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    Mullah Omar gets a Russian visitor
    Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan


    By M K Bhadrakumar
    He can be disarmingly charming. Like any ethnic Uzbek. Plus he has cultivated a great sense of humor, especially the sardonic variety that is a Russian trademark, which sees you through adversities. He was trained in the tricks of his trade at the best professional schools in Moscow.

    A consummate Orientalist - that is what he has been, coming in the long distinctive tradition of Russian diplomacy that places an overriding accent on area specialists. They keep serving for decades altogether in the same region and over time they become all but "natives", speaking the local language, breathing the local





    customs and ethos, reveling in the local cuisine and having a whale of a time - and all the while filing back to the court in St Petersburg the chronicles of their subtle findings or making moves on the Central Asian chessboard.

    That is probably the best way to describe Zamir Nabiyevich Kabulov. As a gifted Soviet and post-Soviet Russian diplomat he has only served in Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan through the past 34 years, including as the Russian ambassador in Kabul, which was his most recent posting until last year. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev didn't have to look far to decide Kabulov was his best choice for the new post of presidential special representative for Afghanistan. Medvedev signed the executive order on Tuesday.

    The Kremlin's executive orders are always a treat to read and study. Kabulov's in particular. They say much about the thought processes within the closed Kremlin walls. Kabulov's executive order prioritizes his mission in its pecking order:
    To ensure the sustainable development of Russian-Afghan relations, which have recently received a strong impetus.
    To support international efforts to rebuild a peaceful, independent and prosperous Afghanistan free from terrorism and drug-related crimes.
    To reinforce inter-agency coordination on Russia's policy toward Afghanistan.

    His focus is unmistakably on the Russian-Afghan relationship in all its aspects from the perspective of Russian national interests and priorities at a defining moment in Afghanistan's history and in the geopolitics of the region.

    The fact that Medvedev has established a new post of presidential special representative for Afghanistan underscores Moscow's assessment that a "hands-on" approach is called for over and above the normal diplomatic tools and instruments already available. Someone who can put it all together - the big picture and the brush strokes and keep working on the canvas without being hamstrung by the hurlyburly of day-to-day preoccupations over bread and butter.

    The executive order makes the customary reference to the new appointee's worthy credentials as "an experienced diplomat and Orientalist". And then, out of the blue, it adds that Kabulov "repeatedly held talks on the release of Russian pilots with the leadership of the Taliban in Kandahar, including [Taliban leader] Mohammed Omar". There was no real need to have said that. It almost seems jarring to single out one mission in a distinguished diplomat's checkered career. But it said all that needed to be said.

    By the language of the sport of cricket, one would shout from the crease in the heat of the moment: "Howzaat!" Is there an umpire nearby who could annotate the trajectory of Russian thinking? Not much ingenuity is needed to comprehend that Moscow is opening a line to the Taliban leadership and sending into the Hindu Kush someone who can meaningfully converse with the Quetta shura (council). Pakistanis know Kabulov, Iranians know him and Mullah Omar knows him. Afghan President Hamid Karzai knows him, too.

    It is an audacious move on Moscow's part. But then, as the executive order says: "He [Kabulov] has been awarded the Order for Personal Courage, the Order of Honor, and the Order of People's Friendship for his achievements in Afghanistan. He also holds Afghan state awards."

    Kabulov's mind is an open book - as far as a diplomat's mind can be. While serving in Kabul, he was an easily accessible ambassador and even American military commanders used to drop by to pick his brains. Kabulov's main complaint, though, was that the Americans were good listeners, but not good learners.

    He kept harping on that the United States was repeating the same mistakes that the Soviet Union made in Afghanistan during its occupation in the 1980s, and to complicate matters, American policies have been innovating on Soviet mistakes by inventing original mistakes of their own for which as he once told John Burns of the New York Times, "We [Russia] do not own the copyright."

    He counted as common "Soviet-American mistakes" the following:
    The "original sin" is that both Moscow and Washington underestimated the Afghan resistance, its inherent strength, capacity to regenerate, its resilience and its survivability. The Soviets thought that the Afghan mujahideen were chicken feed and would never be able to threaten Kabul and the Americans are similarly sanguine.
    The Soviets surrendered the countryside to the mujahideen, estimating that it really didn't make a difference to the war as long as the control of major cities was intact; the US is doing the same - whereas, the heart and soul and lifeblood of the insurgency lies in the countryside.
    Most important, the Soviets overlooked the Afghan people's innate hostility toward foreign occupation of their country. The Americans are making the same mistake of staying and not exiting after the mission of the overthrow of the Taliban regime was accomplished in 2001. The right thing to do would have been to hand over the reins to the successor regime in December 2001 and let Afghans themselves work things out.
    The Soviets faced the same dilemma as the Americans when the mujahideen threat expanded: they didn't have adequate manpower. So they brought in greater firepower, which in turn led to aggressive use of military force leading to large-scale "collateral damage" in civilian casualties; the end result was the profound alienation of the local population and a strengthening of the mujahideen.

    Kabulov has never hidden his thinking that the only way to salvage the situation is to swiftly "Afghanize" it. Russian policies are increasingly veering round to a resuscitation of the bilateral relationship with the government in Kabul and adding sinews of economic content to it by reviving Soviet-era projects in Afghanistan. While doing this, Russian diplomacy is harmonizing with the US-Russia reset, tapping into it and developing synergy.

    Moscow is also establishing lines of communication to the Taliban leadership. Kabulov was a participant in the delicate negotiations with the Taliban leadership in Kandahar in 1995 for the release of Soviet prisoners of war in the hands of the mujahideen. In the process, he became one of a handful of people outside Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence who came face-to-face with Mullah Omar.

    Ironically, American diplomats assisted in the negotiations between Moscow and Kandahar at that time. Maybe, Kabulov can return the favor. At any rate, he knows for sure that Islamabad was and will always be an ardent facilitator of any contacts he may need with Mullah Omar. He is a popular figure among the folks in Islamabad.

    Ambassador M K Bhadrakumar was a career diplomat in the Indian Foreign Service. His assignments included the Soviet Union, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Germany, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Uzbekistan, Kuwait and Turkey.

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    The executive order makes the customary reference to the new appointee's worthy credentials as "an experienced diplomat and Orientalist". And then, out of the blue, it adds that Kabulov "repeatedly held talks on the release of Russian pilots with the leadership of the Taliban in Kandahar, including [Taliban leader] Mohammed Omar". There was no real need to have said that. It almost seems jarring to single out one mission in a distinguished diplomat's checkered career. But it said all that needed to be said.

    By the language of the sport of cricket, one would shout from the crease in the heat of the moment: "Howzaat!" Is there an umpire nearby who could annotate the trajectory of Russian thinking? Not much ingenuity is needed to comprehend that Moscow is opening a line to the Taliban leadership and sending into the Hindu Kush someone who can meaningfully converse with the Quetta shura (council). Pakistanis know Kabulov, Iranians know him and Mullah Omar knows him. Afghan President Hamid Karzai knows him, too.

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    • #3
      ahh the quetta shura, the ones talib supporters deny exists in quetta lol

      whats with u and hanging on russian nuts? the russians want to see afghanistan in chains as much as the americans do, just with a pro russian slant. what the americans are doing in afg, the russians are doing in chechniya x100.

      the tame russian rhetoric is due to them no longer being a super power and they are on the outside looking in as opposed to their soviet days, which they wish to emulate.
      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

      Sayyid Qutb

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      • #4
        uncle tom, whats with you and your emotional rants?

        who denied what? stop assuming and making stuff up.

        Quetta, Peshawar, Wana

        these are Pashtun areas. Pashtun areas. Pasthun areas, Pashtun areas PASHTUN LAND PASHTUNISTAN PASHTUNISTAN

        Pashtun areas. X 10 X 100

        First, you say the Taliban have no vision, then when other intellectuals point out that they have either opened up diplomatic channels with those around them and vice versa, you get riled up LOL
        Last edited by Guest; 09-09-2011, 07:08 PM.

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        • #5
          what was emotional about my response? u of all people calling someone out on emotions? its like turd telling someone he stinks. it just doesnt work.

          yes, taliban supporters have often denied that the afghan taliban shura operates out of quetta and repeatedly say that mullah omar is not in pakistan.

          how does opening diplomatic channels = vision? lmao the taliban even had meetings with american delegations in the 90s while calling them anti islamic in public. hypocrisy ahoy. vision = developing a nation, not inviting foreigners for a chat. if that is ur idea of vision than karzai must be the greatest visionary of our time, but we know he is an idiot as well as his taliban enemies.

          u seem like a former communist turned talib, with russian sympathies. nothing is out of the question with u, especially when u have admitted u are not an afghan national and u have family members working for the isi.
          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

          Sayyid Qutb

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          • #6
            LOL, Uncle Tom- Saleh/Daud Daud boy,

            keep fronting your perverted **** here. Quetta is Afghanistan, and that pisses you off LOL. From Qandahar to Quetta, Islam boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            You can never divide us you fool

            Now, what the hell does it mean if someone posts an article?

            I post an article by Mk Bhadrakumar? Suddenly you say I am pro-Russian? Are you DENSE? Are you retarded like Scimitar?



            Your just upset because the world is starting to recognize the legit Sharia Afghan government, and spitting on the Uncle Tom infested Karzai-Spanta **** one?
            Last edited by Guest; 09-09-2011, 09:21 PM.

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            • #7
              so u are telling me the pakistani military/government does not control quetta? so why is quetta still a city in pakistan and not in afghanistan?

              of course u are pro russian. u are hanging on the hammer and sickle of puttins privates and u are loving it.

              and how am i a pervert when u have been banned for harassing women here on the forums?

              months ago u are on karzais balls for having independent contacts with regional players now u are flip flopping again lol u are as pathetic as karzai, and the taliban.


              so the taliban receives russian contacts, while the russians have forcefully occupied islamic land. this is the same as meeting with israeli contacts. why do u support russian contacts? what about mullah omar meeting with israeli officials?
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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              • #8
                Uncle Tom keeps making crap up. I post an article that he does not like, and he gets riled up?

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                • #9
                  uncle tom,

                  Quetta, Qandahar, Peshawar are all Muslim/Afghan land.

                  you speak nonsense like Scimitar

                  I have not told you anything. I post an article you retard. Quit getting riled up, and shaking. Stop sinning, then you wont shake with fear.

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                  • #10
                    so talibs like u meet with russians, have u met with israeli envoys too? i love how u can never debate facts since u are basically a retard with an internet connection.

                    so let me ask u, why does the taliban meet with russians but not israelis? both countries have committed atrocities against muslims.
                    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                    Sayyid Qutb

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                    • #11
                      I have posted an article. That much is clear, and that is all.

                      What does it mean that I post an article?

                      Do you know what diplomacy is? Due to the lack of diplomatic and regional ties, Afghanistan has had to face war from the outside. You supports the NATO mission (calling it a stabilizing force).

                      It is not. Skip on home uncle tom.

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                      • #12
                        answer my question u retard. if the taliban meets with russians, why not israelis?
                        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                        Sayyid Qutb

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                        • #13
                          Randolph,

                          don´t do the "Anderson Cooper" with that Down Syndrome failure.

                          Questions make him loose his temper.
                          The only constant is change.

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                          • #14
                            uncle tom,

                            I post an article, that much is clear. If you are getting riled up about it (and the fact the regional countries are opening up diplomatic relations with the Afghanistan Sharia government), then email MK Bhadrakumar.

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                            • #15
                              yeah, it seems like all he is good for is wasting bandwidth and not answering serious questions while he is at it.

                              like i told him before, i know he is retarded but just dont make retarded posts.
                              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                              Sayyid Qutb

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