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  • #46
    Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
    Because the Qur'an uses mutashabbah for those verses, there is no mutashabbah for this hadith.

    Where did you get this information ?
    Are you a messenger of God ? How do you know these verses uses mutashabbah and others don't ? How do you know this hadith doesn't use mutashabbah ? Why should your opinion have more importance than a 5 yo kid ?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post

      Where did you get this information ?
      Are you a messenger of God ? How do you know these verses uses mutashabbah and others don't ? How do you know this hadith doesn't use mutashabbah ? Why should your opinion have more importance than a 5 yo kid ?
      because of the way the arabic language is constructed. These are the properties of how the arabic linguistic structure is organized as.

      The hadith doesn't have mutashabbah because it's a commandment, commandments are always direct.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
        because of the way the arabic language is constructed. These are the properties of how the arabic linguistic structure is organized as.

        The hadith doesn't have mutashabbah because it's a commandment, commandments are always direct.

        Can you explain to me how the verse about creation of Adam & Eve is constructed and where did you find in the Qur'an that because it is constructed this way it means it's metaphorical ? Is there a grammar codex in the Qur'an i've never heard of ?

        Are the verses about hell metaphorical ?
        Why are commandements always direct and why is the genesis metaphorical ? Do you have a proof of it ? Are you a messenger of God ? Where is it written in the Qur'an ?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post

          Can you explain to me how the verse about creation of Adam & Eve is constructed and where did you find in the Qur'an that because it is constructed this way it means it's metaphorical ? Is there a grammar codex in the Qur'an i've never heard of ?



          Study Tafsir Al-Kashhaf by Al-Zamakhshari



          Are the verses about hell metaphorical ?
          Why are commandements always direct and why is the genesis metaphorical ?
          The commands are always direct because they deal with things of the dunya, not things of the Ghaib.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
            Study Tafsir Al-Kashhaf by Al-Zamakhshari
            Is Al-Kashhaf by Al-Zamakhshari a prophet of God ? Why should I listen to this minoritary persian khawarij Muʿtazilt apostate instead of Imams who follow sunnah ? Why would his opinion matter more than great scholars ones like Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi'i, Imam Ibn Hanbal or Imam Malik ?

            Why should I listen to the opinion of an apostate who said that the Qur'an was created and not eternal therefore that muslims are Idolatring a creation by worshipping a created book ?


            Why should I leave the sunnah and follow your sect ?


            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
            The commands are always direct because they deal with things of the dunya, not things of the Ghaib.
            Where is it written in the Qur'an that things of the dunya are always direct and things of the Ghaib are not ?

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post
              [B]Is Al-Kashhaf by Al-Zamakhshari a prophet of God ? Why should I listen to this minoritary persian khawarij Muʿtazilt apostate instead of Imams who follow sunnah ? Why would his opinion matter more than great scholars ones like Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi'i, Imam Ibn Hanbal or Imam Malik ?
              because all the Tafsir depends on his Tafsir By the way, Khawarij are people like yourself. Mu'tazlah can't be consider khawarij by definition.Go study this





              Why should I leave the sunnah and follow your sect ?
              You shouldn't, you should follow the commands of Nabi(saw) he said you can't spill a Muslims blood except for three cases.


              [B]Where is it written in the Qur'an that things of the dunya are always direct and things of the Ghaib are not ?

              That's the definition of the Ghaib and the physical world( dunya)

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post
                Why should I listen to this minoritary persian khawarij Muʿtazilt apostate instead of Imams who follow sunnah ? Why would his opinion matter more than great scholars ones like Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi'i, Imam Ibn Hanbal or Imam Malik ?
                Al-Kashshaaf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                Al-Kashshaaf 'an Haqa'iq at-Tanzil, popularly known as Al-Kashshaaf ("the Revealer", al-Kashāf, Arabic: الكشاف‎) is a seminal tafsir (commentary on the Qur'an) by Al-Zamakhshari written in the 12th century. Considered a primary source by all major scholars, it is famous for its deep linguistic analysis, demonstrations of the supremacy of declamation of the Quran, and the representation of the method the Quran uses to convey meaning using literary elements and figurative speech.

                if he was an Apostate why do all Major scholars use his works?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                  because all the Tafsir depends on his Tafsir By the way, Khawarij are people like yourself. Mu'tazlah can't be consider khawarij by definition

                  Go do some study.

                  You shouldn't, you should follow the commands of Nabi(saw) he said you can't spill a Muslims blood except for three cases.

                  That's the definition of the Ghaib and the physical world( dunya)

                  hahahaha, no need to make you even more ashamed, i'll stop now

                  You are a munafiq who believes in evolution, follows the heretical Mu'tazilat school which was erradicated in the 13th century by the orthodox Sunni Ashʻari school of thought, who lies constantly and uses insults on a regular basis but accuses others muslims who do the same to not follow Sharia. You pretend that Hizbi Islami = less than 300 people in Afghanistan are the only true muslims among 29 millions of Afghans. You said I was not Moroccan, I proved you were wrong in front of everybody but you keep on spewing your bull****. You are on this website 24 hours a day. You have no life, you are a liar a troll and an evolutionnist. Back to your biology and stop bothering us with your constant verbal diarrhea

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post

                    hahahaha, no need to make you even more ashamed, i'll stop now

                    You are a munafiq who believes in evolution, follows the heretical Mu'tazilat school which was erradicated in the 13th century by the orthodox Sunni Ashʻari school of thought, who lies constantly and uses insults on a regular basis but accuses others muslims who do the same to not follow Sharia. You pretend that Hizbi Islami = less than 300 people in Afghanistan are the only true muslims among 29 millions of Afghans. You said I was not Moroccan, I proved you were wrong in front of everybody but you keep on spewing your bull****. You are on this website 24 hours a day. You have no life, you are a liar a troll and an evolutionnist. Back to your biology and stop bothering us with your constant verbal diarrhea


                    But if it was heretical, how come the scholars use Mu'tazilah work; even Ash'ari was a Mut'azilah and many Mu'tazilah ideas remain in 'Ash'ariyah.

                    where did I say Hizbi Islami are the only MUslims? I said they resist NATO and the Taliban.

                    And if Evolution is heretical how come Al-Jahiz and Al-Nizzam expressed evolution and none of the Ulama condemned them?

                    and your Passport you were blanked out the face and the name; so it could hve been anybody's so your claim of being Moroccan is still ambiguous

                    you don't speak any of the main languages of Morocco, Arabic or Berber.

                    You are brainwashed and uneducated and don't know what you're talking about; talk when you have an education

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                      taliban are created by the ISI-CIA if anyone supports it, it's you guys
                      Why is Emkhan not fighting for the Taliban if he thinks they are so good and fighting an imperialist power.

                      Mr Edge, people like Emkhan's point of view starts with 9/11 and ends with Pakistans independence day.

                      Emkhan, never mentions, the time Taliban "WERE IN POWER" how those proxies, allowed Western businessmen with Baber, to visit Kandahar for plans for a planned oil pipe, how Taliban were invited to America, to discuss Unocol oil pipe deal etc.

                      EmKhan, Taliban are a imperialistic/oppressive power themselves.

                      Do us all a favor, please put some Taliban ministers in your Pakistan Punjab, and lets see how the public reacts.

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