Paktia elders back strategic pact with US

[Talal]

the last strategic pact was to authorize night raids by the ISAF..whats this one for ?

[Toramana]

To authorize NATO to chase Punjabis accross Attok into their abode of Hermandi, Lahore ---Buffoon, if you could be a bit more thoughtful, you could know it is a strategic pact ---a long-term agreement between Pashtuns and NATO/US to contain the menace of terrorism eminating from Punjabi land and terrorising the entire region.

[abassinafghan]

all this qaum mashar is bs , those times are over , in the last 30 years those khanan lost their so called power , besides they were one of the reason of our backwardness .

i know several people who were parchamian or khalqian higher ups , and now they let them self call de qaum mashar , in the 80s they wore a suit , now they look like straight out of argandabad ^^

however as long the ignorant westerners believe that they can do their 19th cenutry imperial style politics they will loose.

[kakargirl]

Loya Jirga lost its credibility back in 1980s when the participants were chosen based on political affiliation rather than public representation. It worsened at the time of Mujahideen/Topakyan and the current regime where true Khans/Nawabs/Sardars of any given tribe were subdued and substituted by a thug that had the support of a few crooks and AK47s. An example of just Kandahar may illustrate how hypocritical this traditional rite has been made: Gul Agha Sherzai who was not a tribal elder but the son of a poor restaurant owner who gained fame during the civil war will be representing Barakzais, Amir Lalai who was a route driver represented Popalzai tribe due to his political affiliation leaving the true 'Khans' of the tribe behind, and Noorzai tribe was and will be represented by a similar person(s) like Arif Khan; again for his loyalty to Karzai and relationship with his family and at last Alkozai, Alizai, Ishaqzai, Kakar and Assakzais are and will be represented by likewise thugs. In Zabul province, Tokhi, the largest tribe has been and will be represented by Hamidullah Khan. Hamidullah Khan till early 1980s was a day labor (Kharkar) who would load and unload commercial trucks. Yet again, for his loyalty to Karzai and HIG, he will be heard as the voice of Zabul. Consider most if not all the participants of likewise nature. A Loya Jirga comprising of the above mentioned elements is very much predictable and non-authentic. Participants, be it from Wolesi Jirga, Mashrano Jirga, and all provinces will lack people's mandate and only favor or oppose what suits their personal interests or their affiliates rather than "National Interests".
In this particular case of Pakitan delegation meeting with Karzai and assuring him of their support for any pact is just a political show. I am sure the delegates were either chosen by the governor of Paktia or the provincial conuncil of Paktia with an agenda. A common man or neutral true tribal elder will never find his way to Karzai's office.
Excuse my negativity and lack of belief in clown shows, admin khana.

Thank you so much for this great post your.

[Talal]

To authorize NATO to chase Punjabis accross Attok into their abode of Hermandi, Lahore ---Buffoon, if you could be a bit more thoughtful, you could know it is a strategic pact ---a long-term agreement between Pashtuns and NATO/US to contain the menace of terrorism eminating from Punjabi land and terrorising the entire region.

[Toramana]

[Alchemist]

To authorize NATO to chase Punjabis accross Attok into their abode of Hermandi, Lahore ---Buffoon, if you could be a bit more thoughtful, you could know it is a strategic pact ---a long-term agreement between Pashtuns and NATO/US to contain the menace of terrorism eminating from Punjabi land and terrorising the entire region.

Fact: More Pashtuns are killed by NATO than Punjabis.

[Toramana]

He singularly affords either Arabs or Punjabis the ownership to Islam. Don't be fooled by hsi talk about Pakjabi or Arab or whatever.

What he really means is Islam however he is smart enough to know he cant state it due to the fact that almost all Afghans are Muslims, and Pashtuns are rural and conservative Muslims which is anti to his wishes

Such are avid war supporters and love bloodshed of Afghans

they do not care about Afghanistan, and that is why they meet defeat all the time

He keeps championing this pathetic and laughable pact, but this pact which the dog Karzai will sign by himself is what has further united all Afghans, Pashtun, Tajik, Hazara, and Uzbek against him and occupation of their country


He can keep dreaming

Losers dream

Frankly, you seem to be someone from Uzbakistan (Jehadi) absconding from Uzbak authorities. You don't even know a single word of Pashto. May be you are an Arab who knows.

[Talal]

is this the part of this "strategic pact" already in place ?

This was confirmed on Aug. 19 when it was reported that the US and the Hamid Karzai government had signed a “strategic partnership” agreement allowing the US to keep 25,000 troops, including Special Operation Forces, as well as US fighter planes and helicopter gunships, in Afghanistan until at least 2024.

AF-Pak: What went/is going wrong?<br><i>by</i> <b>Robert Olson*</b>