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    Why Iran is busy cultivating friendly relations with Taliban?

    Tehrān : Iran | Sep 30, 2011 at 12:18 PM PDT
    By StephenManual

    Iran, once considered hostile to Taliban and their agenda in Afghanistan, is now doing its utmost to reconcile with them. Rather, it will be best to say Iranian authorities have been striving to win confidence of Taliban leaders based in Afghanistan in order to protect their national and strategic interests in the region.
    If we look at the history of Iran-Afghanistan relations, it comes up that two states have never enjoyed friendly and cordial relations owing to one reason or another. In the 90s, when Taliban were gaining influence in Afghanistan, Iran supported the Northern Alliance against them. The two countries later came close to war in 1998, when Taliban were in power, but the disaster was averted after intervention by a "neighboring" country.
    But now the things are fast going in opposite directions of what happened in late 90s. The neighboring countries of Afghanistan including Pakistan, Iran, India and China have been devising their own strategies for the war-ravaged Afghanistan to maintain their control over their supported factions of militants. The United States announced to start withdrawing its troops from the volatile country in 2012 and the process would be completed in 2014, leaving all the security matters to Afghan Security Forces.
    Ten years down the line, it appears NATO and US forces have failed to establish peace in the country. The threat of terrorism to the world has grown many times instead of decreasing.
    One reason behind the US’ failure in making Afghanistan a stable place could be the proxy wars being fought by different countries with their own set of agendas. Different factions of militants and terrorists of different hues are being supported and armed by spy agencies of different countries. One of their agendas may be to defeat the US in Afghanistan through proxy wars, but could they succeed in their designs?
    In mid-September, Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei organized the Islamic Awakening Conference in Tehran wherein around 700 scholars, political figures and renowned personalities from around the world participated. Burhanuddin Rabbani, a prominent and respected figure from Afghanistan participated in the conference that was apparently aimed at finding ways to bring peace in the volatile Afghanistan.
    Two days after attending the conference, Rabbani was killed by a man posing as a Taliban interlocutor. To cut the long story short, Iran fears a hostile reaction from Afghanistan after the US forces withdraw from the country in 2014. Therefore, Iranian authorities are busy cultivating friendly relations with Taliban who definitely would be important players in Afghanistan’s politics and other matters of national interest after the US withdrawal.
    The United States should also do its best in arming and training the Afghan national security forces, so that they could handle the situation at their own after 2014. It will be in the interest of the US and neighboring countries if a stable, peaceful, progressive and liberal Afghanistan comes into being after ten years of war, though it appears to be a daunting task.
    Ka Makh De Rana Hear Sho No Jehan Ba Rana Hear She
    Ka Nom De Rana Hear Sho No Khpal Zan Ba Rana Her She[

  • #2
    i doubt that. more than likely, they just want to try to get taliban to stick to their guns against american bases. afghanistan will be busy recovering and developing, hopefully, when/if us and nato leave. there also is the worry of internal strife after the war.

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    • #3
      regional clout
      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

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      • #4
        In September 1998 Iran and Afghanistan (under the Taliban) were on the verge of war.

        70,000 Iranian troops were mobilized, or on the verge of being mobilized, to the Afghan border. The Taliban issued harsh warnings and threats and Iran backed down.

        Iran has a volatile Iraq on its west, a pro-Turkish Azerbaijan on its north, a strong Turkey to its north-west, a volatile pro-US Pakistan on its east.

        To its south it has the hostile Gulf Arab states.

        Inside Iran there are Kurdish rebels, though not that strong or widely supported.
        Balochis who hate the regime and have rebel groups. Arabs of Ahwaz/Khuzestan.





        Ahwazi Arabs of Iran being arrested.




        Azeris (though most of the ruling elite including supreme leader Khamenei are Azeri)...



        and also the oppositon of Tehran...



        Green revolution supporter fights with Iranian police.







        However a hostile Taliban led Afghanistan would be something else. The Taliban unlike Pakistan which had an airforce with modern fighter planes, nuclear bombs, submarines etc did not bow down and obey America.

        The US threatened the Taliban to hand over Osama, which the Taliban agreed on the condition evidence of his guilt in 9/11 was provided. The US refused and attacked Afghanistan. This is a group that was ready to go to war with superpower America unlike coward Pakistan. Such a mentality scares Iran.

        The Iranians also know history and know that their predecessors the Safawis were defeated by the Ghilzais of Mirwais Hotak.

        So the Iranians seeing the US defeat at the hands of the Taliban, the same Taliban that they were going to fight in 1998 but chickened out, know it is better to try and suck up to the Taliban than to anger them.

        This incident caused furious public reactions in Iran, and many observers were worried Iran would be involved in a military response to the attack. At the time more than 70,000 Iranian troops were deployed along the Afghan border [3][4]. The mediation by the United Nations defused the situation and all the hostages were eventually released. Later in February 1999 Iran and Taliban held talks, but Iran-Taliban relation did not improve.[
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Ir...in_Afghanistan

        The "incident" above refers to the killing of Iranian diplomats in Mazar e Sharif, ironically some say at the hands of Pakistanis (Punjabis) from the Sipah i Sahaba.


        SEPTEMBER 1998

        An angry Iran said tonight that it would hold the militant Taliban movement responsible for the deaths of nine Iranian diplomats whose bodies were recovered by the Taliban today in northern Afghanistan.

        The Taliban, who control most of Afghanistan, said the Iranians had been killed by renegade forces who had acted without orders. But Iran, which had responded to the diplomats' disappearance with a major military buildup along the Afghan border, appeared in no mood for swift forgiveness.
        http://www.nytimes.com/1998/09/11/wo...ted=all&src=pm

        The Taliban hit back and issued a warning.


        TEHRAN, Iran CNN The war of words between Iran and Afghanistans militant Taliban escalated into more serious threats Tuesday, as the Taliban warned its military would retaliate if Iran attacked Afghanistan.
        Iran must know that if the soil of Afghanistan is attacked, we will target Iranian cities and the entire responsibility will rest with Iranian authorities, Taliban spokesman Wakil Ahmed told the independent Afghan Islamic Press.
        We do not want a war with Iran, but if Iran attacks we will take all possible necessary measures, Ahmed added. The Taliban warning comes after Irans leading religious leader Tuesday put the countrys military on alert in a further escalation of the crisis with Afghanistan over the killing of Iranian diplomats there.

        Iranian President Mohammad Khatami, heading thousands of tearful mourners including Cabinet ministers, top armed forces officers, international diplomats and bereaved relatives, said at a solemn airport ceremony on Monday night I assure you that we will defend the integrity and honor of the sacred system of the Islamic Republic of Iran to the best of our ability.
        http://articles.cnn.com/1998-09-15/w.../2?_s=PM:WORLD

        They subsequently got scared and backed down. Since then...Iran has learnt not to engage in direct confrontation with the Taliban, but been working to spread Shiasm in the country.

        If the Karzai government falls, and the Taliban come back in to power, Iran will not want to risk any trouble, as they are in a very bad situation.

        - They may lose their ally, Assad's Syria. They even threatened Turkey with war if it intervened militarily in Syria.

        - They were defeated in Yemen when Saudi sent in troops to crush Iranian-backed Shia rebels.



        Saudi soldiers celebrate after their successful offensive to regain Saudi
        territory captured by Iranian-backed rebels. Bangladesh supported the Saudi campaign diplomatically.





        Victorious military commander, Prince Khalid bin Sultan shakes hands with Saudi troops after their defeat of Iranian proxies.



        Saudi troops help an old man in the operation.



        - They were defeated in Bahrain when Saudi sent in reinforcements to help the Bahrainis against pro-Iranian rebels (who by the way killed Pakistani and Bangladeshi workers).

        - They face the prospect of losing influence in Lebanon if there is another civil war there and "Hizbullah" get defeated.

        They also face a major arms build up from the Gulf Arabs to the south, they are in a weak position and cannot afford to continue making trouble.

        The Taliban for instance are one group that would be more than happy to help Sunni Baluchis in Iran separate from Iran.





        Iranian soldiers captured by Baluchi rebels.

        Any angering of the Taliban and even a war may lead to a repeat of history, with the Pashtun Ghilzais under Mirwais Hotaki ending the Safawis, and the Ghilzai Omar Hotaki (Mullah Omar) ending the neo-Safawis. If there was a bloody defeat of Iran by the Taliban and secession of Baluchistan, the Iranian army may overthrow the Iranian regime and establish a non-sectarian, democratic and federal Iran.
        Last edited by Bengal_Tiger; 10-02-2011, 10:24 AM.
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        Shukran ya Masr!!!

        Thanks to Egypt for supporting Bangladesh against Pakistani harassment and support for terrorists and war criminals!!

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        • #5
          jokes

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger View Post
            In September 1998 Iran and Afghanistan (under the Taliban) were on the verge of war.

            70,000 Iranian troops were mobilized, or on the verge of being mobilized, to the Afghan border. The Taliban issued harsh warnings and threats and Iran backed down.

            Iran has a volatile Iraq on its west, a pro-Turkish Azerbaijan on its north, a strong Turkey to its north-west, a volatile pro-US Pakistan on its east.

            To its south it has the hostile Gulf Arab states.

            Inside Iran there are Kurdish rebels, though not that strong or widely supported.
            Balochis who hate the regime and have rebel groups. Arabs of Ahwaz/Khuzestan.





            Ahwazi Arabs of Iran being arrested.




            Azeris (though most of the ruling elite including supreme leader Khamenei are Azeri)...



            and also the oppositon of Tehran...



            Green revolution supporter fights with Iranian police.







            However a hostile Taliban led Afghanistan would be something else. The Taliban unlike Pakistan which had an airforce with modern fighter planes, nuclear bombs, submarines etc did not bow down and obey America.

            The US threatened the Taliban to hand over Osama, which the Taliban agreed on the condition evidence of his guilt in 9/11 was provided. The US refused and attacked Afghanistan. This is a group that was ready to go to war with superpower America unlike coward Pakistan. Such a mentality scares Iran.

            The Iranians also know history and know that their predecessors the Safawis were defeated by the Ghilzais of Mirwais Hotak.

            So the Iranians seeing the US defeat at the hands of the Taliban, the same Taliban that they were going to fight in 1998 but chickened out, know it is better to try and suck up to the Taliban than to anger them.



            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Ir...in_Afghanistan

            The "incident" above refers to the killing of Iranian diplomats in Mazar e Sharif, ironically some say at the hands of Pakistanis (Punjabis) from the Sipah i Sahaba.


            SEPTEMBER 1998



            http://www.nytimes.com/1998/09/11/wo...ted=all&src=pm

            The Taliban hit back and issued a warning.




            http://articles.cnn.com/1998-09-15/w.../2?_s=PM:WORLD

            They subsequently got scared and backed down. Since then...Iran has learnt not to engage in direct confrontation with the Taliban, but been working to spread Shiasm in the country.

            If the Karzai government falls, and the Taliban come back in to power, Iran will not want to risk any trouble, as they are in a very bad situation.

            - They may lose their ally, Assad's Syria. They even threatened Turkey with war if it intervened militarily in Syria.

            - They were defeated in Yemen when Saudi sent in troops to crush Iranian-backed Shia rebels.



            Saudi soldiers celebrate after their successful offensive to regain Saudi
            territory captured by Iranian-backed rebels. Bangladesh supported the Saudi campaign diplomatically.





            Victorious military commander, Prince Khalid bin Sultan shakes hands with Saudi troops after their defeat of Iranian proxies.



            Saudi troops help an old man in the operation.



            - They were defeated in Bahrain when Saudi sent in reinforcements to help the Bahrainis against pro-Iranian rebels (who by the way killed Pakistani and Bangladeshi workers).

            - They face the prospect of losing influence in Lebanon if there is another civil war there and "Hizbullah" get defeated.

            They also face a major arms build up from the Gulf Arabs to the south, they are in a weak position and cannot afford to continue making trouble.

            The Taliban for instance are one group that would be more than happy to help Sunni Baluchis in Iran separate from Iran.





            Iranian soldiers captured by Baluchi rebels.

            Any angering of the Taliban and even a war may lead to a repeat of history, with the Pashtun Ghilzais under Mirwais Hotaki ending the Safawis, and the Ghilzai Omar Hotaki (Mullah Omar) ending the neo-Safawis. If there was a bloody defeat of Iran by the Taliban and secession of Baluchistan, the Iranian army may overthrow the Iranian regime and establish a non-sectarian, democratic and federal Iran.
            Listen Bengali

            If your trying to push us to be on side with Saudis then think again

            Saudis suppressed the voice of Bahiraninis, used British Mi6 support in torturing them, and purchase many supplies from the British Army.

            Why havnt you mentioned this?

            Saudi Arabia will be overthrown before Iran ever does, you wait and see, women are already pushing the vote to drive hahah vote to a drink a car, and you want us to be equals with such as bediion state!

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            • #7
              Iran is recognizing the reality of the Taliban. Two Islamic nations side by side, one Shiite, the other Sunni. Allies of sorts? Enemy of an enemy is a friend they say

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              • #8
                Iranians have their own set of problems and can't afford to go around picking fights with the wrong people e.g Taliban.

                However a Taliban government in Kabul is ultimately a loss for them.
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                Shukran ya Masr!!!

                Thanks to Egypt for supporting Bangladesh against Pakistani harassment and support for terrorists and war criminals!!

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