ISI control the WORLD HAHAH

[ScimitarXEdge]

those are racist filthy terms attacking all the population, if you wana use them, then its shows your filthy nature too. there is a difference between attacking the government/army/isi and attacking the regular folks using those racist terms.

I have to agree ....Bengali Tiger you should be more mature than to use ethnic slander.

[Bengal_Tiger]

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[Bengal_Tiger]

I have to agree ....Bengali Tiger you should be more mature than to use ethnic slander.

None of those terms are ethnic slander, and "d*** khor", is a term you Afghans use, not me.

People who dislike Israel for instance call it Israhell, some people who dislike the US call it all sorts of names. None of these terms directed at a political entity are racial.

Calling Jews "Kikes" (as someone did on another thread today), or calling black people "niggas" (as someone did on the thread about the London riots) are racial terms, and it is interesting to see that our Yemeni friend Mr ScimitarXEdge did not object to either, but here he is trying to implicitly give ideas on two Pakistani nationalists on how to target me.

Grow up.

[unknownprince]

ISI supress Sindhi nationalists in Sindh.

agreed
Before I get started everyone knows ISI is a double faced org, and easily sells their national pride for US dollars. They are a mishmash of people, some zealots, and others double faced sell-outs. No one, especially the Afghans who are ending the US war, trusts them.

This is addressed to Scimitar, LZ, Toramana,m Pir Rokhan, and the rest of the Flat Earth Society too.

ISI supress Pashtun nationalists in Pakhtunkhwa.

agreed, but they do not really need to do much since all the Pashtun nationalists are in their pockets anyways. I assume you are talking about ANP/PMAP. They do not have a hold on the people who have killed over 5000 Pakistani soldiers though, and retards like Scimitar and Toramana will say ISI paid those people to kill Pakistani soldiers.

ISI supported Sunni militants e.g. Sipah i Sahaba to murder innocent Shia civilians in Punjab.

I haven't read about this.

ISI supported militants in Afghanistan to destabilize Afghanistan for "strategic depth".

Now, this is the problem here, and I am going to address two points. First, there is truth that ISI, for their own reasons supports the ending of the US occupation. However, just as many rich Gulf states are supporting the ending of the US occupation too. Their interest is to ward of Iranian influence. Pakistans is to ward of Indian influence. When you read BELOW, disregard the above BECAUSE the rural Afghan does not care about any of the above mentioned nations' interests AT ALL

Why are you and others denouncing them for suppressing the other resistance movements noted above, (which you are right to do), BUT denounce them for supporting this resistance movement (which in fact they do not do to such a degree that people imply)?

I mean you can't have it both ways. Labeling the resistance to the US occupation as "militants who are destabilizing Afghanistan for Pakistani strategic depth" completely disregards Afghans right to freedom. Why do you draw away from your apparent support for other resistance movements, but not the one in Afghanistan? Even if Pakistan was 100% backing the Afghan resistance for their own purposes, how does that suddenly make the Afghans guilty of anything at all? Do you think they should not fight an occupation? Has this ever happened in Afghanistan's history? Afghans/Pashtuns fight for themselves. They do not care about Pakistan, Iran, Indias, or any others interest, and rightly so. Afghans are getting rid of the US war and occupation.

ISI accused of the murder of many Pakistanis including even people from the Pakistani establishment including the son of Air Marshal Asghar Khan.

They also killed Benazir Bhutto.

ISI accused of sponsoring radicals in Bangadesh, who were then captured and expelled by Bangladesh intelligence, DGFI.

OK

No one accuses the ISI of being a global terrorist outfit, merely a regional one which operates inside Pakistan and other states next door or in the region.

[/QUOTE] Right now, the current tactic being used by real Anti-Afghans is to label the Afghan resistance as fighting for Pakistan, and by extension the ISI. Does this make any sense at all?

Does any Afghan fight to place the Pakistani flag in Kandahar? Are you suggesting that Afghans fight and die for the Pakistani flag? Are you suggesting that Afghans sing the Pakistani national anthem instead of reciting the shahadah before they die?

Is this not an insult to Afghan people? To somehow assume they welcome and do not hate and resist this US occupation? Is this not blatantly absurd? Is the fact that the US is being defeated in Afghanistan not a testament to the Afghans intolerance and resentment to the foreigners?

Or is Pakistan controlling all these Afghans with a remote control? Do you attribute so much credit to Pakistan for the historical Afghan resistance? Is this not an insult to Afghanistan? If this was remotely true, I would call Pakistan a champion of world freedom, and would state it. But it is NOT TRUE in the way you are saying it. If I was a Pakistani, I would be ashamed of myself for the subservience of Pakistan to the US. In regards to treacherous ANP/PMAP who have only supported war against Afghanistan. Yesterday, they supported the Russians, today the Americans. These are no Pashtun activists, but traitors.

[ScimitarXEdge]

None of those terms are ethnic slander, and "d*** khor", is a term you Afghans use, not me.

People who dislike Israel for instance call it Israhell, some people who dislike the US call it all sorts of names. None of these terms directed at a political entity are racial.

Calling Jews "Kikes" (as someone did on another thread today), or calling black people "niggas" (as someone did on the thread about the London riots) are racial terms, and it is interesting to see that our Yemeni friend Mr ScimitarXEdge did not object to either, but here he is trying to implicitly give ideas on two Pakistani nationalists on how to target me.

Grow up.

I don't approve of ethnic slander either way.....but I'm also not an all seeing eye.

I have similarly defended you against Luffy/Ab-e-Hayat when he made fun of Bengalis, how quickly you forget?


Word of advice, if you want to preset yourself as someone for the cause of Islam, give up this ethnic smear campaign. You can argue against Nations and Governments (i.e. Pakistani ISI). but when you turn it into an ethnic war you lose credibility.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Bengali would you agree that the Taliban attacking and murdering Afghans, engaging in suicide bombs in open markets and places where afghan populations are in harms way ....demonstrates the Pakistani Slave nature of the Taliban?

[Bengal_Tiger]

I have similarly defended you against Luffy/Ab-e-Hayat when he made fun of Bengalis, how quickly you forget?

I don't remember that, because I often do not read threads till their end and plus Luffy/Ab e Hayat is on my ignore list so I can't read any of his garbage including when he posts on my wall.

give up this ethnic smear campaign

What ethnic smear campaign? Am I starting threads day and night about different ethnic groups? You have contradicted in your previous thread when you were trying to make out that saying "P-insert letters - stan" is something racial. The only thing racial I mentioned is a word used by Afghans banned (perhaps rightly) in this forum, to cite that as an example of the forum management trying to be conciliatory to Pakistani nationalists and racists e.g. Luffy. (By the way Luffy will de facto be banned if he ever steps foot in Khyberwatch, where I am a moderator, I don't tolerate fools like this lightly e.g: http://www.khyberwatch.com/forums/sh...9193#post89193)

Stop throwing false allegations at me.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Bengali would you agree that the Taliban attacking and murdering Afghans, engaging in suicide bombs in open markets and places where afghan populations are in harms way ....demonstrates the Pakistani Slave nature of the Taliban?

Translation: I want to get you involved in my squabble with AshrafGhaljay and others, about the Taliban. I'm bored and want a bit of entertainment by seeing a flame fight - ScimitarXEdge.

My response: Grow up.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Why are you and others denouncing them for suppressing the other resistance movements noted above, (which you are right to do), BUT denounce them for supporting this resistance movement (which in fact they do not do to such a degree that people imply)?[/B] I mean you can't have it both ways. Labeling the resistance to the US occupation as "militants who are destabilizing Afghanistan for Pakistani strategic depth" completely disregards Afghans right to freedom. .

But that's not what Bengali Tiger is saying at all; he's not denyig that resistance to NATO Occupation is legitimate. He's saying that the Taliban does not truly represent resistance to NATO. The Taliban Movement hide in Pakistan under the protection of the Pakistani ISI and manipulate locals who want to fight a resistance by steering that to serve Pakistani Goals.

You even admit this yourself that the Pakistanis do this and your response was "so what?" as if it was acceptable and no big deal.

But it's obvious that Bengali Tiger sees a distinction between afghans trying to liberate themselves and Pakistani Funded Terrorists who kill Afghan elders and civilians and threaten them while pretending to fight NATO.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I don't remember that, because I often do not read threads till their end and plus Luffy/Ab e Hayat is on my ignore list so I can't read any of his garbage including when he posts on my wall.



What ethnic smear campaign? Am I starting threads day and night about different ethnic groups? You have contradicted in your previous thread when you were trying to make out that saying "P-insert letters - stan" is something racial. The only thing racial I mentioned is a word used by Afghans banned (perhaps rightly) in this forum, to cite that as an example of the forum management trying to be conciliatory to Pakistani nationalists and racists e.g. Luffy. (By the way Luffy will de facto be banned if he ever steps foot in Khyberwatch, where I am a moderator, I don't tolerate fools like this lightly e.g: Creation of new provinces)

Stop throwing false allegations at me.

Just because Afghans use ethnic slander doesn't make it suddenly acceptable; Afghans too have flaws and that is one of them.

Perhaps you're not using ethnic slander but between MUSLIMS we're not supposed to slander each other's heritage, if it was non-Muslims I wouldn't care.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Translation: I want to get you involved in my squabble with AshrafGhaljay and others, about the Taliban. I'm bored and want a bit of entertainment by seeing a flame fight - ScimitarXEdge.

My response: Grow up.

No translation, just be honest and show Ashrafghaljay that it's not just us that see the truth.


You already exposed the ISI-Taliban nexus anyways, so it isn't really necessary thank you.

[ScimitarXEdge]

But honest question Bengali ...what are your feelings regarding the Taliban; and when I say Taliban I don't mean the sincere rank and file people who don't know what happens behind the scenes and truly sincerely believe they're fighting NATO

I mean the Taliban Movement/Organization/Ideology and it's Leadership?

This is a sincere question.

[ISIKhan]

ScimitarXEdge,

You are a smart one, and have discovered one of the biggest secrets of the ISI- YES, Afghans fighting against the US occupation fight for Pakistan!!! All Taliban leadership are under the Imperius spell

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Imperius_Curse

"Total control. I could make it jump out the window, drown itself, throw itself down one of your throats..." —Barty Crouch Jr. as Alastor Moody on a spider he had put under Imperius Curse[src]

The Imperius Curse is one of the three Unforgivable Curses. When cast successfully, it places the victim completely under the caster's control, though a person with exceptional strength of will is capable of resisting it. This makes it unique among the unforgivable curses, as it is the only one of them with a known, reliable method of resistance. The curse's incantation is Imperio.


Voldemort gave us first hand lessons on this, and we obviously gave him Harry Potter as part of the deal.

Ooops- the cat is out of the bag- what to do now?

This is a major problem within the agency. How did you find out that Afghans are fighting and dying for Jinnah? Do you also know that Taliban plan to make Bhangra the national dance?


20 years ago, our Father of our nuclear program, Abdul Qadeer Khan had a side project in which we were able to control peoples minds and actions. As you know AQ Khan was also a graduate of Hogwarts School of WitchCraft and Wizardry. He had the honor of being classmates with Voldmermot and Harry Potter, both who gave him extensive advice on how to control the Afghan Pashtun warriors.

This research paid of as the Afghans are defeating another empire - WOOOHOOO.

THATS US BABY.........

[ScimitarXEdge]

stick to your normal ID Ashraf


and stop with the straw man arguments ....

[ScimitarXEdge]

I guess it was Voldermort

that told Wikileaks that the Taliban were taking orders from the ISI right?

WikiLeaks and the ISI-Taliban nexus | Peter Galbraith | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk