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  • #76
    I advise you to listen one of the lectures of said qutb (rah)....and then compare it to usama or any other like abdullah azzam (you will see no differences in their views).
    High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
      He was a pious, practicing Muslim but, at the same time, he was an outspoken critic of theocratic rule.


      How can he be a muslim and against the laws of Allah SWT ?

      Are you aware that saying you are a muslim doesn't automatically make you a muslim ?

      Especially, if you are against the laws of Allah SWT you are not a muslim but an apostate.

      The example to follow in religion is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and not some kind of anti-jihad pacifist mumbo jumbo.

      The example to follow as a state is Madinah city state during Prophet Muhammad's rule (pbuh), which was a pure theocracy.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
        I advise you to listen one of the lectures of said qutb (rah)....and then compare it to usama or any other like abdullah azzam (you will see no differences in their views).


        Sayid Qutb's ideas reject the Taliban's because Sayid Qutb, advocated science and knowledge and also restoring women's rights to the time of the Nabi(saw)

        Taliban's ideology comes from Deoband

        Conservative/puritan criticism went further, condemning Qutb's Islamist/reformist ideas—such as social justice and redistributive economics,[67][68][69] banning of slavery,—as "western" and bid'ah or innovative (innovations to Islam being forbidden ipso facto). They have accused Qutb of amateur scholarship, overuse of ijtihad, innovation in Ijma (which Qutb felt should not be limited to scholars, but should be conducted by all Muslims[70]), declaring unlawful what Allah has made lawful,[71][72] assorted mistakes in aqeedah (belief) and manhaj (methodology).[73]

        Taliban believe that Mullahs should rule over people and decide how to conclude from the Qur'an
        Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 10-08-2011, 12:58 PM.

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        • #79
          Teaching somebody is only possible if the teacher fulfills himself what he wants to teach.
          If a teacher is to weak to fullfill what he teaches he won't be a respected teacher.
          If somebody considers something right and wants others to do same way - than the best way is to show how.
          Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
          Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

          Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
          Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

          Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
          Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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          • #80
            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
            Here's a Non-Western source

            'Taliban child soldiers' tell their stories - 1 Aug 09 - YouTube


            real proof

            Taliban are some of the biggest cowards on the Earth
            i just saw some seconds.
            are you for real ?
            anyone can claim he's a talib and do wrongs using thier name, any one can lie and make stories and first of all the talibs in the other side are abit wrong, bald pal you wasted your time on youtube for nothing.

            well let me slap you in the face with this REAL PROOF FROM THE TALIBAN SITE.

            Monday, 11 April 2011 07:22 -
            Statement of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Regarding Civilian Casualties and Losses at the hand of the EnemyAs in the past, the propaganda outfits of the enemy claim now time and again that the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan use children and adolescents in their Jihadic operations. They also claim that there are a great number of children in the ranks of the Mujahideen. We would like to make it clear for all that the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan has strictly banned participation of adolescents in Jihadic operations as per its policy. The 12th article of the Book of Conduct of Mujahideen, gives Mujahideen the following guidance in this regard:

            “Article 29: The teenagers (boys with no beards) are legally banned to stay in hostels and military centers with Mujahideen.”

            Abiding by the instructions of the Books of Conduct in their dispensation of Jihadic activities, the Mujahideen have strictly seen to the implementation of the articles of the Book of Conduct of Mujahideen, by not allowing youngsters to join their ranks. Despite these realities, if the enemy is still bent on circulating futile claims or some propaganda outfits continue harping on the same issue, then it can be said, it is only their propaganda stunt. It is a matter of irony that nothing is said about the Kabul Puppet Regime regarding this issue while almost half of their security personnel comprise of adolescents. According to an estimate, 45% of police, public security units and private security companies personnel consist of either children or adolescents. These children have joined the ranks of the enemy on the enemy’s luring, taking advantage of their ignorance and lack of knowledge. They have never joined the ranks out of any rationale motive.

            The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan calls on human rights organizations to pay attention to this issue and prevent the enemy from using the adolescents of the Afghan nation for furthering their unlawful goals.

            Qari Mohammad Yousaf Ahmadi
            Spokesman,
            http://www.shahamat-english.com/inde...ments&Itemid=4
            now what?

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            • #81
              some old new...
              Statement of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan Regarding Civilian Casualties and Losses at the hand of the Enemy.

              Recently, a new increase has been noticed in civilian’s casualties at the hands of the invaders and their surrogates in different regions of Afghanistan, occurred as a result of blind bombardment, night raids, pointblank firing and other various attacks and brutalities. A great number of civilian Afghans fall prey to these atrocities on day to day basis.
              From the beginning of the current year, Americans have martyred and wounded a great number of innocent Afghans in Helmand, Kahdahar, Kunduz, Kunar, Laghman, Khust provinces and other areas of the country during operations and attacks. On 18 February last, Americans martyred more than 100 civilians , many of them children, in Ghazi Abad , Kunar province as a result of a brutal bombardment. A few days after the event, the Americans repeated the crime in Manugai district of the province by killing nine innocent children. Similarly, Americans nights raids and bombardment have been continuing in most parts of south, east-south and far-flung eastern regions of the country, causing high civilian casualties every day. Unfortunately, even 10% of the casualties are not reported in the media. Below, we are going to mention some of the casualties that have been reported in the media:

              January:
              On January 2, during American aerial bombardment in Shal area of Asmar district, Kunar province, two children including a women were martyred while on January 8, three civilians martyred in Tary area, Manugai district, Kunar province as a result of bombardment. On January 16, four civilians lost their lives during aerial bombardment in Juzareen village, Tangai Dara, Sayed Abad district, Maidan Wardack province. Similarly, on 24 January, in Pulle Alam area of Logar province; two of our common countrymen were martyred in a mountain when they were busy extracting construction stones.

              February:
              On February 4, the invaders martyred two civilians in Lalpura district, Nangarhar province and on 6 February, four civilians were martyred in Khakraze district, Kahdahar province. On February 8 , in Gerishk district, Helmand province, four civilians were martyred while on 9 February, two commoners fell victim in Andar district, Ghazni province. on February 9 , six common Afghans were martyred in Musa Kala district, Helmand province. On February 16, four members of a family including the father Haji Abdul Khaliq and his three sons were martyred in Navi district of Helmand province. On February 21, six civilians were martyred in Khugiani district, Nengarhar province while on 23 February, three common Afghans were martyred in Marja district, Helmand province. On 24 February, five civilians lost their lives at the hand of the enemy in Allah Sai district, Kapisa province.

              March:

              On March 5, the invaders martyred three civilians in Jaga Kalla village Nader Shah Kut district of Khust province and detained nine other villagers. On March 8, the invaders martyred two commoners in Kharutu village, Charkh district, Logar province. In addition to this, about 52 civilians were killed by the invaders in different villages of Sangin district, Helmand province during night raids and bombardment. On 10 March, they martyred 3 civilians in Sangisar area, Zery district, Kandhar province. On 15 March, two civilians were martyred by the enemy in Chawki district, Kunar province. On March 16 the invaders martyred 15 civilians including women and children in Shaigal district, Kunar province. On 24 March, they martyred 5 common Afghans in Marja, Helmand province. On 27 March, the invaders attacked a passenger’s bus in Nawzad district, Helmand province, martyring 7 passengers and injuring 8 others. On 29 March, they martyred four civilians in Gushtipa district, Jouzjan province.

              Recently, as the people took to the streets in different cities of the country, following the burning of the Glorious Quran by an American pastor, the enemy found a (new) chance to avenge themselves on the civilians. The enemy troops, mercilessly and repeatedly opened fire on the defenseless civilians in Mazari Sharif, Kandahar and other cities of the country, martyring and injuring a great number of civilians.

              The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan strongly condemns this criminal act of the internal and external enemies as regards the civilian Afghans and considers it as a despicable act of violation of human rights.
              In view of the above –mentioned realities, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan calls on the International Community and on human rights watch entities to feel their responsibilities and fully utilize their potential for the protection of the lives of the civilian Afghans.

              The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan wants to register its protest against the unfair demeanor of the United Nations and the human rights and other organizations which always and solely point their finger to the Mujahideen when it comes to the issue of civilian’s casualties. They should make clear and transparent their stance regarding the genocide now going on at the hands of the enemy and they also should unambiguously condemn these wicked acts

              To end, the leadership of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan extends their deep condolence to all those Afghans who have lost their nears and dears or have been injured during the recent battles and aerial bombardment of the enemy. May Allah, the Almighty accept in His Sight their martyrdom and injuries and may Allah ( SwT) put an end to the dominance of the invaders and the internal enemy over this soil as soon as possible. Amen.

              The Leadership
              Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan

              http://www.shahamat-english.com/inde...icles&Itemid=5

              want some more ?
              why do they attack the site and hack it every time they have the chance ?
              why they don't let media show us what's really happening , and that's exactly what the taliban asked and always wanted the media be near to the war land?
              SHUT YOUR FILTHEY MOUTH.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by islam View Post
                i just saw some seconds.
                are you for real ?
                anyone can claim he's a talib and do wrongs using thier name, any one can lie and make stories and first of all the talibs in the other side are abit wrong, bald pal you wasted your time on youtube for nothing.
                That's a logical fallacy. Called a Conspiracy Theory

                let me slap you in the face with this REAL PROOF FROM THE TALIBAN SITE.

                :

                Anyone can make up a Taliban website and claim they're Taliban and try to hide the crimes of the Taliban


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                • #83
                  Originally posted by islam View Post
                  some old new...



                  want some more ?
                  why do they attack the site and hack it every time they have the chance ?
                  why they don't let media show us what's really happening , and that's exactly what the taliban asked and always wanted the media be near to the war land?
                  SHUT YOUR FILTHEY MOUTH.
                  [/CENTER]


                  This could be someone claiming to be a Taliban just to hide their crimes

                  it's not proof.

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                  • #84
                    WE WIN.

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                    • #85
                      silly bacha berish for Taliban commanders, stupidity never wins you should know that. And believe me Taliban take the crown or stupid

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                        silly bacha berish for Taliban commanders, stupidity never wins you should know that. And believe me Taliban take the crown or stupid

                        Could you explain differencies between

                        DEOBAND AND ISLAMIC SHARIAH...i did not get the point...whil deoband is just a university and not a way or a group from among the islamicummah
                        High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                          Could you explain differencies between

                          DEOBAND AND ISLAMIC SHARIAH...i did not get the point...whil deoband is just a university and not a way or a group from among the islamicummah
                          Deoband is a University but they have also created a type of ideology meaning the have a specific style of interpretation, this maybe called by some as "mushrab" in Arabic, meaning "drinking place".

                          This interpretation however is based on the Ulama of Deoband, it's not based on direct sources from the Islamic Qanun (Qur'an, sunnah/hadith, words of the companions, words of the companions of the companions) nor do they apply mantiq.



                          This is more or less what the Talliban abide by, Hence why they made women secluded because that is a Deobandi idea

                          but we know this idea is wrong because 'Aisha(ra) wore face veil but she was never secluded. Neither was Khadija (ra), Asma Bint Abu Bakr(ra) or Fatima Al-Dhahra (ra).

                          So we know that the Taliban are following incorrect rulings; therefore cannot be the Shari'ah of Islam

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                            Deoband is a University but they have also created a type of ideology meaning the have a specific style of interpretation, this maybe called by some as "mushrab" in Arabic, meaning "drinking place".

                            This interpretation however is based on the Ulama of Deoband, it's not based on direct sources from the Islamic Qanun (Qur'an, sunnah/hadith, words of the companions, words of the companions of the companions) nor do they apply mantiq.



                            This is more or less what the Talliban abide by, Hence why they made women secluded because that is a Deobandi idea

                            but we know this idea is wrong because 'Aisha(ra) wore face veil but she was never secluded. Neither was Khadija (ra), Asma Bint Abu Bakr(ra) or Fatima Al-Dhahra (ra).

                            So we know that the Taliban are following incorrect rulings; therefore cannot be the Shari'ah of Islam
                            You want intermingling of male and female. The result of this we have seen in the west. Please don't destroy our society with this.
                            Thank you

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by emkhan View Post
                              You want intermingling of male and female. The result of this we have seen in the west. Please don't destroy our society with this.
                              Thank you

                              [---EDITED---]

                              WHo said if women are allowed the rights of Islam where she can go out and be active in society it means she is mingling between males?

                              tell me , did Muhammad(saw) make Khadija (ra) stay at home or 'Aisha(ra), yes or no? Why didn't he follow what child molesting Deobandis teach?
                              Last edited by tor_khan; 10-10-2011, 11:35 AM. Reason: Offensive Line Removed

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by emkhan
                                You are not a good debater because every time you use obscene and bad language. Can you tell me, is it allowed in ISLAM to use such language if you difference over some issue with someone ?
                                Nothing I have said is a swear word in Any language so I am within Shari'ah compliance.

                                now instead of whining about being exposed [---EDITED---]

                                just answer the question .....did Nabi(saw) force Khadija Bibi(ra) and 'Aisha Bibi(ra) to stay home and not participate in society?

                                Simple yes or no will do.
                                Last edited by tor_khan; 10-10-2011, 11:37 AM. Reason: Offensive Line Removed

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