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    The lax oversight of a Joint Base Lewis-McChord Stryker unit in Afghanistan allowed mischief, misconduct and murder, an investigation shows.


    More than 75 Afghan elders filed into a meeting with U.S. Army officers early last year to deliver a disturbing message: Soldiers patrolling villages in southern Afghanistan were out of control.
    Stryker platoonmates from Joint Base Lewis-McChord were shooting dogs. They were breaking cultural taboos by searching homes with only women and children around. And they had killed two innocent young men.
    The elders said the two victims did not fit the profile of insurgents: One suffered at the hands of the Taliban because his family supported NATO forces; the other was mentally disabled.
    They didn’t deserve to die, the elders said.
    “Your soldiers lie to you,” one man told the officers. “Please investigate and find out why your soldiers in this area are treating our people badly.”
    The elders were on to something the U.S. military couldn’t yet see and wouldn’t nail down for another four months
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    Two more Afghans whom investigators say died needlessly were targeted by members of the same platoon in the 5th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division before the Army would catch on. Eventually, five soldiers were arrested on charges that they murdered civilians as part of a rogue “kill team.”
    But their alleged wrongdoing did not start with the two shootings that inflamed the Afghan elders in the January 2010 meeting recounted by a battalion civil affairs officer.
    A 532-page Army investigation obtained by The News Tribune shows it escalated over months in which the platoon idled in Afghanistan, away from the steady fighting others in the brigade had endured. Platoonmates craved whatever enemy contact they could find or manufacture, the report says.
    Meanwhile, Army commanders shuffled leaders in and out of the brigade. They lost sight of a platoon that needed close scrutiny, according to the report by Brig. Gen. Stephen Twitty.
    “Soldiers who would never make poor choices when it was known they would be held accountable for their actions were able to form their own ideas of right and wrong,” Twitty was told by Sgt. 1st Class Robert Bates, a noncommissioned officer in the battalion that oversaw the platoon in question. “People who should have been setting the example were unavailable.”
    Twitty found that the soldiers in that platoon came under fire five times in their year overseas. The Army now considers three of those engagements to be murders orchestrated by members of the platoon.
    They were in a brigade of nearly 4,000 that lost 37 soldiers in a tough year of fighting in southern Afghanistan, but they were overlooked in part because they weren’t the ones suffering casualties, Twitty found.
    “Several soldiers discussed how often they were bored due to lack of missions for days, remaining on (the base),” Twitty wrote in a report commissioned by Lewis-McChord senior Army officer Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti. “Soldiers said when they heard gunfire in the distance they wanted to go ‘get some.’”

    LAPSES IN OVERSIGHT

    Twitty’s investigation was intended to evaluate the command climate of the brigade and whether it had anything to do with the war crimes that took place in 3rd Platoon, B Company of the 2nd Battalion, 1st Infantry Regiment.
    His report, finished in March, stresses that brigade commanders could have done little to halt crimes carried out by 3rd Platoon soldiers determined to fool them. But it reveals how lapses in oversight set the conditions for the misdeeds that unfolded at Forward Operating Base Ramrod.
    The investigating one-star general found a range of misconduct and lax supervision in the 3rd Platoon during the 2009-10 deployment, including:

    • A private destroyed a housing unit on his base when he accidentally discharged a round from a grenade launcher. His squad leader had not done the correct checks to make sure all of the weapons were turned in. The private was Pfc. Andrew Holmes, one of the five “kill team” codefendants who recently pleaded guilty to killing a noncombatant.
    • The entire platoon of nearly 30 soldiers fell asleep in Stryker vehicles outside of a base after a patrol without posting a night watch. A senior noncommissioned officer caught them when he watched them through an aerial drone.
    • Leaders at multiple levels above 3rd Platoon failed to conduct routine urinalysis tests and other inspections that could have identified misconduct earlier.
    • Soldiers wrote graffiti at least once, scrawling the word “crusader” on a road crossing.
    • At least one soldier shot dogs and chickens during patrols.
    • Another soldier kept fingers from corpses in his housing unit and had access to weapons he should have turned in to his leadership. He was alleged “kill team” ringleader Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs.
    • Soldiers used their first names when they addressed their leaders and showed poor uniform care, even in the context of relaxed war-zone standards.
    • At least 15 soldiers reported smoking hashish.


    The lowest point of the misconduct was publicly revealed when five soldiers came home early from the deployment in the summer of 2010, accused of murdering three civilians during patrols with 3rd Platoon.
    Seven more soldiers were charged with other misdeeds, such as assaulting a private and smoking hashish. Nine have been convicted of various crimes over the past year; three more await courts-martial at Lewis-McChord.
    Trouble began for them well before they hit the ground in Afghanistan.
    THE LEADERSHIP
    Soldiers started making their way to Fort Lewis in 2006 to join the 5th Brigade as the Army built up the new unit.
    Like the 3rd and 4th brigades before them, 5th Brigade troops trained at the base south of Tacoma to fight in Iraq. They took pains to learn Arabic and studied tribal cultures.
    The mission changed suddenly in January 2009 when the Army announced it instead planned to send the brigade to Afghanistan the following summer – the first Stryker brigade to go to that country.
    Their leader from the outset in 2007 was Col. Harry Tunnell, who made it clear that his old-school “counterguerrilla” focus would be on destroying the enemy rather than the new-school “counterinsurgency” approach of protecting foreign civilians to “win more by fighting less.” Among the trainings he led was a session called “Sometimes War is Just War.”
    Senior officers assigned to the brigade just prior to the deployment were frustrated and confused, according to Twitty’s investigation. They were fresh from service schools where they had studied the Army’s new counterinsurgency manual.
    Some had seen the Army strategy succeed in Iraq and wanted to implement it in Afghanistan. They felt stymied by Tunnell.
    “Col. Tunnell was only interested in actions that pertained to his view, and his view was solely focused on the destruction of the enemy,” Col. William Clark told Twitty. Clark reported to Tunnell in Afghanistan as the commander of the 8th Squadron, 1st Cavalry Regiment.
    Lt. Col. Richard Demarree was the commander of the battalion that oversaw what would eventually become the “kill team” platoon. He and Tunnell did not get along. Tunnell replaced Demarree just before the deployment with a new leader, Lt. Col. Jeffrey French.
    The platoon was further splintered from the leaders it had trained with once it arrived in Afghanistan. It was attached to a troop from Clark’s cavalry regiment instead of its original infantry company, a move meant to balance different-sized units.
    None of those leaders lived near the platoon. Even the officers who shared the same base had their living quarters more than 200 meters from the soldiers, breaking from standard practice, Twitty wrote.
    As a result of those late changes, 3rd Platoon’s soldiers answered to a cavalry captain who didn’t know them.
    They belonged to a battalion commander who hadn’t seen them until just before they left for Afghanistan.
    And they reported to a brigade led by a colonel who was out of step with Army strategy.

    THE LIEUTENANT


    The cavalry troop leader, Capt. Matthew Quiggle, met his new soldiers reassigned from the 2nd Battalion just before he took them on their first mission in Afghanistan. The soldiers from 3rd Platoon were under the command of Lt. Roman Ligsay.
    Quiggle recounted how he didn’t think much of the young lieutenant that day.
    “My initial impression of Lt. Ligsay was that he was very inexperienced and a potential liability,” Quiggle told Twitty for the investigation. “As a brand-new platoon leader, he had never been on a Stryker, let alone led a platoon, and especially not in combat.”
    Ligsay’s shortcomings should have been offset by his platoon’s senior noncommissioned officer, Sgt. 1st Class Julio Bruno. But Bruno was distant early in the deployment. He suffered a traumatic brain injury and a back injury that compelled him to stay at the base while his men went outside the wire on missions.
    Army crime reports obtained by The News Tribune show that Ligsay set the wrong example for the 3rd Platoon the first time his soldiers encountered a dead body. It was a gory scene made by an Apache helicopter strike on a Taliban insurgent.
    One soldier stabbed the corpse. Others gawked and smiled with their thumbs up. Ligsay joined in one of the poses even though the Army had handed down orders barring soldiers from taking photographs of corpses for personal use.
    He has testified that he didn’t know it was wrong, and said he wanted to take the photo because it was the first corpse he saw in combat.
    Quiggle told Twitty that Ligsay’s performance improved in time, and the cavalry captain came to rely on the lieutenant for the relationships Ligsay nurtured with Afghan leaders. Ligsay was later promoted to captain, though he was censured for the misconduct that occurred on his watch.
    Back at the base, Twitty found that Ligsay wanted to be liked too much to crack down on his team.
    “Ligsay considered time on the (base) as ‘down time’ for his soldiers unless preparing for mission,” Twitty wrote. “This mindset allowed soldiers to roam the (base) and find opportunities for misconduct.”
    In hindsight, said battalion executive officer Lt. Col. David Abrahams: “I think that Lt. Ligsay’s jovial nature allowed his soldiers to take advantage of him. … I think that Lt. Ligsay is an average LT that was put into a very difficult situation that he never was able to fully contain.”
    Conditions were ripe for someone to step in and fill the leadership void.
    The soldier who would seize that opportunity was Staff Sgt. Calvin Gibbs.
    To be continued Monday.

    Adam Ashton: 253-597-8646
    adam.ashton @thenewstribune.com
    blog.thenewstribune.com/military
    CONSEQUENCES FOR THEIR ACTIONS
    An Army investigation into Joint Base Lewis-McChord soldiers who allegedly murdered Afghan civilians resulted in consequences to leaders who could have halted the misconduct earlier.
    Lewis-McChord senior Army officer Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti recommended the following punishments:
    Col. Harry Tunnell, a letter of admonition. He commanded the 5th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. The Army determined his actions did not cause the “kill team” crimes, but his combative nature led to conflicts among senior Army and NATO leaders.
    Capt. Roman Ligsay, a memorandum of reprimand, a serious censure that could end his career early. As a lieutenant, Ligsay was the platoon leader who supervised the alleged war criminals. Army investigator Brig. Gen. Stephen Twitty found that Ligsay’s performance improved over time, but he wanted to be liked too much to crack down on his soldiers.
    Sgt. 1st Class Julio Bruno, a memorandum of reprimand. He was the top noncommissioned officer in the platoon with the “kill team” soldiers. The Army determined he was distant from his soldiers and failed to discipline them.
    Capt. Patrick Mitchell, a memorandum of reprimand. Mitchell was the executive officer of the company that included the alleged war criminals. He was criticized for issuing an unclear order after a January 2010 incident that led to a soldier shooting a corpse.
    Capt. Matthew Quiggle, a letter of concern, a less serious censure. Quiggle was the company commander over the “kill team” platoon. He was cited for missing opportunities to check in on soldiers and for putting his living quarters closer to his commander instead of near his soldiers.
    Other leaders who received letters of concern were Lt. Col. Jeffrey French, Command Sgt. Maj. Paul Balmforth and Sgt. Major John Hegadush. These leaders were further up the brigade chain of command.


    Read more: The lost platoon | Stryker Brigade - The News Tribune

  • #2
    No one wants to comment on this one,pashtunforums?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
      No one wants to comment on this one,pashtunforums?
      Given the number of communists, athiests, capitalists and pro Western ideology people that I've observed here it's not surprising. Let's just play nice and avoid such subjects. I read it all very carefully... rogue "kill teams", murdering random innocent civillians for sport and recreation, shooting at animals, smoking drugs... just average Americans. What can you expect? Dignity, integrity?

      “Several soldiers discussed how often they were bored due to lack of missions for days, remaining on (the base),” Twitty wrote in a report commissioned by Lewis-McChord senior Army officer Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti. “Soldiers said when they heard gunfire in the distance they wanted to go ‘get some.’” - Wonder why there seems to be endless supply of people willing to 'give them some'?

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      • #4
        For those with the time and patience to read the entire article, there is plenty of information here... http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/01/ma...pagewanted=all

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        • #5
          Thank You for the article dear Nurzai!
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          Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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          • #6
            Originally posted by randolph85
            don't worry guys, our friend noorzai is coming up with a response that will put all our minds at ease. we will come to understand that all this is completely false or that its in fact legit but there is a perfectly good reason for all this that our small minds haven't grasped yet. afterwards, that guy who in his avatar looks like he was born out of wedlock from a khalqi call girl and a russian serviceman, will thank noorzai for opening our eyes.
            I apologize for apparently being from same tribe as this man.

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            • #7
              sgt calvin gibbs mentioned in the article is on bbc on trial for murdering afghans. Today is Oct 31, 2011.. i live in Canada.. I have seen that some white canadians are good hearted people but many are senseless without sense of direction usually doing what they feel like. a kid in the neighborhood fried his pets in a microwave and another man angry at his neighbor fried his cat in the microwave..this may seem bizzare but i am telling the truth and relates to the sensless killing of afghans..
              if you put yourself in their shoes that there is no God and hence no accountability
              then basically life is short and nothing is normal to you and your actions will be
              astray....hope i made sense

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pakhtoon View Post
                sgt calvin gibbs mentioned in the article is on bbc on trial for murdering afghans. Today is Oct 31, 2011.. i live in Canada.. I have seen that some white canadians are good hearted people but many are senseless without sense of direction usually doing what they feel like. a kid in the neighborhood fried his pets in a microwave and another man angry at his neighbor fried his cat in the microwave..this may seem bizzare but i am telling the truth and relates to the sensless killing of afghans..
                if you put yourself in their shoes that there is no God and hence no accountability
                then basically life is short and nothing is normal to you and your actions will be
                astray....hope i made sense
                You made perfect sense. Entire situation is just sad and disgusting. The sadistic behavior that you refer to, I believe, is becoming increasingly more common in their world and I do believe it is largely a result of exactly what you said; lack of direction in life and no true belief in Allah (swt) or anything else for that matter. Most of them are born and raised without an identity, without a culture, without any direction and without the belief that they will ever be held accountable for their actions. This lays the foundation for a human being that is little more than floating space junk. They're lost, angry and have nothing to lose. Combine the intense individualism currently being taught to children in the West with a lost, angry person with no identity, no direction and you have a recipe for disaster. Is it any wonder that many of them seem to be perpetually looking for conflict with others and take the opportunity to abuse or humiliate anything or anybody weaker than themselves? Anyway, the mention of torturing innocent animals as a common occurence in their society is just the product of a disease much deeper and more complicated than can be discussed in this thread. And the irony is that Westerners often view us as primitive, barbaric, backwards, etc. It would serve them well to take a long analytical look into their own society and culture at every level.
                Edited to add: The simple way of putting it is that all of this is connected. The mentality behind the actions that you mention AND the actions of Sgt. Calvin Gibbs and Co. it's all connected.
                Last edited by Zmarak; 10-31-2011, 02:01 AM. Reason: summary

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                • #9
                  They have kidnapped a beautiful girl from my neighbour village its been for a long while she has never returned back.
                  Her family joined the taliban openly.
                  They came with a helicopter took her in (it was a blackhawk) for no reason.
                  High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                    They have kidnapped a beautiful girl from my neighbour village its been for a long while she has never returned back.
                    Her family joined the taliban openly.
                    They came with a helicopter took her in (it was a blackhawk) for no reason.
                    Wror when was this , what district village?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                      They have kidnapped a beautiful girl from my neighbour village its been for a long while she has never returned back.
                      Her family joined the taliban openly.
                      They came with a helicopter took her in (it was a blackhawk) for no reason.
                      any evidence for this, links? why wasn't it in the news?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                        No one wants to comment on this one,pashtunforums?
                        Originally posted by Nurzai View Post
                        Given the number of communists, athiests, capitalists and pro Western ideology people that I've observed here it's not surprising

                        The very reason why the "communists, atheists, capitalists, baby-eaters and pro Western ideology people" oppose the Taliban and Al-Qaeda is that their indifference to human life and human dignity knows no bounds. If the Americans stoop even below that level, what makes you believe that any rational person would condone that sort of behaviour, let alone support it?

                        The fact is that the Pashtun people have to choose between marauding Talibans and their Arab and Punjabi mentors and masters or the "moderates" and their crusading American allies. It's like having to choose between dozakh and jahanam.

                        The Punjabis, Arabs and least of all, the Americans are not the friends of Pashtun people. They have their interests and the Pashtun people are a mere means to an end for their brutal foreigners. Until the day Pashtuns can identify their friends and enemies properly and then act on that knowledge, they will continue to be the most backward and most unfortunate people in the world.

                        A group of Arabs attack New York and what happens as a result? Innocent Pashtuns are dying by the thousands. Doesn't anyone realize that something is very, very wrong here?
                        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                        • #13
                          More than out of control they treated people like flies and dirt.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                            A group of Arabs attack New York and what happens as a result? Innocent Pashtuns are dying by the thousands. Doesn't anyone realize that something is very, very wrong here?

                            Prove it.

                            A group of jews and zionist christians from the elite launch a false flag attack, and Innocent Pashtuns are dying by the thousands. Doesn't anyone realize that something is very, very wrong here ?

                            Never heard of "The Tonkin incident" ? It was a false flag attack to invade Vietnam.


                            Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                            A group of Arabs attack New York and what happens as a result? Innocent Pashtuns are dying by the thousands. Doesn't anyone realize that something is very, very wrong here?
                            Arabs are not to blame, Americans are to blame. It was not arabs who attacked Pashtuns.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post

                              Prove it.

                              A group of jews and zionist christians from the elite launch a false flag attack, and Innocent Pashtuns are dying by the thousands. Doesn't anyone realize that something is very, very wrong here ?

                              Never heard of "The Tonkin incident" ? It was a false flag attack to invade Vietnam.


                              Arabs are not to blame, Americans are to blame. It was not arabs who attacked Pashtuns.

                              Yes, and the Reichstag fire, the sinking of Lusitania and so on and so forth.

                              Fine, Khaled Sheikh Mohammad did not plan 9/11. Nor did Osama bin Laden fund it. The 400 Jews who did not show up for work on 9/11 did it. However, Al-Qaeda did attack the American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania and they did, in fact, attack the USS Cole - all three actions being open declarations of war. They did all of this while taking sanctuary in Afghanistan.

                              And when the US came to Afghanistan looking for them, each and every one of them fled like the Quraish of ancient Mecca that they are and took refuge in Pakistan with their Punjabi masters. They left millions of Pashtuns exposed to vengeful and bloodthirsty rednecks, cowboys and other degenerates.

                              If Brezinski is guilty of setting the bear-trap in Afghanistan for the Soviets in 1979, Al-Qaeda is guilty of setting an eagle-trap in Afghanistan for the United States in 2001. They both wanted to defeat their enemies using Pashtun blood. But enough is enough. Pashtuns should wake up and identify their enemies.
                              "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                              "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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