Kandahar's Latest Problem ala CENTCOM

[BarakzaiAbdali]

New well researched article by the same author of the Harper's Weekly Expose on Abdul Raziq:

What will be fascinating is that folks here will make excuses for Raziq saying that one has to be a benevolent dictator (he is not benevolent)... yet somehow gloss over the fact that these same abuses, by relatives of this piece of trash, gave way to the rise of the Taliban shura in the 90's.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ngle_page=true#

"Yet, as a 2006 State Department report shows, U.S. officials have for years been aware of credible allegations that Raziq and his men participated in a cold-blooded massacre of civilians, the details of which have, until now, been successfully buried. And this, in turn, raises questions regarding whether U.S. officials may have knowingly violated a 1997 law that forbids assistance to foreign military units involved in human-rights violations.

Among a certain group of Kandaharis, the rough outlines of the massacre in question are well known. But nailing down a consistent, detailed version of what took place required two years of cross-checking with a diverse set of sources, including tribal elders, human-rights workers, police officers, and government officials. Most important, I was eventually given direct access to information and photos from a suppressed police investigation into the episode."

"As Waheed and I passed children kicking a soccer ball, he beckoned to me and ducked inside a doorway. He led me into a tiny guest room, where he clicked on a low-watt bulb and his adolescent son brought us tea. In the dim light, the three of us went through the series of 21 photos taken by crime-scene investigators. The bodies, lying close together in the gully, had been numbered by the investigators. One had had his neck blown apart; another was unrecognizable, his face a mass of charred flesh. Yet another photo was of a young boy, seemingly untouched, his smooth, skinny neck sticking out of a baggy tunic. He might have been asleep, were it not for his sightless eyes gazing skyward.

'There, Father. That’s Tooryalai,” Waheed’s son said, pointing at the picture of a rotund, walrus-mustached man, his face scrunched in agony, the white fabric around his midsection drenched with blood. Waheed nodded. “That’s him.'"

Pictures from the crime scene investigation of massacre imbedded in article:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ge=true#slide2

"As Raziq intended, the victims were framed as Taliban in the Afghan press. There was an outcry across the border in Pakistan, however, where many of the victims’ families lived. On March 23, two days after the murders, the Pakistani Foreign Office lodged a protest with the Afghan ambassador in Islamabad. Yet it is likely that Raziq and Lalai would have kept the truth hidden, were it not for an Afghan official working for the European Union who had happened to be in Spin Boldak at the time of the murders."

"There, according to a senior Interior Ministry official who is directly familiar with the events, President Karzai and other top officials were briefed by Rahman on the CID investigation. Semple, who was later shown the contents of the report, said that it was an open-and-shut case. “They documented the killings in such a way that would leave no reasonable person in doubt that these were summary executions carried out by the Border Police,” he said.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

And now... that piece of filth trash, that son of a bi-tch, that bald headed, that waste of human genetic material, that hermaphroditic human tampon, Karzai did the following:

"Not long after, in one of their meetings with Karzai, Semple and his boss, Vendrell, raised the issue of the killings. “We informed Karzai that we were aware of the incident in Spin Boldak and we considered that the evidence pointed to summary executions by [Raziq’s] forces, and that they had sufficient evidence of it to mount a prosecution,” Semple told me. “And he said something to the effect of ‘Abdul Raziq is a special case.’ The implication that I understood from that was that he was saying that Abdul Raziq was an essential ally against whom he was not prepared to take action, irrespective of the nature of the allegations or the evidence.” "

and what did Karzai the human tampon do to Dr. Semple???

"A tall Irishman with a flaming-red beard, fluent in Dari and Pashto, Semple was known as a foreigner who didn’t hesitate to get directly involved in Afghan politics. That hands-on attitude would later get Semple in trouble, when he was caught up in a 2007 dispute over a local cease-fire with the Taliban and was kicked out of the country by Karzai. He’s now a fellow at Harvard University’s Carr Center for Human Rights Policy and a widely respected expert on Afghanistan and Pakistan."

[BarakzaiAbdali]

By the way, Im ready to preempt the assinine response of: ooooh well the Taliban doooo it.

No jack-asses, this was: PREMEDITATED, SLOW, and LEISURELY not some retard robbing a bank.


Hands bound --> in a gully ---> machine gunned directly in the face. Not an IED, not a suicide bomber. THis means that someone would directly have had to aim the gun right at the face of the 15 year old kid pictured and pull the trigger.

[Talal]

whats CENTCOM got to do with this

[thetruth]

remember it was Abdul Raziq's father who had held and raped the two girls in Kandahar back in 1994. While crime was going on elsewhere, it was this singular incident that gave rise to the Taliban. they freed the girls, and hanged the remains of that commander from a tank. The rest as they say is history.

with numerous US crimes and murders along with those of warlords like Raziq, is it no wonder that the Taliban has returned

[BarakzaiAbdali]

whats CENTCOM got to do with this

Read the article. They preserve this idiot to suit their needs. The irony here is that our little CENTCOM guest parrot Noorzai might not enjoy being a Noorzai so much if Raziq had his way with him.

And the even greater irony is that the Pakistani conspiracy crowd laments the Taliban being supposed tools of the ISI over the down trodden Afghan people, causing them to suffer abuse and whipping. Yet this same group of hypocrites is perfectly willing to use the ends justify the means approach when this SOB or Sherzai are mentioned. What this means is that they have no issues whatsoever withoutside interference... the whole lot of em... all hypocrites... its just that they want outside interference if it promotes sustaining that green caped jiggalo in Kabul, Mr. Karzai.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

whats CENTCOM got to do with this

They even broke the terms of the Leahy Bill.

[Soldat_Amir]

remember it was Abdul Raziq's father who had held and raped the two girls in Kandahar back in 1994. While crime was going on elsewhere, it was this singular incident that gave rise to the Taliban. they freed the girls, and hanged the remains of that commander from a tank. The rest as they say is history.

with numerous US crimes and murders along with those of warlords like Raziq, is it no wonder that the Taliban has returned

Yeah and the Taliban were angels. The whole rape issue was non sense, the reason why Taliban came about was due to Pakistan loosing control over its assets in the North, and with loosing Kabul, they informed the Maddrassahs all over Pakistan to rise up. They let go of Hekmatyar, and with Mullah Omars connections with the Darol ul Haqqani,and the likes of Sami ul haq, the Taliban was born.

Taliban have returned due to their protection and safe havens in Pakistan, otherwise a American led ground invasion would have eliminated them sooner, I guess the worst thing they done was allow the Airlift of evil to place.

In regards to rape,The Taliban are well known in raping little would be suicide bombers and making them feel humiliated.

[Zmarak]

Read the article. They preserve this idiot to suit their needs. The irony here is that our little CENTCOM guest parrot Noorzai might not enjoy being a Noorzai so much if Raziq had his way with him.

That man brings great shame to the Noorzai tribe. Off topic, why do some people transliterate it with "oo" and some use "u"? My methods of literal transliteration prescribe the "u".

[Alchemist]

And you ask what does CENTCOM have to do with:

This is how naive and simple minded people like ScimitarDullEdge get brainwashed into thinking that warlords like Ismail Khar, BeyHematyar are "lesser evils":

U.S. Military Leaders' Praise for Abdul Raziq

American officers in Afghanistan have had some glowing things to say about the southern Afghan warlord who may also be guilty of mass murder...

"He's become a folk hero. Afghans see him as the Afghan solution to their problems." - Col. Jeffrey Martindale, U.S. Army, quoted in The Wall Street Journal

"Is it a long-term solution? That's for others to decide. But it is a pragmatic solution... He's Afghan good-enough." Maj. Gen. Nick Carter, British Army and former top NATO commander in southern Afghanistan, quoted in The Washington Post

"He's like this Robin Hood figure who appears from nowhere, takes money and uses it to meet [the people's] needs." - Lt. Col. Andrew Green, U.S. Army, quoted in The Washington Post

"We're trying to promote integrity by watching his operations a whole lot more closely, but we don't want him to stop doing all of the good things that he's doing. We want to capitalize on his leadership." - Col. Robert Waltemeyer, U.S. Army, quoted in The Washington Post

"Colonel Razziq is trying to make some changes that allow traffic to move more smoothly. I am very optimistic that with the plans that I've heard, we can increase efficiency and decrease corruption." - General Stanley McChrystal, former head of U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan, quoted by Reuters

"If you need a mad dog on a leash, he's not a bad one to have." - Unnamed U.S. official, quoted in The Washington Post

"I have a clear strategy: When the enemies are killing us, we shouldn't be giving them flowers." - Abdul Raziq, quoted in The Wall Street Journal

It is estimated that Razik pulls in between $5 million and $6 million per month in revenues, money he has invested in properties in Kabul and Kandahar and also abroad, in Dubai and Tajikistan.

[Millatpal Noorzai]

New well researched article by the same author of the Harper's Weekly Expose on Abdul Raziq:



'There, Father. That’s Tooryalai,” Waheed’s son said, pointing at the picture of a rotund, walrus-mustached man, his face scrunched in agony, the white fabric around his midsection drenched with blood. Waheed nodded. “That’s him.'"

Pictures from the crime scene investigation of massacre imbedded in article:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...ge=true#slide2

The incident occurred in March 2006 and i am sure by now most of you have read the details in the article.
As a Kandahari i would like to give you a first hand insight on what happened and what caused the killing of 16 men.
Spin Boldak is a Noorzai dominant district having about 30% Assakzai (Achakzai) of Kandahar province bordering Pakistani city Chaman. Achakzai and Noorzai tribe hold the majority, while other tribes like Kakar, Barakzai, Alizai etc share the residency of Chaman city. Achakzais are considered to be a dominant tribe in Chaman. Back in 1980s, during the AFG-SOV war when Assakzais decided to support the Soviet backed Afghan government, the Noorzais were mostly part of the Mujahideen. When Najibullah's gov't was toppled and the Muj.. took over, the rivalary between these two tribes worsened and it wasn't long before it turned into tribal blood shed (thanks to Pakistan). Gen.Raziq's father was affiliated with an Assakzai warlord in Rabat area of Spin Boldak. 1994, when Noorzai warlords lead by Mohammed Nabi caught some Assakzai tribesmen, Raziq's father was one of them. Later that week Raziq's father was cremated alive (literally barbecued on fire) in Rabat area where "Gwarg", a sub-tribe of Noozais live. In late 1994 when Taliban (Majority of whom Noorzais then and now) conquered/took over Kandahar city, they killed another man related to Raziq. This time it was Mansoor, Raziq'a uncle, a warlord living in Kandahar city at the time, and hung to the cannon beam of a Tank in day light. During Taliban regime, Assakzais were subjected to extreme brutalities not only in Kandahar but all the provinces of south western Afghanistan, stretching from Herat to Boldak. Most of the cruelty and pain Assakzais endured was by the hands of Noorzai and Popalzai tribe. Even though, later, an Assakzai was symbolically made the governor of Kandahar but that too could not prevent the atrocities committed against this tribe. Esmat Muslim, an Assakzai that was very much respected by its tribe and buried in Kharqa Sharif (next to Ahmed Shah Baba tomb) was dug out by Hafiz Majid (a TB figure from Noorzai tribe), and his corpse thrown on a pile of garbage witnessed by all Kandaharis.
In 2001, before the U.S. attacked, they reached out to the warlords in exile residing in Pakistan to help 'em topple Taliban regime. Gul Agha Sherzai and Malim Fida Assakzai who had seen the worst in Pakistan and blamed Taliban for their miseries responded first. They were paid to gather an army of five thousand men who will be given weapons and vehicles by U.S. and who should attack from Toba Achakzai area of Pakistan. As planned and directed, an army was gathered, provided with weapons, vehicles and cash, they attacked Spin Boldak district mid-October 2001 from Toba. At the time, Raziq was a young guy in his 20s, having no special stature but merely a foot soldier of Malim Fida who entered Afghanistan. Since, most of the Taliban and local Noorzais of Spin Boldak were propagated and depicted to U.S. authorities as Taliban, the affairs of local governance were entirely given to Assakzais. During those years, Raziq somehow managed to exhibit his loyalty to Canadian and U.S. Special forces in Kandahar during the notorious Panjwayi district operation and was made a commander hence put on the payroll of SF. In 2004, Raziq's brothers were killed allegedly by Shin who at the time was living in Chaman of Pakistan (Shin is originally from Boldak but was raised in Quetta, later moved to Chaman). Shin was an extortionist/kidnapper/drug lord in Chaman, the local businessmen most of whom belonged to Assakzai tribe were threatened by his presence in Chaman. By 2006, fueled by the vengeance of his brothers,uncle and father, high on SF dollars, weaponry and men, while consistently mislead by his fellow tribesmen businessmen across the border in Chaman, Raziq made a plan on how to get rid of Shin. Some say that the Afghan spy agency (NDS) had direct role in drugging and transportation of Shin and his entourage from Kabul to Boldak in the middle of the night. Raziq's plan succeeded and he killed the person that had killed his brothers. After the incident, the Noorzai tribe voiced their anger and asked for the prosecution of Raziq, threatening they will wage a tribal war otherwise. Raziq was disarmed, arrested jailed in a special prison at Kabul. In less than ten days, a delegation of local tribal elders from Assakzai and Noorzai tribes lead by late Haji Samad Khan Noorzai meets with president Karzai in Kabul (Samad Khan was a close friend of Karzai's father and a man known for his bluntness and bravery who died a month ago at the age of 78). The delegation expressed their anger over the arrest of Raziq to an extend where Samad Khan literally yells at Karzai, asking him to release and re-assign Raziq to Spin Boldak. Samad Khan a two time parliamentarian and equally respected by all tribes in Kandahar explained the story in a neutral manner. Based on the request of named delegation Raziq was released and re-assigned to his post.
Raziq has been depicted evil in media but try walking a mile in that guy's shoes, wouldn't you avenge the killing of your loved ones?

Memos:
Some say; Shin was on the payroll of I.S.I and his trip to Afghanistan was part of the dictation given by his masters.
Assakzai (Achakzai is the biggest tribe of "Balochistan" Southern Pashtunkhwa ie. Quetta, Pishin, Chaman, Abdullah Khan etc. Kakar is the second in numbers followed by other Zai's.
Noorzai and Barakzai are the biggest tribes in South Western Afghanistan stretching from Herat to Kandahar province.
Tribal differences have always been instigated and fueled by I.S.I based on their "Divide, Conquer and Rule" policy.

Pashtuns! Do not let your tribal differences deter you from the concept of unity. Our strength and existence lies in uinty.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

The incident occurred in March 2006 and i am sure by now most of you have read the details in the article.
As a Kandahari i would like to give you a first hand insight on what happened and what caused the killing of 16 men.
Spin Boldak is a Noorzai dominant district having about 30% Assakzai (Achakzai) of Kandahar province bordering Pakistani city Chaman. Achakzai and Noorzai tribe hold the majority, while other tribes like Kakar, Barakzai, Alizai etc share the residency of Chaman city. Achakzais are considered to be a dominant tribe in Chaman. Back in 1980s, during the AFG-SOV war when Assakzais decided to support the Soviet backed Afghan government, the Noorzais were mostly part of the Mujahideen. When Najibullah's gov't was toppled and the Muj.. took over, the rivalary between these two tribes worsened and it wasn't long before it turned into tribal blood shed (thanks to Pakistan). Gen.Raziq's father was affiliated with an Assakzai warlord in Rabat area of Spin Boldak. 1994, when Noorzai warlords lead by Mohammed Nabi caught some Assakzai tribesmen, Raziq's father was one of them. Later that week Raziq's father was cremated alive (literally barbecued on fire) in Rabat area where "Gwarg", a sub-tribe of Noozais live. In late 1994 when Taliban (Majority of whom Noorzais then and now) conquered/took over Kandahar city, they killed another man related to Raziq. This time it was Mansoor, Raziq'a uncle, a warlord living in Kandahar city at the time, and hung to the cannon beam of a Tank in day light. During Taliban regime, Assakzais were subjected to extreme brutalities not only in Kandahar but all the provinces of south western Afghanistan, stretching from Herat to Boldak. Most of the cruelty and pain Assakzais endured was by the hands of Noorzai and Popalzai tribe. Even though, later, an Assakzai was symbolically made the governor of Kandahar but that too could not prevent the atrocities committed against this tribe. Esmat Muslim, an Assakzai that was very much respected by its tribe and buried in Kharqa Sharif (next to Ahmed Shah Baba tomb) was dug out by Hafiz Majid (a TB figure from Noorzai tribe), and his corpse thrown on a pile of garbage witnessed by all Kandaharis.
In 2001, before the U.S. attacked, they reached out to the warlords in exile residing in Pakistan to help 'em topple Taliban regime. Gul Agha Sherzai and Malim Fida Assakzai who had seen the worst in Pakistan and blamed Taliban for their miseries responded first. They were paid to gather an army of five thousand men who will be given weapons and vehicles by U.S. and who should attack from Toba Achakzai area of Pakistan. As planned and directed, an army was gathered, provided with weapons, vehicles and cash, they attacked Spin Boldak district mid-October 2001 from Toba. At the time, Raziq was a young guy in his 20s, having no special stature but merely a foot soldier of Malim Fida who entered Afghanistan. Since, most of the Taliban and local Noorzais of Spin Boldak were propagated and depicted to U.S. authorities as Taliban, the affairs of local governance were entirely given to Assakzais. During those years, Raziq somehow managed to exhibit his loyalty to Canadian and U.S. Special forces in Kandahar during the notorious Panjwayi district operation and was made a commander hence put on the payroll of SF. In 2004, Raziq's brothers were killed allegedly by Shin who at the time was living in Chaman of Pakistan (Shin is originally from Boldak but was raised in Quetta, later moved to Chaman). Shin was an extortionist/kidnapper/drug lord in Chaman, the local businessmen most of whom belonged to Assakzai tribe were threatened by his presence in Chaman. By 2006, fueled by the vengeance of his brothers,uncle and father, high on SF dollars, weaponry and men, while consistently mislead by his fellow tribesmen businessmen across the border in Chaman, Raziq made a plan on how to get rid of Shin. Some say that the Afghan spy agency (NDS) had direct role in drugging and transportation of Shin and his entourage from Kabul to Boldak in the middle of the night. Raziq's plan succeeded and he killed the person that had killed his brothers. After the incident, the Noorzai tribe voiced their anger and asked for the prosecution of Raziq, threatening they will wage a tribal war otherwise. Raziq was disarmed, arrested jailed in a special prison at Kabul. In less than ten days, a delegation of local tribal elders from Assakzai and Noorzai tribes lead by late Haji Samad Khan Noorzai meets with president Karzai in Kabul (Samad Khan was a close friend of Karzai's father and a man known for his bluntness and bravery who died a month ago at the age of 78). The delegation expressed their anger over the arrest of Raziq to an extend where Samad Khan literally yells at Karzai, asking him to release and re-assign Raziq to Spin Boldak. Samad Khan a two time parliamentarian and equally respected by all tribes in Kandahar explained the story in a neutral manner. Based on the request of named delegation Raziq was released and re-assigned to his post.
Raziq has been depicted evil in media but try walking a mile in that guy's shoes, wouldn't you avenge the killing of your loved ones?

Memos:
Some say; Shin was on the payroll of I.S.I and his trip to Afghanistan was part of the dictation given by his masters.
Assakzai (Achakzai is the biggest tribe of "Balochistan" Southern Pashtunkhwa ie. Quetta, Pishin, Chaman, Abdullah Khan etc. Kakar is the second in numbers followed by other Zai's.
Noorzai and Barakzai are the biggest tribes in South Western Afghanistan stretching from Herat to Kandahar province.
Tribal differences have always been instigated and fueled by I.S.I based on their "Divide, Conquer and Rule" policy.

Pashtuns! Do not let your tribal differences deter you from the concept of unity. Our strength and existence lies in uinty.

Ismat Muslim was one of the worst people in the history of our region. Even Najibullah disowned this ba-stard:

Reference:

The Afghanistan Wars by William Maley
"A number of militia leaders were to achieve considerable noteriety such as... the rambunctious Esmatullah 'Muslim' in Kandahar. Esmatullah in particular proved hard to handle. He noisily interrupted a 'loyah jirgah' staged by Najibullah in Kabul in November 1987, and Najibullah the next day made his views quiet clear: 'Unfortunately he is sick. He goes to extremes using narcotics and alcohol, and it is these which caused his illness (BBC Summary of the world broadcasts, 9 Dec 1987)" page 110

http://books.google.com/books?id=jzX...page&q&f=false

From the Fragmentation of Afghanistan by Rubin page 159:

"He [Ismat Muslim] established a large house in Kabul where he had many parties featuring alcohol, drugs, dancers, and prostitutes. A US diplomat living nearby once observed Ismat Muslim torturing a prisoner in his garden... he died in a Soviet hospital in 1991 apparently from the effects of drugs and alcohol abuse"

Ismat had no real isses with the ISI, except that they werent arming him with enough to kill more Noorzais with.

In fact, Rubin's text goes on to confirm that he worked with them initially and then, when Najib started to get feisty with him he tried to go back to them:

"he later tried to defect back to the other side, but the ISI refused to meet his conditions...."

Lest any mentally slow person here now try to pertend that these were noble conditions in which this goat tried to bargain for Afghanistans freedoms... they will be disappointed with the fact that:

"one of which was that they [ISI] return the two Mercedez Benz they had confiscated from him..."

There you have it... Ismat the drunkard, w-hore loving, crack smoking pimp ready to sell his allegience for two cars.

Second, the writer Matt Aikens, had done his previous expose and provided the necessary background that you cite.

http://harpers.org/archive/2009/12/0082754

"Razik’s uncle Mansour, who had survived Esmat’s departure by rejoining the mujahideen, was hanged from the gun of a tank north of Spin Boldak by the Taliban. Razik’s father also was killed, and his family, along with many Achakzai tribal leaders, fled into exile in Pakistan—until the U.S.-led invasion arrived like a thunderbolt."

In fact he speaks to Fida Muhammad Achakzai.

Mansur was also a member of Ismat Khan's infamous communist militia.

Finally, the greater ethical issue is not Razaq doing Badal, in answering your question of what one would do in his situation... its the hypocrites here who claim that their interventionalist faction (i.e. formerly the communists but peculiarly now the secular capitalist democrats) is more humane and somehow better. This is not the case... and their utilization of US fire power to accomplish these bloody goals of killing a 15 year old at close range is no different than what they harangue against.

Its also Mr. Noorzai of CENTCOM that has to address such failings in the US Military's adherence to the Leahy Law which prohibits funding local militias that have committed known war crimes.

"Moral questions aside, Raziq’s record of reported human-rights abuses should make it illegal for the U.S. to train and assist his forces. In 1997, in response to abuses by the Colombian army, Congress passed the Leahy Amendment, named after its sponsor and most vocal advocate, Senator Patrick Leahy, a Democrat from Vermont. The law prohibits State Department or Defense Department assistance or training to a foreign military unit where there is “credible evidence that such unit has committed gross violations of human rights.”

So the basis for their support of Mr. Karzai vanishes like a mirage and has nothing at all to do with betterment of Afghanistan.

Regarding Razziq's supposed imprisonment, thats a farcical tale:

"Raziq refused to meet with the CID team and went to stay in the house of his friend Asadullah Khalid, then the governor of Kandahar province and now the minister of tribal and border affairs; it was announced in the press that Raziq had been “taken into custody and temporarily replaced in his job pending an investigation.” Khalid, though, would hardly seem to be one to call Raziq to account: in 2007, while Khalid was governor, the Canadian military temporarily ceased detainee transfers after persistent allegations of torture by security forces, including Khalid’s notorious palace-guard force, Brigade 888. "

Regarding Shin's history, the verdict is still out and no proof at all exists of any ISI collaboration. Thats a of unsubstantiated excuses.

"Raziq and Lalai had together lured Shin and his associates to Kabul. The tribes to which Raziq and Shin belonged had been feuding over smuggling routes, and Raziq held Shin responsible for the 2004 killing of his brother. Shin had been a marked man ever since. His 15 companions were just going to be collateral damage."

[BarakzaiAbdali]

What I find rather hypocritical of these marxists turned capitalists over night is that they utilize the swan song of : The Taliban burned kites, killed Da Vinci, shot Michelangelos mother, and banned all music and killed singers.

Yet, what we find is that communist drunkard Ismat and his boy Mansur killed Kandahar singing legend Ubaidullah Jan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubaidullah_Jan

Reference given in the article is:
Giustozzi, Antonio (2009). Empires of mud: war and warlords of Afghanistan. Columbia University Press. p. 63. ISBN 0231700806. http://books.google.com/books?id=ZRS...page&q&f=false.

[abassinafghan]

Barakzai

i find it amusing how you want to try to be "serious" by posting nonsence written by people who dont even speak the languages of the country about they are writting books .

none of this so called experts even wasted a second about afg in the 90s ,and just know about it by rambo movies , and today they write so called scholastic and political educational books by calling narrations of lalas and mamas which they met some how some where .... among them bull**** like kite runner , the war of charlie wilson , the story of ahmad khar masoud , and the taliban who fought the russians . bla bla bla

please stop to explain us what is goint on in khandahar by qouting those people , you make people laugh about you if you would say such things among afghans , and i mean grown up not the little cyber arm chair ghazian

[ScimitarXEdge]

Alchemist, your level of nonsense is indescribable, you not only lie about what people state, you have little to no information on things you discuss.

you need to know the difference between allegations and EVIDENCE.

Ismail Khan is opposed by the U.S. which isn't much to say about your Pro U.S. hero Massoud. And he opposed U.S. bases in Afghanistan. Sure he might not be willing to murder and massacre his own civilians as the Taliban would, and thus is willing to use other means to deal with issues; but so did Muhammad(saw) any sane person can see that's better than blowing up women and children to get one NATO soldier at a check point.

If you weren't brainwashed yourself, you'd have known this.