"Liberal" Imran Khan a 'slave' of US, Europe: Pakistan Taliban

[Soldat_Amir]

Hi if I am pakistani or not I am not obsessed with it or wanting to be it I am that is enough for me. You cant aaccept that for what ever reason you call me persian albanian sardar that is your problem. You must be a pakistani and trying to deflect attention this way being ashamed that a Pakistani is an atheist but that is my shame not yours and if there is allah i will answer it so dont worry stop trying to prove me as some one else so you can sleep good at night as a pure muslaman pakistani. I know of this problem in my fellow country men who refuse to accept certain realities of their nation but that is out of pure ignorance. I am and ex muslim if i were not a ex muslim atheist you can lie to me that people dont try to kiss lick or risk being crushed only to touch this stone would have worked but I know what you know because i have friends family who been to hajj. As stated before whether mohammad intended or not for this stone to be worshiped it is worshiped idollized by all hajjis for fact by afghanis pakistanis indians i dont know what arabic people make of it. Pakistanis afghanis indians all think that it has powers to cure to take way sin a connection to allah. The hajj practices were done by pagan arabic people everyone know this so you dont have to lie about it. All mohammad did was use abraham to justify them in his own way to make it seem monothestic. There is a story how he was going to include daughters with allah but then he was chastise for this those verses are called satanic verses. this is accepted all over pakistan that mohammad was possed and we should recite surat nass which mohammad recited to remove jinns from him. Now go back to that topic continue there this topic is a whole other subject.

If only Pakistan had more people like you. I object to your comments about Pashtuns, it was very irrational of you to place us into the "Islamist" category. I am sure you are well aware of Pakistani foreign policy towards the Pashtun people and the Islamist program led by Zia Ul Haq? Plus I find it strange of you to be a Imran Khan supporter since he supports Islamist ideals upon the Pashtun people. Something Fishy.

Anyway, on another note, what do you make of the Burqa, I read somewhere, it was also a Pre Islamic Pagan dress, but why would a furious anti Pagan faith like Islam still use it? Would that not go against its ideals?

Just asking. Just curious. no harm intended.

[Punjabi]

Tum lok to laray karne lye achey ho

Jab sochna chahye, tum lok achey nahi hotey hahaha

Peace mai reho yaaarrr

Ja pathan ho, ja punjabi ho, ja sindhi balochi ho

Hum sab insaan hai , Am i right ?

So live in peaaaace

[Punjabi]

Eh jera soldat_amir hai,

Punjabi ta pathan lok se bich me laray karna chahta hai

Ye insaan Bohot khatarnak hai, don't care about him

Punjabi ke khilaf , racist hai, arbi lok ke khilaf bi racist hai

Ye insaan hai ja jaanvar ?

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Hi in other words allah was limited by the finite nature of his own creation. hahahaha i said to get out of a hole you climb up not dig in.


"Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?" And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters.

6:114


And [mention] the Day when We will resurrect among every nation a witness over them from themselves. And We will bring you, [O Muhammad], as a witness over your nation. And We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things and as guidance and mercy and good tidings for the Muslims.

16:89


These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement after Allah and His verses will they believe?

45:6



sorry allah your verses are not in detail and clear according to this apologist we need hadiths.







"Do not write down anything from me except the Quran. Whoever writes other than that should delete it" (Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, Vol. 1, page 171 also Sahih Muslim, Book 42, Number 7147).



sorry mohammad according to this apologist quran and allah are limited by the finite nature of this universe therefore after your death thousands of ANYTHING you said will be written down and made into laws constitution of islam.

Wrong Amu Darya Wetback,

Now you are laying in the hole the Taliban made for Daoud Daoud
The hadith, like the Quran follow a temporal order in relation to revelation
This hadith you note was not a general ban on sunnah, but rather a demand that the companions not mix Muhammad's own words with the divine revelation when it was being revealed

It was narrated from Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Do not write anything from me; whoever has written anything from me other than the Qur'aan, let him erase it and narrate from me, for there is nothing wrong with that." (Narrated by Muslim, al-Zuhd wa'l-Raqaa'iq, 5326)

The hadeeth of Abu Shaah was narrated by al-Bukhaari from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said: 'When Allaah granted His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) victory over Makkah, he stood before the people and praised and glorified Allaah, then he said: "Allaah protected Makkah from the elephant and has given authority to His Messenger and the believers over it, so fighting was forbidden for anyone before me, and was made permissible for me for part of a day, and it will not be permissible for anyone after me. Its game should not be chased, its thorny bushes should not be uprooted, and picking up its fallen things is not allowed except for one who makes public announcement for it, and he whose relative is murdered has the option either to accept a compensation for it or to retaliate." Al-'Abbas said, "Except Al-Idhkhir (a kind of plant), for we use it in our graves and houses." The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, "Except Al-Idhkhir." Abu Shaah, a Yemeni, stood up and said, "O Messenger of Allaah! Get it written for me." The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, "Write it for Abu Shaah." (al-Luqatah, 2254)

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Hi in other words allah was limited by the finite nature of his own creation. hahahaha i said to get out of a hole you climb up not dig in.


"Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?" And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters.

6:114


And [mention] the Day when We will resurrect among every nation a witness over them from themselves. And We will bring you, [O Muhammad], as a witness over your nation. And We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things and as guidance and mercy and good tidings for the Muslims.

16:89


These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement after Allah and His verses will they believe?

45:6



sorry allah your verses are not in detail and clear according to this apologist we need hadiths.







"Do not write down anything from me except the Quran. Whoever writes other than that should delete it" (Ahmed Ibn Hanbal, Vol. 1, page 171 also Sahih Muslim, Book 42, Number 7147).



sorry mohammad according to this apologist quran and allah are limited by the finite nature of this universe therefore after your death thousands of ANYTHING you said will be written down and made into laws constitution of islam.

Also, for your smallish brain, you dont get that hadith are an adjunct to the constitution. In Islamic theological thought processes, they are not equivalent.

Regarding working with a finite universe... sure, I have no issue with admitting that. I mean look at a sub par low level intelligence person like you... God is merciful and knows that you have many limitations. Therefore, he created the universe, knows it, knew that his messenger lived in a finite period, and created perfection with a sustained function in that time period.

Now are you ready to stay in the hole next to Daoud Daoud?

[BarakzaiAbdali]

hahahahahaha

This has to be the most funny crap I have seen

"suicide bombings are a tool of the weak used to attack oppressors"

I guess all those Shia's in DI Khan that got attacked by a TTP suicide bomber at the civil Hosptial were oppressors.

These Talibs retard each day. If anyone is from Waziristan, you would see, the methods and tactics they use to brainwash young boys, from pictures of naked hooris and rivers of milk, and constant mental torture, and this little Mullah says Suicide bombing is a tool of the oppressed?

Has this retard ever been to a Rehab clinic of young boys in Swat? has he ever seen the extent of the damage it does to society especially to the mental health of the future generations.

I personally, think its a cover up, by the ISI to keep Imran Khan smear free, everyone has suddenly attacked Imran Khan over his support for militants in Afghanistan.

Sure, Robert Pape answers the Pakistan phenomena clearly, including the escalation of shiah mosque bombings since Pakistan's incursions into FATA took place.

Prof. Robert Pape on "Dying to Win" (Part 4 of 4) - YouTube

Discussions begins 2 minutes 23 seconds in.

I look forward to a detailed discussion of his data and theory and its being debunked by you.

[PakistaniAtheist]

Wrong Amu Darya Wetback,

Now you are laying in the hole the Taliban made for Daoud Daoud
The hadith, like the Quran follow a temporal order in relation to revelation
This hadith you note was not a general ban on sunnah, but rather a demand that the companions not mix Muhammad's own words with the divine revelation when it was being revealed

It was narrated from Abu Sa'eed al-Khudri that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Do not write anything from me; whoever has written anything from me other than the Qur'aan, let him erase it and narrate from me, for there is nothing wrong with that." (Narrated by Muslim, al-Zuhd wa'l-Raqaa'iq, 5326)

The hadeeth of Abu Shaah was narrated by al-Bukhaari from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said: 'When Allaah granted His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) victory over Makkah, he stood before the people and praised and glorified Allaah, then he said: "Allaah protected Makkah from the elephant and has given authority to His Messenger and the believers over it, so fighting was forbidden for anyone before me, and was made permissible for me for part of a day, and it will not be permissible for anyone after me. Its game should not be chased, its thorny bushes should not be uprooted, and picking up its fallen things is not allowed except for one who makes public announcement for it, and he whose relative is murdered has the option either to accept a compensation for it or to retaliate." Al-'Abbas said, "Except Al-Idhkhir (a kind of plant), for we use it in our graves and houses." The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, "Except Al-Idhkhir." Abu Shaah, a Yemeni, stood up and said, "O Messenger of Allaah! Get it written for me." The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, "Write it for Abu Shaah." (al-Luqatah, 2254)

Hi your mocking and childish insults does not compensate for your frustrated attempt to cover for irrationality. Mohammad clearly said do not write anything. He said narrate and the hadiths are not narrated but what was narrated has been written down. The other hadiths clearly shows mohammad saying write it for that specific individual. what mohammad asked to be written for the man were general instructions on how to behave in mekka at that time. You are not only a quran apologist but a hadith apologist where the quran which is complete needs hadiths to explain it and hadiths need hadiths to justify is usage. allah promoised his book to be completed clear and the last book. hadiths are need to to explain much of this clear book and add things missing such as prayer to this otherwise complete book of the creator of everything who forgot to mention that with this complete book you will need thousands of narrations which mohammad said not to write in order for you to understand it.

to get out of a hole remember you must climb up not dig in.

[PakistaniAtheist]

Also, for your smallish brain, you dont get that hadith are an adjunct to the constitution. In Islamic theological thought processes, they are not equivalent.

Regarding working with a finite universe... sure, I have no issue with admitting that. I mean look at a sub par low level intelligence person like you... God is merciful and knows that you have many limitations. Therefore, he created the universe, knows it, knew that his messenger lived in a finite period, and created perfection with a sustained function in that time period.

Now are you ready to stay in the hole next to Daoud Daoud?

Hi yes my small brain can not understand why a book that is completed by god his last message which he constantly say is clear needs adjunct parts to explain much of islamic rules laws dos and donts while quran is mostly busy talking to the people of that single period muslims have to scratch through hadiths know what quran has to say about space travel abortions blood donations cloning the use of technology music showing of the face or the hands. not to mention that the adjunct parts are made mandatory and are the sole culprit in creating so many sects where muslims kill each other on when one should make adhan or to use clay during prayer hands up or down takbeer loud or silent. I dont blame you for your irrational behaviour i blame your religion. you are a doctor as some said and i see how otherwise an intelligent human is forced to act utterly stupid thanks to his religion.

All allah had to do is say the sun is the center of your system not the earth. the earth and the moon circle the sun. each star in the sky is a far away sun and planet. instead it says how stars will fall as if they are lamps in they sky and how stars meteriorts chase listening devils. Please dont question my intelligence.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Hi your mocking and childish insults does not compensate for your frustrated attempt to cover for irrationality. Mohammad clearly said do not write anything. He said narrate and the hadiths are not narrated but what was narrated has been written down. The other hadiths clearly shows mohammad saying write it for that specific individual. what mohammad asked to be written for the man were general instructions on how to behave in mekka at that time. You are not only a quran apologist but a hadith apologist where the quran which is complete needs hadiths to explain it and hadiths need hadiths to justify is usage. allah promoised his book to be completed clear and the last book. hadiths are need to to explain much of this clear book and add things missing such as prayer to this otherwise complete book of the creator of everything who forgot to mention that with this complete book you will need thousands of narrations which mohammad said not to write in order for you to understand it.

to get out of a hole remember you must climb up not dig in.

Looool. Certainly, similar to the hole that the Taliban put Daoud Daoud in... you cannot get out!

As stated, the Quran was not to include Muhammad's own words. The timing, context, and isnaad of teh hadith must be examined. You certainly are unfit mentally to do so. SO your commentary doesnt matter. Its like as if a flea talked about it.

Regarding holiness of hadith, no one said that. There are many different accepted viewpoints in Islam regarding the role of hadith. They are an adjunctive measure to the Quran, but do not supercede it.

In Umar's time or Abu Bakr's time there were no canonical hadith collections. They however witnessed the Prophet's behavior.

Muslims are not required to believe the complete perfection of the hadith, hence the isnaad being needed in the first place. In fact, within the sahih collections, examinations are continuously being done to ascertain the propriety of these hadith being in the collections.

See, flea brains like yours, with agendas, are just that... flea brains.

Now back to your fetish with licking rocks. Your attempt to exctricate yourself out of that one is failing miserably. Until you provide the evidence you need to provide regarding it being a theological necessity and a deification of the rock to the early Muslims, all your commentary is useless.

[emkhan]

Someone should tell this atheist that the subject of Quran is not science so that you going to find science in it. The subject of the Quran is the hereafter.
Quran is far more superior than the science that you boast about every time. Quran has mentioned the things 1400 years that science is discovering now. This atheist should open his eyes.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Someone should tell this atheist that the subject of Quran is not science so that you going to find science in it. The subject of the Quran is the hereafter.
Quran is far more superior than the science that you boast about every time. Quran has mentioned the things 1400 years that science is discovering now. This atheist should open his eyes.

Many Bugs dont have eye lids. They only get crushed.

[emkhan]

Many Bugs dont have eye lids. They only get crushed.

Yet such crushed minded scrap is accepted on pf.
These atheists and their ideologies is the real reason many people including myself support taliban because other Muslims are sitting like ducks. It is only the taliban who are fighting against these dajjali force and dajjali civilization which trying to emerge in our countries.