed that the Economic Cooperation Organisation (ECO) and the Shangai Cooperation Organisation need to be strengthened to address security and economic issues of the region.
According to the declaration, the participants signed up to a package of “confidence-building measures” for cooperation in fields, including security, reconstruction, health, fight against terrorism and drug trafficking. They vowed to “respect Afghanistan’s sovereignty, unity and territorial integrity...They also discussed guarantees for non-intervention and non-interference in the internal affairs of other states and peaceful settlement of disputes in accordance with international law.” Indeed, previous positions restated!
Political rhetoric and hollow promises of cooperation aside, a much-publicised conference, which was aimed at mapping out Afghanistan’s future after the departure of Western forces failed to achieve a major breakthrough.
During this conference, the Americans were seriously questioned about their military intentions beyond 2014, especially about their clandestine efforts for acquiring permanent military bases in Afghanistan. A near consensus emerged among Russia, China, Iran and Pakistan that there is no need of American military bases in Afghanistan. Its neighbouring countries sought clarity from the US over its proposed plans. Though officially America denies seeking permanent bases, its actions speak otherwise.
The exclusion of Afghan political resistance groups from the Istanbul conference reminded of a revisit of ‘Geneva Accord’ that resulted in ‘runaway’ of Soviets without putting in place a sustainable political dispensation. Earlier, Turkey had suggested the setting up of a diplomatic office for the Taliban on its soil, but the Americans did not agree; they wanted to setup such a facility at a place which is out of Pakistan’s reach of influence over the Taliban; Mars could compete as a suitable venue! As a result, no unified representative structure for the Taliban has been able to take roots.
As a matter of principle no outsider, least the losing entities, should dictate the ‘who’ and ‘how’ of the future political dispensation.
It is the prerogative of the people of Afghanistan—the victors of the conflict—to decide these issues for themselves. Bonn II would be a non-starter if it is not build on this reality. Pakistan and political resistance groups are a part of the solution, which the Americans tend to ignore, though at their own peril.
Other hazy area marring forward movement is the occupation troops’ murky withdrawal schedule. So far what is certain is the notional date that marked the symbolic start of drawdown. Deliberate ambiguity surrounds as to when the process would end. A decade on, the Taliban insurgents remain a deadly force in Afghanistan, continuing to wage attacks against Afghan and coalition forces.
Pakistan had pinned little hope on the Istanbul Conference because of the divergence in approaches of key participants over certain strategic issues. “We maintained a low profile at the conference. We were there as a listener,” the Pakistani diplomat said. He further revealed that “Pakistan, along with Russia, China and Iran, not only voiced concerns over the US plans for military bases in Afghanistan but also opposed a new regional mechanism for peace and security in the region”.
The strong opposition prompted abandonment of the original Istanbul draft that proposed the formation of a contact group, which comprised, besides other countries, India, which does not share a border with Afghanistan. Main disagreement pegged around the intent to create a regional security structure. Russia, Pakistan, China and Iran among others, objected to establishing any security apparatus or a new regional organisation. Russia tabled its own draft about regional cooperation, which listed a number of political, economic and other measures to build confidence and encourage collaboration. The Russian text won support from the Central Asian states and came closest to Pakistan’s position. Some Western diplomats proposed a Helsinki-type process as a framework for regional cooperation entailing a security-focused conference leading to a more permanent regional structure to stabilise Afghanistan. A legacy of cold war era to improve relations between the antagonists of yesteryears hardy has any relevance to present day Afghanistan.
Time has come for America to take a backseat in the Afghanistan endgame process. Having missed all opportunities offered to it for an honourable exit, it must prepare its people to embrace the realities of another expensive defeat in Asia. Any solution seen as America sponsored is not likely to be accepted by the Afghan people.
The US needs to come out of delusion that Present Karzai represents the aspirations of Afghan people.
During these defining moments, Pakistan must find ways to deflect unnecessary American pressure and proactively articulate its point of view. Russia and China need to assume lead role in laying down the rules of the game and offer themselves as the guarantors.
Unless necessary preparatory work is in place, especially in the context of a unified body representing all factions of Afghan political resistance in the status of an ‘Afghan government in waiting’, Bonn II appears a premature event; that may go down in history as another missed opportunity!
The writer is a retired Air Commodore and former assistant chief of air staff of the Pakistan Air Force. At present, he is a member of the visiting faculty at the PAF Air War College, Naval War College and Quaid-i-Azam University.
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