US attack on pakistan will be a catastrophic mistake

[Soldat_Amir]

america is the perfect puppet for those who sell arms. picking fights, nudging others into wars, bullying and spreading paranoia inducing propaganda all over the planet. imagine how much money these guys are making out the robotic, mongrel behaviour of the americans. and everyone has been sucked into it. when is the world going to stand up against their bs?

Nothing is worse than Pakistan. America may be devious, but it never forces anyone to do such things, while on the other hand, those daal eating Pakistanis, will use anything for their own interests, including the blood of innocent babies and children.

America may have done bad things in the past and at present, but nothing resembles Pakistans devlish ways.

[faye]

kidding, right? devious? done bad things? like a naughty school boy, you mean?

[Soldat_Amir]

kidding, right? devious? done bad things? like a naughty school boy, you mean?

I understand your marital situation has harboured your defensive attitude towards Pak Zameen, but most of us, would love to see Pakistan destroyed. As a matter of fact, I think it would be good, to see, those escapee slaves from the Durrani era, back into their servent quarters, Maybe the Yanks can teach us how to treat a slave well, whats the saying again, One bowl of Chenna Dhaal keeps your Punjabi sweeper at bay.

[faye]

dear pashtun ultranationalist, this is a dear john letter and i want a divorce. please comply, immediately. love, your dearest, fayeXXXXXXXX

[Soldat_Amir]

dear pashtun ultranationalist, this is a dear john letter and i want a divorce. please comply, immediately. love, your dearest, fayeXXXXXXXX

Let the conspriacies commence.

Lets have a laugh here

The only catastrophic mistake that will happen if America attacks, would be the Pakistani begging bowl would be cracked hahaha

or what about

If America attacks, the value of chapati and GeoTV would drop sales.

Or......If America Attacks, there would be an embargo placed on Taxi drivers in the West.

[faye]

our taxi drivers are indian.

[Soldat_Amir]

our taxi drivers are indian.

Who gives a rat ass about Australia, I hope it gets invaded by Indonesians and turned into a big Noodle bar.

[faye]

rats not rat.

[Soldat_Amir]

rats not rat.

Majhak Kwana

[afghan]

this bankrupt country has to be divided, nothing left to exist on but fear. best way to keep he coutry in one peice.first it was india , then afghanistan and now USA. the only permanent and loyal base of the US, wont be destroyed.

[khushal]

I did'nt bother to read your rest of post after the part that i have bolded. Why i am feeling that you have intense orgasmic desire of Pakistan to be attacked by US. And you know it very well that more than punjab or sindh, our Pashtun areas will be targeted by US...If they ever made their minds to attack Pakistan. US is totally unreliable, it dispose of those when their interests are fullfilled from them.

The pashtun areas of FATA are already being attacked and the US is using the PAK army to do most of its killing. The only areas that the US would invade is FATA but you have called FATA pashtuns barbaric many times, it would be you who would feel an intense orgasm if the US invades.

[Michin Khel]

I find this on google search. Through this i want to emphesize the point that america would be fool to think pakistan as a country like iraq or afghanistan.

Pakistani PAF vs Israeli IAF

During the arab-israel war 16 PAF pilots
volunteered to go to the Middle East in
order to support Egypt and Syria but
by the time they arrived, Egypt had
already been pushed into a ceasefire.
Syria remained in a state of war against Israel. Eight (8) PAF pilots
started flying out of Syrian Airbases;
they formed the A-flight of 67
Squadron at Dumayr Airbase. The
Pakistani pilots flew Syrian MiG-21
aircraft conducting CAP missions for the Syrians. Flt. Lt. A. Sattar Alvi became
the first Pakistani pilot, during the Yom
Kippur War, to shoot down an Israeli
Mirage in air combat.[6][7] He was
honored by the Syrian government.[8]
Other aerial encounters involved Israeli F-4 Phantoms; Pakistan Air
Force did not lose a single pilot or
aircraft during this war. The Pakistani
pilots stayed on in Syria until 1976,
training Syrian pilots in the art of air
warfare.[citation needed] ———— Flight Lieutenant Saiful Azam has the
unique distinction of having kills
against air forces of two different
countries. As a young Flying Officer
during the 65 War, Saiful Azam scored
a kill against an Indian Air Force Gnat, in recognition of which he was
awarded Sitara-i-Jurat. Two years later
Saiful Azam became the first Pakistani
pilot to score against the Israeli Air
Force in the 1967 Arab-Israel war. He
shot down a Vatour Bomber, a super Mystere, and a Mirage IIIC, all in only
two missions thus raising his tally to
four kills. To-date he remains the
highest shooter of Israeli aircraft in
history of …

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

I find this on google search. Through this i want to emphesize the point that america would be fool to think pakistan as a country like iraq or afghanistan.

Luffy Jana, I understand your enthusiasm but the US military forces have been trained and equipped to fight standing armies and then add in the huge technological gap between the US military and Pakistan and you're looking at a rerun of the first Gulf War.

We must also understand that Saddam's army in 1991 had the same Soviet tanks that Pakistan now has as the bulk of its armored forces. More than 2/3rds of Pakistani tanks are Chinese variants of Soviet tanks of the 1960s. They are no match for the far more advanced American tanks. Pakistan has some 60-odd F-16s and they're the only aircraft that can take on the US airforce. But only two aircraft carriers in the Gulf can carry twice as many F18s and within days, the Pakistani airforce will be unable to provide cover for its army. Once that happens, it's all over.

In fact, the US suffered less than 400 deaths in the First Gulf War whereas when it was made to fight street-by-street in 2003, it lost more than 4,000 soldiers. But the opposing forces in Iraq still lost the war because of their ethnic, ideological and sectarian infighting. You had the secular Iraqis (Saddam loyalists and others), Al-Qaeda, the Shi'ite militias, the Kurdish groups, etc. In the end, their resistance just ran out of steam.

The US is in no way invincible though. The Vietnamese sacrificed some four million people and fought pitched guerrilla battles against their otherwise "superior" foes and won (despite losing virtually every battle they fought).

Now do you really believe that the cities of Punjab will fight the Americans for every street and every house? Do you think the people of Lahore, Faisalabad, Sialkot or Larkana will fight to the death? Also take into consideration the fact that as soon as there is serious turmoil, the MQM will declare independence in Karachi and join the US, Balochistan will also join the US in exchange for independence and all you'd have left is Punjab and her chowkidar (NWFP). The Punjabi people will not fight. They've never resisted any invader from Alexander and Gengis Khan to Ahmed Shah Baba and Sher Shah Suri.

The only thing that US is afraid of is some Golf Club DHA general pushing the red button to nuke Delhi or even Kabul when all is lost. Or worse, terrorists will gain access to nuclear material.

[Bengal_Tiger]

The pashtun areas of FATA are already being attacked and the US is using the PAK army to do most of its killing. The only areas that the US would invade is FATA but you have called FATA pashtuns barbaric many times, it would be you who would feel an intense orgasm if the US invades.

The idiot is a "Pathan" who hates Pashtuns and Pashtun culture and seeks to vilify it as backwards and violent. He constantly defends Punjabis. As you have correctly said before, he is only on here to divide people, cause trouble and get a kick out of it.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Luffy Jana, I understand your enthusiasm but the US military forces have been trained and equipped to fight standing armies and then add in the huge technological gap between the US military and Pakistan and you're looking at a rerun of the first Gulf War.

We must also understand that Saddam's army in 1991 had the same Soviet tanks that Pakistan now has as the bulk of its armored forces. More than 2/3rds of Pakistani tanks are Chinese variants of Soviet tanks of the 1960s. They are no match for the far more advanced American tanks. Pakistan has some 60-odd F-16s and they're the only aircraft that can take on the US airforce. But only two aircraft carriers in the Gulf can carry twice as many F18s and within days, the Pakistani airforce will be unable to provide cover for its army. Once that happens, it's all over.

In fact, the US suffered less than 400 deaths in the First Gulf War whereas when it was made to fight street-by-street in 2003, it lost more than 4,000 soldiers. But the opposing forces in Iraq still lost the war because of their ethnic, ideological and sectarian infighting. You had the secular Iraqis (Saddam loyalists and others), Al-Qaeda, the Shi'ite militias, the Kurdish groups, etc. In the end, their resistance just ran out of steam.

The US is in no way invincible though. The Vietnamese sacrificed some four million people and fought pitched guerrilla battles against their otherwise "superior" foes and won (despite losing virtually every battle they fought)....

The only thing that US is afraid of is some Golf Club DHA general pushing the red button to nuke Delhi or even Kabul when all is lost. Or worse, terrorists will gain access to nuclear material.

You're right just...

Tanks: They would need a land from where they can use them, that would either be Afghanistan or India, so tanks are not relevant, the US wouldn't use them in my opinion, doesn't really need to either as Kosova or Afghanistan in 2001 showed.

Air power: Correct, as Osama's killing showed, Pakistan can do nothing.

Red button: Despite the drama, for the masses consumption, the Pakistani army and ISI are controlled by the US. This may seem ironic given that it is coming from me who regularly updates a thread with articles about the war of words between the Pakistani "government" (real rulers of Pakistan are in Washington and Virginia), but that is more to capture the sentiment of ordinary Pakistanis and the official media stories.

As Admin Khan pointed out, it's already an occupied state anyway.

Now do you really believe that the cities of Punjab will fight the Americans for every street and every house? Do you think the people of Lahore, Faisalabad, Sialkot or Larkana will fight to the death? Also take into consideration the fact that as soon as there is serious turmoil, the MQM will declare independence in Karachi and join the US, Balochistan will also join the US in exchange for independence and all you'd have left is Punjab and her chowkidar (NWFP). The Punjabi people will not fight. They've never resisted any invader from Alexander and Gengis Khan to Ahmed Shah Baba and Sher Shah Suri.

Correct, Punjabis will not fight.

They talk big but do little, as can be seen when compared with non-nuclear Iran which has more guts.

Punjabis fought for Sikh rulers to conquer Muslims in Pashtunkhwa despite calls from the Islamic ulama (scholars) of Pashtunkhwa and India not to do that and betray Islam.

They, on a mass level, also played virtually no part in the movement to create Pakistan, with Bengalis being the biggest champions of Pakistan.

Most Pakistanis and Pakistani nationalists are Luffy and Talal types, dishonest, sly, delusional...but also fundamentally very cowardly (which is why they are taken aback by my hostility to them, as I am just more direct, shoot from the hip and not in to mind games as they are).