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  • Imran Khan gaining ground in KP, FATA

    http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2011...nd-in-kp-fata/
    SAJJAD ALI Sunday, 16 Oct 2011 12:14 am

    Several influential politicians likely to join the party; Analysts say PTI capitalising on the gap created by other parties due to poor security situation; Former PTI members say party plays immature politics

    PESHAWAR - Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf (PTI) chief Imran Khan is aggressively trying to secure his position in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) and the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) for the next elections and could likely win the support of some influential politicians, Pakistan Today has learnt.

    Among those considering joining the PTI are a dissident MNA of the Awami National Party (ANP), Khuwaja Muhammad Khan Hoti, KP Irrigation Minister Pervez Khattak of the Pakistan People’s Party-Sherpao (PPP-S) from Nowshera, PPP-S member Israrullah Khan from Dera Ismail Khan, former PPP minister Iftikhar Khan Jhagra from Nowshera, and former KP minister Shujaat Ali Khan from Swat, sources in the PTI said.

    The PTI chief would visit Mardan on Monday to hold a meeting with Hoti, who would either join the PTI or announce a date for joining, sources close to Hoti said. Hoti’s personal secretary Mehrab Gul and a PTI spokesman both confirmed the meeting between the two, saying the coming days would reveal a clearer picture. As Imran Khan has claimed to make a clean sweep in the next polls at both national and provincial levels, a lot depends on his party’s planning and management ahead of the elections.

    Sources said the party’s strategy included winning the support of several sitting ministers and provincial legislators; however their names would not be disclosed before the party took its final decision. Political experts say Imran has been showing maturity in his political manoeuvres, and the people of KP wanted a bold and patriotic leader like Imran. Aqeel Yousafzai, a senior journalist and analyst, said all major parties, including the PPP and ANP, were disconnected because of poor security situation.
    He said the PTI was capitalising on this communication gap and enhancing its vote bank in the province and in FATA, where Imran had easier access than other parties because of softer views on militancy. PTI sources also confirmed party contacts with provincial minister Pervez Khattak, MPA Israrullah Khan Gandapur, and former minister Iftikhar Jhagra. However Khattak denied contacts with the PTI.

    PTI KP Information Secretary Zahid Hussain
    said the party’s growing popularity had attracted several prominent personalities and raised hopes for better results in the elections. He said numerous former candidates for national and provincial assemblies were willing to join the party, which would accept only those who joined without any preconditions such as demanding tickets to contest elections. Hussain said the party would set up an impartial parliamentary board, which would decide the party candidates for elections.

    Former MPA from Nowshera Qurban Ali Khan, who recently joined the PTI, said Imran had the courage to take a clear stance on the so-called war against terror and on other national issues. He said Imran’s courage had convinced him to join the party without preconditions. PTI KP President Asad Qaiser said the party was developing contacts in the southern parts of KP, as well as FATA, Peshawar and Charsadda. He said numerous influential figures from those areas would join the PTI in the next couple of weeks.

    A PTI source said that Saleem Jan, former chief executive of the Bank of Punjab and a relative of Asfandyar Wali, would also join the PTI in upcoming days. However Jan refused to comment when contacted. Among others who have announced their affiliation with the PTI are: former ambassador to Afghanistan Rustam Shah Mohmand, Maj General (r) Taj-ul-Haq, Justice (r) Burhanuddin, former MPA Zafarullah Marwat, Omar Farooq Hoti, former provincial health minister Dr Mehr Taj Roghani and her husband Dilawar Shah Roghani. Despite the large number of people joining the PTI, some of its former members say the party is politically immature.
    Nawabzada Mohsin Ali Khan, former PTI KP president and former provincial finance minister, said the party played immature politics. “Imran decides on everything without consulting the party members, therefore people leave them after having a bad experience,” he remarked. He said those joining the PTI were immature and had been rejected by their parties.

    Some influential figures who quit the PTI after developing differences with its chief include: Minister for Higher Education Qazi Asad, Pakistan Patriotic Movement founder Abdul Rashed Yousafzai, former vice chancellor of Malakand University, Swat Dr Farooq (late), and former KP governor Owais Ghani.

  • #2
    he might break away the vote bank from all the parties a bit but he is nowhere close to a clean sweep
    It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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    • #3
      He cannot win even a single seat---this trojan horse for Punajb's interest...

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      • #4
        He was born in Punjab, so was his dad, so was his grandfather. So after that many generations he is basically Punjabi.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by sanman View Post
          He was born in Punjab, so was his dad, so was his grandfather. So after that many generations he is basically Punjabi.
          Doesn't he claim to be a Pukhtun?
          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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          • #6
            Fair enough - and he built a hospital, so that's good

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            • #7
              Imran Khan is a stooge of the ISI. He is using the emotions of the tribal people for its own gains in politics.

              Last i can recall, a Mahsud tribesmen calling him a fake Pashtun in Islamabad.

              He will use the people for his own personal interests

              He supports Sharia in Swat and Tribal region under Taliban while his own children are being educated in luxurious secular education, he hates the west, but visits the west to collect donations from Muslims in the West, he praises the Taliban but never condems the suicide bombings and attacks on Schools in the Pashtun region.

              He is based in Punjab!
              Last edited by Soldat_Amir; 10-20-2011, 03:48 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sanman View Post
                He was born in Punjab, so was his dad, so was his grandfather. So after that many generations he is basically Punjabi.
                His dad was born in mianwali district which is dominated by pashtuns belonging to the niazi tribe.So he has pashtun blood in him.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by asif86 View Post
                  His dad was born in mianwali district which is dominated by pashtuns belonging to the niazi tribe.So he has pashtun blood in him.
                  Which Pashtun flys to a funeral of a Hindkowan riots/looter who opposed the renaming of NWFP to Pakhtunkhwa, oh yes, its Imran Khan.

                  Hes a stooge of ISI looking for vote, EDHi will tell you the same!

                  He is the student of Hamid gul, a pro Pak ISI lunatic who supports the Taliban while his clean shaven backside is sat at home with his modern dressed family!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                    Imran Khan is a stooge of the ISI. He is using the emotions of the tribal people for its own gains in politics.
                    Pakhair Sanga e? Welcome to the forum. I hope you are enjoying your stay here.

                    What's your proof that Imran Khan is a stooge of ISI? Emotions of the common people is used by the politicians to get popularity. If you want to be popular as a politician you should understand the emotion of the people. Gains in Politics? Well after all he is a politician!!

                    Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                    Last i can recall, a Mahsud tribesmen calling him a fake Pashtun in Islamabad.
                    When where?

                    Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                    He will use the people for his own personal interests
                    Are you predicting the future? How can we believe that your prophecy will be 101% correct?

                    Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                    He supports Sharia in Swat and Tribal region under Taliban while his own children are being educated in luxurious secular education, he hates the west, but visits the west to collect donations from Muslims in the West, he praises the Taliban but never condems the suicide bombings and attacks on Schools in the Pashtun region.
                    The people of Swat in the beginning supported the Sharia System, did you forget it? So whatever Imran Khan said at that time was right. The people should choose under which system they want to live. When the people of Swat wanted to get rid of the *******s he was the first one to support the IDP's and raise their voice.
                    Hating the West and going there, living there are entirely two different things. He hates the policies of the West in this part of the world.


                    Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                    He is based in Punjab!
                    And what does that mean? He is based in Punjab? I guess he lives currently in Islamabad!! What do you mean by based in Punjab?
                    yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View Post
                      Pakhair Sanga e? Welcome to the forum. I hope you are enjoying your stay here.

                      What's your proof that Imran Khan is a stooge of ISI? Emotions of the common people is used by the politicians to get popularity. If you want to be popular as a politician you should understand the emotion of the people. Gains in Politics? Well after all he is a politician!!


                      When where?


                      Are you predicting the future? How can we believe that your prophecy will be 101% correct?



                      The people of Swat in the beginning supported the Sharia System, did you forget it? So whatever Imran Khan said at that time was right. The people should choose under which system they want to live. When the people of Swat wanted to get rid of the *******s he was the first one to support the IDP's and raise their voice.
                      Hating the West and going there, living there are entirely two different things. He hates the policies of the West in this part of the world.



                      And what does that mean? He is based in Punjab? I guess he lives currently in Islamabad!! What do you mean by based in Punjab?

                      So your saying the people of Swat supported Fazullahs Sharia?

                      So how come 100s were hanged, beaten in public and crucified for speaking against Fazullah, when Napak army gave them their Sharia. I think your the first person to say the people of Swat supported Sharia, my friends in Swat, would disagree with that, I can recall them telling me how Napak soldiers were hanging about a few metres away from a Taliban check post, seems very fishy to me to be honest.

                      Yes I would agree, there was a need for fast justice in Swat, with a class issue problem too, however, once the square was renamed the bloody square,thats for a good reason! ISI helped the Swat Taliban into the position that it is, and anyone from Swat will tell you this, unless they have an connection with the Pakistani Army.

                      When I mean based in Punjab, I mean hes sitting in Punjab and dictating policies on behalf of Taliban, while he himself has zero experience living under them.

                      Why do I say hes a ISI stooge? is because

                      1) Hamid gul is his mentor, and wasnt he some general of the ISI
                      2) He supports Afghan Taliban, ISI seems to be the only supporters of Afghan Taliban


                      and...........

                      Youtube this...........Imran Khan and Hamid Gul Threaten Edhi to join PTI - YouTube


                      the above should give you some idea of what I am trying to say.

                      Not only this, Hasnt Immy Khan become cosy with the MQM lately, what happened to his anger for them? hmmmm typical Pakistani politics.

                      Imran Khan popularlity will remain in the hands of his masters the ISI, what he says, resembles their policies towards the Pashtun people.

                      Pro Pak supporters who happen to come from Pakhtunkhwa such as yourself will naturally resort to emotional tantrums in support of Imran Khan, as your friends in the ISI have appointed him to represent the likes of you.

                      He uses the peoples emotions in the Wrong way, he sits living a secular lifestyle in Punjab, while he promotes the Emotional sentiments of the Jamiet.
                      Last edited by Soldat_Amir; 10-20-2011, 11:07 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                        So your saying the people of Swat supported Fazullahs Sharia?
                        Yes, they supported it .. They gave donations to them they welcomed them.

                        Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                        So how come 100s were hanged, beaten in public and crucified for speaking against Fazullah, when Napak army gave them their Sharia. I think your the first person to say the people of Swat supported Sharia, my friends in Swat, would disagree with that, I can recall them telling me how Napak soldiers were hanging about a few metres away from a Taliban check post, seems very fishy to me to be honest.
                        Haha, yes and when they were hanged they came to know the bitter facts about Fazlullah. And I've been to Swat during the IDP's time and I've seen women who gave their 'kaalay' gold to Fazlullah and destroyed their TV's just on one order. Seems fishy to everyone.


                        Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                        Yes I would agree, there was a need for fast justice in Swat, with a class issue problem too, however, once the square was renamed the bloody square,thats for a good reason! ISI helped the Swat Taliban into the position that it is, and anyone from Swat will tell you this, unless they have an connection with the Pakistani Army.
                        Yes fast justice .. ISI helped them how? Why for which purpose?


                        Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                        When I mean based in Punjab, I mean hes sitting in Punjab and dictating policies on behalf of Taliban, while he himself has zero experience living under them.
                        That's what you think the rest of Pakhtunkhwa and I mean the majority of Pakhtunkhwa won't agree with you on this.


                        Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                        Why do I say hes a ISI stooge? is because

                        1) Hamid gul is his mentor, and wasnt he some general of the ISI
                        2) He supports Afghan Taliban, ISI seems to be the only supporters of Afghan Taliban


                        and...........

                        Youtube this...........Imran Khan and Hamid Gul Threaten Edhi to join PTI - YouTube


                        the above should give you some idea of what I am trying to say.

                        Hamid Gul is his mentor? What's Hamid Gul to PTI?
                        Eidhi praises MQM do you agree with Eidhi on that.


                        Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                        Not only this, Hasnt Immy Khan become cosy with the MQM lately, what happened to his anger for them? hmmmm typical Pakistani politics.
                        He cosy to MQM?? Haha :D Re-Read his statement you are referring to? !! You will get the point.


                        Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                        Imran Khan popularlity will remain in the hands of his masters the ISI, what he says, resembles their policies towards the Pashtun people.
                        That's again your statement? You OWN statement.


                        Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                        Pro Pak supporters who happen to come from Pakhtunkhwa such as yourself will naturally resort to emotional tantrums in support of Imran Khan, as your friends in the ISI have appointed him to represent the likes of you.
                        Well, I will and many like me would love to see him in the President House. He could be no worst than Asfandyar Wali Khan and Amir Haider Hoti


                        Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View Post
                        He uses the peoples emotions in the Wrong way, he sits living a secular lifestyle in Punjab, while he promotes the Emotional sentiments of the Jamiet.
                        He is not living in Punjab .. He is not promoting any sentiment of Jamiat..
                        yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!

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