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    Negotiate with the Taliban

    Virginia M. Moncrieff

    Journalist


    Virginia M. Moncrieff: Obama's Winning Move: Negotiate with the Taliban

    Posted: 9/2/11 03:10 PM ET

    Last week, Kabul was more-than-usually atwitter with rumors. President Obama's campaign heavyweights were just about to come to town. The whispers gathered pace: Obama's campaign is desperate for a new Afghan policy. The polling is pretty easy to read: it sucks; get out of Afghanistan -- now.
    How does Obama suddenly do an armstand back-double-somersault with one and a half twists and save face? To be able to push forward the 2014 withdrawal deadline, wouldn't it have to be based on newly acquired information, new strategies and results, better processes and outcomes of the ongoing war? Could Joe Biden's long-term skepticism of the newfangled, fancy-pants counterinsurgency techniques favored by retired General Petraeus now get traction? Could COIN get trashed on the road to an Obama reelection?
    It's negotiation, not political campaigns, that ends wars. In the face of genocide, assassination, terrorism, desertions and chaos, it's the quality of negotiations -- often fraught or grudging -- that will broker some sort of peace, no matter how unsteady or uncertain that peace may be.
    Everyone involved in the seeming endlessness of Afghanistan knows that. Its how and who the NATO alliance negotiates with, and where and when and what constitutes a reasonable settlement, has never been publicly well-defined.
    Afghanistan's President Karzai uses almost any and all occasion to call upon his Taliban "brothers" to forgo violence and hurry up to the various negotiation tables where the big boys sit. He did it again on Eid-ul-Fitr (the end of Ramadan) this past Tuesday.
    (Taliban leader Mullah Omar issued his own unique Eid message, praising rising foreign troop casualties and the murder of several high-level Afghan officials and claiming that the Taliban is expanding its territory and close to victory. Such bloodshed, murder and carnage represents "good news of an imminent victory and a bright future!" he happily announced.)
    Of course, negotiations that lead to early withdrawal for the sake of a reelection campaign are of no interest to Taliban leaders like Mullah Omar. The December Bonn Conference (which is not a negotiation but is, sadly, billed as a "challenges and progress report" on the disastrous 2001 Bonn Agreement) has already attracted tit-for-tat statements. Mullah Omar says the Taliban aren't going, Ambassador Ryan Crocker says the Taliban aren't invited. Afghan President Karzai says he will represent Afghanistan. Sound depressingly familiar?
    Karzai, too, is in a difficult of position. Regarded by many diplomats as a failure at best, and at worst an unstable and untrustworthy ally who is suffered rather than welcomed at negotiations, he has been included in and at times excluded from the process.
    Since the late winter of 2010, there has been a consistent round of negotiations, some of them attended by Karzai deputies. The sessions have been classified as "direct talks" (the word "negotiation" somehow indicates a compromise, a win-win, a leavening out).
    The Taliban (and their particularly vicious partners, the Haqqani Network) have no interest in being seen to be in "negotiations" -- it hardly fits their image. But a settlement that ends with Taliban inclusion into Afghan political life may yet appeal if formulated through strength, deftness and discretion. The late Richard Holbrooke was the master of this style of tough, persistent negotiation. His successor, Marc Grossman, has stepped into the mess. It's doubtful that he will be impressed with Karzai's constant leaking of details of these most delicate stages of dialogue to burnish his image and to avoid what he most fears: being seen as irrelevant.
    Negotiated settlement could well be the most important part of the 2012 reelection campaign. Getting negotiations underway and reporting genuine results could deliver an election-decider to Obama, because it could mean an earlier withdrawal.
    Negotiated settlement is inevitable. It's getting to the table and imagining the end that is the hard part. With the 2012 election being a third wheel is this delicate, knife-edge process, the most fervent hope is that President Obama honors his priorities and gets them right.


    Follow Virginia M. Moncrieff on Twitter: www.twitter.com/vmmoncrieff

  • #2
    why do u keep posting articles which completely contradict your own views in other posts?
    There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

    Sayyid Qutb

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    • #3
      What views am I contradicting?

      What views are mine?

      I can post any article I find interesting and FACTUAL..

      You ask this same question when you get frustrated after reading something you don't like, and I am no longer interested in wasting my time engaging in retarded conversations with the lijes of dumbasses like you and Scimitar who think that when someone posts an article, that means they support every point- I can post something I don't even agree with if I want. What views do you subscribe to me anyways?

      BUT since your so annoyed after reading this, let me tell you what I think.

      This war of aggression being waged against Afghanistan will end in talks/negotiations for the complete withdrawal of foreigners.

      The fighting will not stop from the Afghan perspective until every foreigner leaves along with their stooges.as you have seen, the fighting is only intensifying. The US prseence and that of their stooges is the barrier to peace in Afghanistan and the rest of the region.

      This is the only way this ends.

      Please note, I am no longer interested in speaking with nonsensical individuals such as you and Scimitar. Let this be the last time I have to answer your redundant and unnecessary questions.

      I find something that speaks common sense, I post it.

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      • #4
        how am i annoyed? what is there even to be annoyed about? i read an article and noticed u posted it.


        u have stated in the past that the taliban are not negotiating for a settlement to the war. now u post an article which states that there have been negotiations and ur response was that u are posting articles which are factual. this contradicts ur own views. i know u like to flip flop when it comes to view points. case in point, one day ur saying karzai is independent and making "contacts" with regional nations, the next ur saying he is a sellout puppet lol

        u are even thanking posts by barakzai where he says the isi support the taliban, yet in ur own posts u deny that the taliban receive isi support.

        flip flopper
        There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

        Sayyid Qutb

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        • #5
          stop making up lies.

          When have I ever said Taliban do not have regional support from several nations? It doesn't matter if aliens from Mars have immediate common interests with them. It does not matter to the Afghan who is fighting for the freedom of his country if Hitler from the grave supported their resistance to the occupation of their country? IS THAT CLEAR TO YOU? or do I HAVE TO WRITE IN UPPER CASE LETTERS?

          If you were really interested in what Barakzai said, you would have read further and noticed that his factual words also spoke of the fact that it does not matter who supports or does not support their objective to free their country. Afghans are freeing their country.


          All wars end with talks. They can call the eventual talks for their withdrawal whatever they want for the retards like you, Scimitar, Toramana, and others.

          I can post whatever I want.

          Quit wasting bandwidth here.
          Last edited by Guest; 09-03-2011, 12:24 PM.

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          • #6
            Yes, to peace no to all wars and negotiation and unity of Afghans/Pashtons equal win-win for all! supporting unity and peace must be pursued by all true and sincere friends, allies and support of Afghans/Pashtons!

            Ghaljayia! Tah Zama Noor Posting Bandi Tabasari Nah Kawi Bas Youa Khawa day nawali dah mama !
            Last edited by Guest; 09-03-2011, 12:39 PM. Reason: corrections

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            • #7
              so basically ur entire existence here is based on multiple sn's and flip flopping on views. excellent! u are the joke of the forum lol
              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

              Sayyid Qutb

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