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  • Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post
    NOPE.avi

    it says "stay in your houses"

    if they were allowed to participate in society, it wouldn't have said "stay in your houses"


    Your brain is completely dysfonctionnal and you are able to see the false in the truth. You are misguided. Pray so Allah SWT will open your eyes and ask him to lead you to the straight path because you are very far from it.

    read what afghnistan2010 posted from Ibn Kathir

    (And stay in your houses,) means, stay in your houses and do not come out except for a purpose.
    How can it mean stay in their houses when the tafsir says they can come out if hey have a reason to?


    so are the wives of he Prophet also Misguided according to you?


    Narrated Anas: The Prophet saw the women and children (of the Ansar) coming forward. (The sub-narrator said, "I think that Anas said, 'They were returning from a wedding party.") The Prophet stood up and said thrice, "By Allah! You are from the most beloved people to me." [Sahih Bukhari]
    Narrated Asma' bint Abu Bakr: I came to 'Aisha the wife of the Prophet during the solar eclipse. The people were standing and offering the prayer and she was also praying. I asked her, "What is wrong with the people?" She beckoned with her hand towards the sky and said, "Subhan Allah." I asked her, "Is there a sign?" " (Book #4, Hadith #184)

    if he Qur'an was saying stay secluded; then we wouldn't have these hadiths where Asmaa is traveling to see 'Aisha or women of the Ansar going to wedding in public

    The one who doesn't see the truth is you ...you ignore the references of Islam
    Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 10-10-2011, 09:24 AM.

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    • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
      read what afghnistan2010 posted from Ibn Kathir
      How can it mean stay in their houses when the tafsir says they can come out if hey have a reason to?
      Your case is desperate.

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      • Originally posted by Al Hanif View Post
        Your case is desperate.


        haha you can' refute me; you were wrong because you're ignorant about the deen

        Learn Islam first, then talk about what is Shari'ah.

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        • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
          Thank you!!! ...You proved my point; thy were NOT confined to their houses; but allowed to leave their house and participate in society!!!!!
          you failed again....you ask yourself now HOW ?, which error did i do now ?

          i will show you...if you read , read carefully from top to end i will refute you again by your own words...your situation is really desperate i wouldnt laugh about for we are serious with you.

          let us continue reading the tafsir i presented where it says:


          One of the purposes mentioned in Shari`ah is prayer in the Masjid, so long as the conditions are fulfilled, as the Messenger of Allah said:
          «لَا تَمْنَعُوا إِمَاءَ اللهِ مَسَاجِدَ اللهِ وَلْيَخْرُجْنَ وَهُنَّ تَفِلَات»
          (Do not prevent the female servants of Allah from the Masjids of Allah, but have them go out without wearing fragrance.) According to another report:
          «وَبُيُوتُهُنَّ خَيْرٌ لَهُن»
          (even though their houses are better for them.)
          ﴿وَلاَ تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَـهِلِيَّةِ الاٍّولَى﴾
          (and do not Tabarruj yourselves like the Tabarruj of the times of ignorance,) Mujahid said: "Women used to go out walking in front of men, and this was the Tabarruj of Jahiliyyah.'' Qatadah said:
          ﴿وَلاَ تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَـهِلِيَّةِ الاٍّولَى﴾
          (and do not Tabarruj yourselves like the Taburruj of the times of ignorance,) "When they go out of their homes walking in a shameless and flirtatious manner, and Allah, may He be exalted, forbade that.'' Muqatil bin Hayyan said:
          ﴿وَلاَ تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَـهِلِيَّةِ الاٍّولَى﴾
          (and do not Tabarruj yourselves like the Tabarruj of the times of ignorance,) "Tabarruj is when a woman puts a Khimar on her head but does not tie it properly.'' So her necklaces, earrings and neck, and all of that can be seen. This is Tabarruj, and Allah addresses all the women of the believers with regard to Tabarruj.


          And this was the ruling during the era of the great and only Islamic Emirate since hundreds of years.


          High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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          • Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
            read what afghnistan2010 posted from Ibn Kathir



            How can it mean stay in their houses when the tafsir says they can come out if hey have a reason to?


            so are the wives of he Prophet also Misguided according to you?







            if he Qur'an was saying stay secluded; then we wouldn't have these hadiths where Asmaa is traveling to see 'Aisha or women of the Ansar going to wedding in public

            The one who doesn't see the truth is you ...you ignore the references of Islam
            Going to Weddings was never forbidden for women or men,because we saw taliban commanders and footsoldiers during one of the weddings in 2005.They even watched the attan,which was only followed by Dohl/Drums and no music.

            You have only two hadiths ?...poor

            while you even dont read them again carefully...
            the one talks about a PRAYER GOING TO PRAYER is allowed for women to go outside to the Masajids.

            the third is talking about the Eid Prayer ...again as above.

            desperate.
            High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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            • Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
              you failed again....you ask yourself now HOW ?, which error did i do now ?



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              yeah which is to do with tabarruj, not merely a woman going outside of her house and particpating in society

              different subject

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              • Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                Going to Weddings was never forbidden for women or men,because we saw taliban commanders and footsoldiers during one of the weddings in 2005.They even watched the attan,which was only followed by Dohl/Drums and no music.

                You have only two hadiths ?...poor

                while you even dont read them again carefully...
                the one talks about a PRAYER GOING TO PRAYER is allowed for women to go outside to the Masajids.

                the third is talking about the Eid Prayer ...again as above.

                desperate.
                How do they go to weddings if they don't leave their houses? So clearly you're contradicting yourself

                the three hadiths proves Taliban didn't follow Islam

                and the third isn't talking about eid prayer it's talking about Solar Eclipse

                didn't you read the hadith? ..

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