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    Villagers from a violent part of southern Afghanistan say that Afghan troops, along with several American mentors, forced civilians to march ahead of soldiers on roads where the Taliban were believed to have planted bombs and landmines.
    No one was hurt. But if the allegations are true, the act would appear to violate the Geneva Conventions governing the treatment of civilians. The episode also raises questions about how civilians are caught between the two sides in the war.
    The Afghan general in charge of Afghan troops in the Panjwai district, southwest of Kandahar, vehemently denied that any such incident took place. Panjwai's district governor also denied it. Meanwhile, a spokesman for NATO's joint command said the incident is under investigation.
    Villagers' Accounts Of Forced March

    The Panjwai district was a Taliban fortress for years, until the U.S. troop surge in 2010 began to displace the insurgents. At first, the violence spiked, as U.S. and Afghan troops brought the front line through Panjwai and other districts outside Kandahar.
    Now, for the first time in several years, the 20-minute drive out to Panjwai is safe enough for regular traffic. But that doesn't mean the Taliban are gone.
    These days, the Taliban fight with roadside bombs and suicide bombers, says Faizal Mahmud, the deputy head of Panjwai's council of elders. His constituents tell him they feel caught between the insurgents and Afghan government forces with their American allies. Last month that went to extremes, Mahmud told NPR in an interview.
    Mahmud said scores of villagers came to the district meeting hall in Panjwai to complain last month. Along with their village elders, people from the hamlets of Zangabad, Talukan and Mushan all told a similar story. They said Afghan troops, accompanied by American soldiers, pulled them out of their homes one evening in early September.
    Mahmud said the soldiers detained a group of villagers, lined them up and forced them to walk in front of the soldiers for over a mile, through areas believed to be mined by the Taliban. Mahmud's story was corroborated by local residents, including a truck driver from Talukan who goes by one name, Hamidullah.
    "They brought in people from all the villages on the sides of the main paved road. The Taliban had told us not to go through this way because there were a lot of mines. All of the road to the next village was mined. But the soldiers told us to keep walking in front of them," Hamidullah told NPR.
    Other local residents reached by phone told the same story. Ahmad, a 22-year-old man from Zangabad village, said he was also forced to walk through what he believed to be a mined road.
    "They kept telling us to show the mines. We said we didn't know where the Taliban planted mines. Then they told us to move forward to the next village, on the way if anything happens, you are responsible for the consequences. We kept praying, oh, God, save us," Ahmad told NPR.

  • #2
    "Allegedly"

    Why would the Taliban tell Hamidullah the exact location of the mines unless hes part or associate of the Taliban?

    Plus another factor to take into consideration why did the Taliban mine a road used by civilians, and covered a whole mile?

    Once again, shows how the Taliban are using civilians as bait for recruitment and public emotions.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
      "Allegedly"

      Why would the Taliban tell Hamidullah the exact location of the mines unless hes part or associate of the Taliban?

      Plus another factor to take into consideration why did the Taliban mine a road used by civilians, and covered a whole mile?

      Once again, shows how the Taliban are using civilians as bait for recruitment and public emotions.
      huh?

      Why are NATO patrolling roads and villages used by civilians? you ignored the fact that theirs a whole bunch of civilians who complained about being forced to march on roads so American soldiers would be safe.

      once again, shows how NATO are using civilians as bait and human shields.

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      • #4
        everybody is using civilains in Afghanistan as shield, no one cares there if some one dies, all of them are hungry for power.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KingKhan View Post
          huh?

          Why are NATO patrolling roads and villages used by civilians? you ignored the fact that theirs a whole bunch of civilians who complained about being forced to march on roads so American soldiers would be safe.

          once again, shows how NATO are using civilians as bait and human shields.
          Because Taliban are there, otherwise the best option is to invade Pakistan, then there would be no Taliban.

          Logic init man!

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          • #6
            So according to Soldat:

            It's ok for nato to use afghans as shields on the roads ahead of them because the taliban chose to mine public roads ... this is legal in his eyes.

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            • #7
              Dear readers, we have read the story from NPR alleging Afghan forces accompanied by U.S soldiers forced civilians to walk through mine fields. We would like to inform you that, if true, such behavior is strictly forbidden by both international law and the US Military Code of Justice. All US uniformed personnel are trained to comply with these rules and regulations. Beloved readers, before we can comment, this story must be verified by an extensive investigation. I ask that you wait for the investigation to be completed and for the findings to be released before making up your mind. This morning, COL. Daniel J. King, a spokesperson for NATO joint command, confirmed that an investigation of the incident is underway and added that, “We take all allegations of human rights violations very seriously. It is our top priority to continue to assess the situation and if any information or evidence does come to light, we will take the appropriate legal actions.” Dear readers, we, unlike our adversaries like the Haqqani Network, who say they will no longer claim credit for the killing of innocents, are not afraid of sharing the truth. As soon as we know, you will know.



              محترم لوستونکو، موږ د ان پی ار رپورت د افغان او ایتلاف ځواکونو هغه راپور په کوم کي چي ویل شوی افغان او امریکای ځواکونو په جبري توګه ملکي افغاناني د ښخ شوي ماینو پر پتي د نظامي ګښت په څیر استفاده کړي. لومړي خو باید تاسو ته وویل شي که چيري دا اتهام په حقیقت بدل شي دا یو تخلف بلل کیژي او د امریکا د فوج د قانون خلاف عمل دي، او په دي ټول سر تیري خبر دي او پري باید عمل وکړي. قدرمنو تاسو ته زموږ سفارش دا دي چي د تحقیقاتو پایلو ته انتظار شی مخکي له دي چي د دي عمل په وړاندي خپل افکار تعین کړي. د ناتو ویاند دګروال نن سحار د تحقیقات د پیل رپورت یی تاید کړ او هغه وویل چي ایساف د بشري حقوقو د پایمال اتهامات په جدي توګه څیړي او که شواهد تر لاسه شي چي دا پیښه په رښتیا ترسره شوي دی، د متخلفینو سره قانوني چلند کیږي. دوستانو تاسو ته اطمنان درکوو د څیرني هر هغه معلومات چي زموږ ترلاسه شي هغه به حتما تاسو ته وړاندي کوو. دا تعهد زه تاسو ته په داسي وخت کي درکوم چي حقاني شبکه اعلان کړي چي پسله له دي هغوي د ملکي وګړو د وژلو مسولیت په غاړه نه اخلي.

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              • #8
                Khanzirzai is right, they'll have a nice comfy life in a fully accommodated detention center and then a pension , where in they will be released after 18 months. Justice served

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by noorzai View Post
                  Dear readers, we have read the story from NPR alleging Afghan forces accompanied by U.S soldiers forced civilians to walk through mine fields. We would like to inform you that, if true, such behavior is strictly forbidden by both international law and the US Military Code of Justice. All US uniformed personnel are trained to comply with these rules and regulations. Beloved readers, before we can comment, this story must be verified by an extensive investigation. I ask that you wait for the investigation to be completed and for the findings to be released before making up your mind. This morning, COL. Daniel J. King, a spokesperson for NATO joint command, confirmed that an investigation of the incident is underway and added that, “We take all allegations of human rights violations very seriously. It is our top priority to continue to assess the situation and if any information or evidence does come to light, we will take the appropriate legal actions.” Dear readers, we, unlike our adversaries like the Haqqani Network, who say they will no longer claim credit for the killing of innocents, are not afraid of sharing the truth. As soon as we know, you will know.



                  محترم لوستونکو، موږ د ان پی ار رپورت د افغان او ایتلاف ځواکونو هغه راپور په کوم کي چي ویل شوی افغان او امریکای ځواکونو په جبري توګه ملکي افغاناني د ښخ شوي ماینو پر پتي د نظامي ګښت په څیر استفاده کړي. لومړي خو باید تاسو ته وویل شي که چيري دا اتهام په حقیقت بدل شي دا یو تخلف بلل کیژي او د امریکا د فوج د قانون خلاف عمل دي، او په دي ټول سر تیري خبر دي او پري باید عمل وکړي. قدرمنو تاسو ته زموږ سفارش دا دي چي د تحقیقاتو پایلو ته انتظار شی مخکي له دي چي د دي عمل په وړاندي خپل افکار تعین کړي. د ناتو ویاند دګروال نن سحار د تحقیقات د پیل رپورت یی تاید کړ او هغه وویل چي ایساف د بشري حقوقو د پایمال اتهامات په جدي توګه څیړي او که شواهد تر لاسه شي چي دا پیښه په رښتیا ترسره شوي دی، د متخلفینو سره قانوني چلند کیږي. دوستانو تاسو ته اطمنان درکوو د څیرني هر هغه معلومات چي زموږ ترلاسه شي هغه به حتما تاسو ته وړاندي کوو. دا تعهد زه تاسو ته په داسي وخت کي درکوم چي حقاني شبکه اعلان کړي چي پسله له دي هغوي د ملکي وګړو د وژلو مسولیت په غاړه نه اخلي.

                  wasn't this illegal too? lol u are a clown and if u are indeed afghan, ur only chance at redemption is jumping into a volcano.

                  There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                  Sayyid Qutb

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                  • #10
                    Dear Alchemist, I responded to your question in my last post. But since you like to ask the same question repeatedly, I would tell you that, no, it’s not okay for anyone to use civilians as human shields, and therefore it’s strictly forbidden by the US Military Code of Justice. Our soldiers do not shield themselves with innocent humans or shield themselves by dressing like innocent civilians; indeed they protect civilians by making themselves human shields to protect them from Taliban.




                    Dear Randolph85, do you not remember the trial of the individuals involved in “Kill Team?” Did you not see the decision of the court? Did you and your fellow conspiracy theorists not say that those involved would not be brought to justice? Did you not say we would not admit that these soldiers were US army? Dear readers, not only did we admit that these individuals were members of the US Army, but we sent them to trial, put them in jail, and we officially apologized for their crimes. My question for the Taliban, when did you put on trial those who kill innocent civilians on a daily basis with IED’s? When did you apologize to the mothers and fathers whose morally pure children you kidnapped and brainwashed into exploding themselves and killing others? When did you apologize for mass murdering innocent Afghans, for example in the case of the Kabul bank shooting? Kabul Bank Shooting in Jalalabad, 40 dead - YouTube

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                    • #11
                      oh yes, the trial where the man who killed that boy in cold blood got only 7 years. and will potentially be out of prison before he is 25 years old. amazing justice there. isn't it funny how the americans demand legal immunity from the puppet governments that they install?

                      noorzai, i suppose u are fine with soldiers breaking into ur home at night, handcuffing ur family members and then taking ur dad to prison because he looks like he might be someone of interest?
                      Last edited by randolph85; 10-21-2011, 03:40 PM.
                      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                      Sayyid Qutb

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