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  • #16
    Oh, so you want to compete with your fellow Pakistanis in who can be the biggest slaves of the US?

    Sorry buddy, but thats not your decision to make.

    The Afghans make that, and right now they are kicking another empire into the ground.

    If your angry about that, then tough son,. deal with it.

    Daud Daud ir dead. Ahmad Wali is dead.

    Smell the coffee buddy, not Spanta's smelly asss
    Last edited by Guest; 09-13-2011, 12:52 AM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Daruish View Post
      Afreen! Besyaar Oshyar astee bader jan e gul. If Punjabis can serve British for 200 years even when British would not allow them to sit, eat or speak in their presence but later get Pakistan as reward to their service to British then why can't we build our Afghanistan with American support?
      for one single reason bruh....theyre not there to help us

      america knows pakistan supports talibs

      america knows gulf arabs supports talibs

      those are its 2 biggest allies

      and we both know, america wasnt innocent in your Amir Sahebs death

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      • #18
        1. Early Ottoman Sultans such as Muhammad Al Faatih (Fatih Sultan Mehmet), Murad, Bayezid etc were good. However the Ottomans declined and by the 19th century Levanaye is correct they were propped up by the British and French to block the Russians from the Mediterranean, though they were more powerful than many people think e.g. in the 19th century the Ottomans warned the British not to continue staging a play which mocked the holy prophet (solAllahu 'alaihi wa sallam), or face war to which the British complied with.

        2. Later Sultans were corrupt and were racially more white European than Turkic.



        Some members of the Ottoman family today.



        An Ottoman "princess" (i.e. member of the Ottoman family).

        3. The Ottoman Sultan during the war of independence was indeed a weak vassal of the British but Mustafa Kemal was also British-supported and was helped in gaining power. He made an agreement with Lord Curzon which included abolishing the Khilafah and making Turkey secular.

        Ataturk was a Kafir and an enemy of Islam who killed scholars and banned the Hijab.
        He also banned Hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca.

        He implemented the French-inspired secular ideas prevalent amongst the late Ottoman military officer corp of his time. French secularism is far more militant than Anglo-Saxon secularism.

        Jinnah was an admirer of Ataturk, and so was Musharraf. Jinnah was the British agent in South Asia, and Ataturk was their man in Turkey.

        However Ataturk achieved far more than the dry, uninspiring, lacklustre lawyer Jinnah ever did. He created a strong nation-state with a strong identity, promoted industrialization and made other major reforms. Jinnah did nothing, and was merely interested in being famous for creating Pakistan. He did not finish feudalism, and promoted the interests of Indian, Urdu-speaking Muslims over that of Sindhis and the majority Bengalis. As a politician he is of little worth and was generally boring, aloofish, out of touch and lacked passion.

        4. Pashtuns supported the Ottoman Khilafah, militarily including during their fights against the British.

        5. The founder of the pro-Ottoman Khilafah movement in India was of Pashtun lineage.

        6. The greatest Bengali leader of all time, Maulana Bashani ("the communist Maulana) also supported the Khilafah and was imprisoned when he protested against its abolition.



        Maulana Bhashani, (rahmatullahi) greatest Bengal leader of all time and the man who brought the Ayub Khan regime down, also leader of the now ruling Awami League in Bangladesh. The party was originally called the "Awami Muslim League" and he called for the word "Muslim" to be omitted as the Pakistani regime was misusing the rhetoric of Muslim brotherhood to subjugate East Pakistan.

        The Pakistani left wing split between him and Wali Khan (rahmatullahi alaih) as Bhashani was pro-China and pro-Maoist, whilst Wali Khan was pro-Soviet.

        7. Arabs stayed loyal to the Turkish Ottoman Khilafah for 4 centuries and their rebellion was instigated by foreign powers.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by AshrafGhaljay View Post
          Oh, so you want to compete with your fellow Pakistanis in who can be the biggest slaves of the US?

          Sorry buddy, but thats not your decision to make.

          The Afghans make that, and right now they are kicking another empire into the ground.

          If your angry about that, then tough son,. deal with it.

          Daud Daud ir dead. Ahmad Wali is dead.

          Smell the coffee buddy, not Spanta's smelly asss

          And yet you have no problem with dictations and orders from slaves of the U.S.

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