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  • #16
    Originally posted by Karachi View Post
    I agree with faye, in india its exactly the same situation if not worse in places like mumbai. I am sure children over there are also sexually abused on the streets. so not sure why pakistan is being picked on for this, because this situation happens in any poor country, places in africa are probably far worse


    ... because "foreign hands" always try to destabilize Pakistan.....the Land of the Pure has alot of impure enemies.......like Dr. Evil, Mini Me and Darth Vader.
    The only constant is change.

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    • #17
      that's funny because that's pretty much the excuses Afghans tend to use for everything wouldn't you say Mostafa?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Karachi View Post
        I agree with faye, in india its exactly the same situation if not worse in places like mumbai. I am sure children over there are also sexually abused on the streets. so not sure why pakistan is being picked on for this, because this situation happens in any poor country, places in africa are probably far worse
        there are terrible situations in africa and other places but it is good to have this information exposed or brought to light. just the fact that the police are responsible for so many assaults is absolutely shocking. if you don't know about it, it doesn't get changed. pakistan has to make changes, just as any other country.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
          that's funny because that's pretty much the excuses Afghans tend to use for everything wouldn't you say Mostafa?
          Well, with three major wars fought in the last 100 years and several proxy wars on our soil and expense, I would say, Afghans don´t have an excuse.
          Their words are based on known facts.

          The "boogyman"-theorie of Pakistan lacks substance.

          India is not interested in maintaining any kind of conflict with Pakistan.

          Pakistan needs an external threat to unite a diverse population under one banner.
          The only constant is change.

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          • #20
            The protections of children from all forms of evil and abuses is the collective responsiblity of all nations and people. Yes, Paki military peronnel children use state money to educate their children and get paid better salaries and they do not care about the children of general public so the economic divide is destibilizing pak not others and abuse of resources and abuse of people that live in Pak and that double game played by Pak that destibalize it you the Panjabi establishment what kind f games they played since 1979 in Afghanistan until today!

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            • #21
              why is india and Afghanistan mentioned in this thread.

              oh well pakis cant face the reality.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                Hi Faye, I hope you are in good health.

                The motivation behind my post was his blind defense of his nation. In order for a country to improve, you have to constructively criticize it. I think Americans do a good job at the aforementioned, albeit they have recently fell-off a little. At times, criticism impedes corruption, and that's why you have Australians criticizing their officials, when they feel as if it's necessary. The concern here is pretty obvious, Pakistan spends way too much of it's GDP on it's military, despite being a poverty stricken nation. India on the other hand obviously suffers from povery as well, but it's a rising, self-sufficient nation with a strong economy along with marvelous recent growth. So the discussion itself isn't about India, it got steered towards that direction when I saw his attempt of justifying Pakistan's 'boogie-man game'. While Pakistan is busy convincing it's people that India[despite having roughly the same Muslim population as Pakistan] is out to 'get us', India is busy inking agreements, and graduating engineers in excess! It's flooding the world with highly educated people from it's prestigious universities.

                Pakistan spends 4 percent of it's GDP on military, and compare that to India's 2.7. Not to mention, India is several times larger than Pakistan in terms of land and population. Pakistan spends only 2.2% if it's GDP on education! I guess it makes sense why India has a staggering 74percent literacy rate. I guess the aforementioned would make sense, since as of recent, India has been pushing it's government to spend 6% of it's GDP on education. That's nearly 3x of Pakistan. Obviously India isn't perfect, but Pakistan needs to do more for it's people, something even a common citizen complains about. The resources are available, the funding is available, but they would rather invest it in their military or be more concerned about who is in charge of Kabul. Besides, it's easy to subjugate a dumb nation - So I guess that plays a pivotal role for them in their nation.
                The Panjabi Establishment must stop the missuse of Pashtons/Afghans land natural resources and let them use their resources for Pashtons/Afghan children education!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                  So you inadvertently support innocent civilians suffering? All in all, as long as your military competes with India? Let me put this in elementary terms for you, India is more powerful than Afghanistan and Pakistan combined. India is more educated than Afghanistan and Pakistan combined. India's economy is larger than Pakistan and Afghanistan combined. If your enemy is 'India' then 'boy, oh boy' are you picking on the wrong country. India is a rising nation, and soon it will be capable of swallowing South Asia, if other nations remain uneducated. So rather than supporting blind policies, and a military regime, you should fiercely object such high military expenditures and focus on building your institutions. With all due respect, knowing Pakistan's literacy rate, and knowing that Pakistan focuses more on regurgitation and useless memorization, I am not surprised with your comment. I am aware that there is a widespread state-funded brainwashing rhetoric infested in your institutions, which pretty much teaches students that everything this nation does can be justified, because we are an 'Islamic state'. However, in one of your previous posts you mentioned "Afghan muhajir, this, and Muhajir that". Aside from the concept of Pakistan being self-contradicting, I don't understand how this 'Muslim' nation can call fellow Muslims muhajirs? I thought as long as you recited the Kalima, you were a Muslim and equal --Boy was I wrong, it's dirty politics as usual. Nonetheless, I do however, recommend you to focus more on your education, and wake up from this silly pathetic nightmare. There is no 'Boogieman' haunting you. Pakistan needs to stop wasting millions of dollars in it's paranoia disease. No, Kabul and New Delhi will not merge and attack you from both sides. Stop meddling in other nations affairs, if not, Pakistan will suffer like how it has today. The very same Taliban that they nurtured, supported, and recognized has killed 55 Army personnel today.

                  Jeevay Pakistan!

                  Hidden Darkness: Child Sexual Abuse in India


                  Written by Neeta Lal

                  An overwhelming number of India’s children face unwanted attention from sexual predators.



                  After a brilliant 16-year-old New Delhi girl repeatedly complained last month that her mathematics teacher was “touching and fondling her private parts,” the upshot was a long way from what anybody bargained for. When the girl’s parents complained, the principal called them “regressive” and blamed them for damaging the school’s reputation. The girl now stays at home to help cook and clean, her school bag lying in a locked cupboard, her scholastic career over.


                  The story of the girl, referred to only as Seema, is depressingly familiar, resonating across large parts of India, where abuse is a a startling everyday reality for as many as half of the country’s children, according to a just-released 13-state National Study on Child Sexual Abuse conducted by the Ministry of Women and Child Development, UNICEF and Save The Children.


                  It is a long-hidden issue that India is finally beginning to wrestle with. The government moved recently to establish a National Commission for Protection of Children's Rights and plans are afoot to present an Offences Against Children (Prevention) Bill in the Parliament. The proposed document has specific sections dealing with various crimes against children, including sale/transfer, sexual assault, sexual/physical/emotional abuse, commercial sexual exploitation, child pornography, grooming for sexual purpose, incest, corporal punishment, bullying and economic exploitation.


                  The scale of abuse, according to the national study, is far worse than anybody had thought. It reports that 69 per cent of all Indian children are victims of physical, mental or emotional abuse, with New Delhi’s children facing an astounding abuse rate of 83.12 percent.


                  The survey, which involved interviews with 12,447 children, also highlights that it is usually family members (89 percent) who perpetrate such crimes and that more boys face physical abuse (72.61) than girls (65 per cent). Overall, Indian children were found to be victims of a slew of sexual crimes -- rape, sodomy, exposure to pornographic material, fondling, forcible kissing and sexual advances, among others.


                  The study also notes that child sexual abuse in India begins as early as five, ratchets up dramatically during pre-pubescence and peaks at 12 to 16 years. Some 21 percent of respondents acknowledged experiencing severe sexual abuse like rape, sodomy, fondling or exposure to pornographic material. Ironically, 71 per cent of sexual assault cases in India go unreported.


                  Nor is the study an aberration. As long ago as the mid 1990s, Samvada, a non-governmental organization in Karnataka, surveyed girls aged 15 to 21 from 11 schools and reported that 47 percent of the respondents were molested or experienced sexual overtures, 15 percent of them under the age of 10. Another 15 percent said they had experienced serious forms of sexual abuse including rape – 31 percent of that group were under the age of 10 when the abuses took place.


                  India is home to more than 375 million children, comprising nearly 40 percent of the country’s population, the largest number of minors in any country in the world. Despite its ethos of non-violence, tolerance, spirituality and a new trillion-dollar economy, India hosts the world's largest number of sexually abused children, at a far higher rate than any other country.According to the World Health Organization (WHO), one in every four girls and one in every seven boys in the world are sexually abused, hardly encouraging, but still far below India’s totals.


                  Worse, child abuse is one of the least documented violations in the country, records author Grace Poore in the book, The Children We Sacrifice, which deals with the wide prevalence of child sexual abuse in India.


                  The reasons are manifold. In India, much like the rest of Asia, children are expected to respect and obey authority figures such as teachers, guidance counselors and principals and not question their actions. Rebellion is perceived as a sign of a bad upbringing. This sensibility perpetuates a culture of abuse by encouraging sexual predators.


                  Also, Indian adults often exercise a near-feudal hold over their children, demanding complete and unquestioned obedience. A culture of silence and shame also swirls around cases of sexual violence against children. Unsurprisingly, the notion of shame is the single largest culprit in perpetuating sexual violence against India’s children.


                  Ironically, despite the magnitude of the problem, Indian courts offer little panacea to victims. In fact the only legal recourse available to such victims is the extensions of “rape laws”, which apply to women and are stretched to apply to children as well.


                  But, as authorities point out, rape laws only recognize sexual crimes involving “penile penetration” and are totally dependent on medical evidence. Such evidence is difficult to procure as abuse is usually not one isolated case but a whole series of them. It may even involve episodes in which the offender doesn’t even touch the victim. Worse, the sexual molestation law covers all sexual offences “that outrage the victim’s modesty,” other than penetration. However, these two are bailable offences and only demand punishment of a maximum of two years in jail and/or a fine of few thousand rupees.


                  Though this law can be used in child sexual abuse cases, its reference to “unusual sexual offences” makes it difficult for child victims to use this option as a legal remedy. Since the definition of sexual abuse is nebulous, victims are largely at the mercy of the court’s discretion. On rare cases when abusers are booked after a cumbersome legal procedure, India’s conviction rate is so abysmal (despite the country’s sophisticated and complex set of laws), it seems like a Pyrrhic victory.


                  Apart from the legal dimension, child sexual abuse also has pronouncedly psychological and emotional elements. Worldwide surveys point out that such abuse negatively impacts a child’s physical, emotional and mental well-being, leading to severe behavioral and psychiatric disorders. Suicidal tendencies and drug abuse are common long-term effects.


                  A World Health Organization survey also points out that there is an unambiguous behavioral and emotional pattern in the abused. Usually the child hardly talks about the incident. And, even if he or she does, no one takes it seriously. That in turn triggers feelings of self doubt and guilt, exacerbating the child’s feeling that it is his or her fault. As the child matures, compulsive behavior reinforces this guilt. Small wonder that many adult sexual problems, according to psychoanalysts, trace their provenance to childhood abuse.


                  Charol Shakeshaft, a statistics professor in the School of Education and Allied Human Services at Hofstra University, New York, notes in her report, “Educator Sexual Misconduct: A Synthesis of Existing Literature,” that “child sexual abusers, including educators and priests, use similar patterns of ‘grooming practices’ to break down a child's defenses. Often popular and well-regarded in their field, abusers engage in ‘systematic and premeditated grooming’ where they lavish special treatment on their intended victim buying presents or sharing secrets, for example and then advance to pornography.”


                  Where then, does the solution lie? Educating and enlightening kids about such issues, helping them distinguish between “good” and “bad” touch, is a partial answer, authorities say. Children also ought to be made aware of impulsive decisions they may make under pressure from peers, bullies and abusers. Sex education in schools is also productive. The Netherlands, a country where teenage pregnancy rates plummeted from 60 per cent to about 25 per cent through aggressive sex information campaigns in schools, is an example.


                  However, in India the issue of sexual abuse is still wedged between legal and policy commitments to children on the one hand, and the fallout of globalization on the other. A nationwide furor resulted after the government’s recent decision to introduce sex education in schools. The subject has divided opinion between camps who felt such a step would lead to unnecessary experimentation by curious teenagers and others who believed it would help whittle down cases of sexual abuse by creating widespread awareness.


                  In the meantime, with child sexual abuse attracting so much scrutiny and public debate, the government has the added impetus to adopt strong and unequivocal measures to contain such crimes. For a country with nearly 40 per cent of its populace comprised of children, such measures are overdue.

                  http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.ph...=476&Itemid=34
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                    This is very sad. Hopefully these corrupt politicians can stop raking in the money, and work on social programs & education.

                    But no! Pakistan would rather focus on it's boogey-man, India! And spend an increased percentage of it's GDP on military, while India keeps on producing electrical engineers, Computer Scientists and a growing economy.

                    Indian Defence Budget 2011-12 Witnesses a 11.6 Per Cent Hike



                    India Defence Online, New Delhi – In the Indian Union Budget for the year 2011-2012, the Indian Finance Ministry has given special attention to defence by increasing the defence outlay whilst keeping India’s strategic goals at par by facilitating capital for the big-ticket purchases in the current fiscal year.
                    As per the defence budget for the fiscal 2011-12, the Indian Finance Ministry has given a 11.6 per cent hike which amounts to $34 billion. The hike of 11.6 per cent in defence budgetary allocations is a positive step compared to a mere 4 per cent last year. There has been 9 per cent jump in revenue expenditure and the Finance Ministry has also scaled up capital expenditure by providing more impetus to the modernization plans of the Indian Armed Forces. The defence capital acquisition for the financial year 2011-12 has been hiked to $12.22 billion, while capital expenditure for the same has been raised by about 12 percent to $15.38 billion.
                    As for the break-up of the total budgetary allocation, the Indian Army has been granted $14.2 billion, Indian Navy $2.35 billion, Indian Air Force (IAF) $3.53 billion and state-owned Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) $1.25 billion. Out of the $15.38 billion capital outlay, the Army got $4.21 billion, Navy $1.26 billion, Naval Fleet $1.62 billion and Air Force $6.82 billion.
                    It has been largely felt that the Indian Defence Ministry’s past record in utilising the Defence budget and the growing need for homeland security has led to a significant jump in the defence budget. The Indian Defence Ministry has been successful in exhausting the budgetary allocation for two fiscal years now in a row. Meanwhile, the 13.75 percent hike in capital expenditure has been made keeping in mind the big acquisition deals like the $10.2 billion deal for 126 multi-role combat aircraft, the $600 million deal for 197 light helicopters and the $647 million deal for 145 Ultra-light Howitzers for the Indian Army. The largest share of the increased capital expenditure would go to the IAF, which will spend $ 4.9 billion for procuring fighter and transport aircraft and helicopters of different types.
                    The Indian Defence Ministry has been pleased with the Defence budget and is confident of placing the necessary orders to ensure the current budgetary allocation is rightfully utilised. With the issue of greater homeland security in the Asian region and need for greater presence in the Indian Ocean region looming large, the current defence budget will be of substantial help to the Indian Armed Forces, especially with the Finance Ministry assuring that there would be no dearth of money for important acquisitions in the defence sector if required

                    http://indiadefenceonline.com/2528/i...per-cent-hike/
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                    • #25
                      India's poverty declined to 32% in 2009-10.


                      India's poverty is estimated to have declined to 32% in 2009-10 from 37.2% five years ago, as per preliminary findings of the Planning Commission.

                      India's poverty declined to 32% in 2009-10: Plan panel est - PTI -

                      India's Poverty Declines To 32% in 2009-10 | Businessworld

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                      Reducing poverty: India well ahead of Pakistan: World Bank-IMF report

                      A new World Bank-IMF report said that India is well ahead of Pakistan in reducing poverty and all South Asian nations are required to do more to keep GDP growth rate at least at 7 percent to achieve millennium development goals

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                      direct report of world bank
                      India Estimates: Similarly, estimates for India also indicate a continuing decline in poverty. The revised estimates suggest that the percentage of people living below $1.25 a day in 2005 (which, based on India’s PPP rate, works out to Rs 21.6 a day in urban areas and Rs 14.3 in rural areas in 2005 ) decreased from 60% in 1981 to 42% in 2005. Even at a dollar a day ( Rs 17.2 in urban areas and Rs 11.4 in rural areas in 2005 ) poverty declined from 42% to 24% over the same period.
                      Both the dollar a day and $1.25 measures indicate that India has made steady progress against poverty since the 1980s, with the poverty rate declining at a little under one percentage point per year. This means that the number of very poor people who lived below a dollar a day in 2005 has come down from 296 million in 1981 to 267 million in 2005.
                      India - New Global Poverty Estimates

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                      • #26
                        Yeah.jingoism aside,India is still a third world country like all south Asian nations.we have many problems like poverty,naxalism,corruption etc.....the only thing which separate us is the consistent high growth rate 8-9% since last decade ...
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                        ...India with its booming economy & forex reserves in excess of 300 $ billion can afford to spend money on defence ,the same cant be said of Pakistan, with virtually no forex reserves (the situation was so dire that they had to resort to an emergency lone from the IMF) and military handouts from the United States ..

                        India's forex reserves increase by $2.71 bn to $308.2 bn

                        India's foreign exchange reserves rose by $2.71 billion to $308.2 billion on the back of an increase in foreign currency assets.

                        India's forex reserves increase by $2.71 bn to $308.2 bn

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                        we have 67 % poverty in 1970...now we r at 32 %...if we continue to grow at current rate , poverty will be reduced to below 20% in next 10 years...

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                        & In the view of the continuing territorial disputes with China and Pakistan and the increasing nuclear, missile and military hardware nexus between them -- prompting the need to prepare for a two-front future war India plans to spend approximately $100 billion over the next 10 years on defence modernisation.then of course we fought wars in 1947,62, 65,71,99 ....
                        Last edited by Maulik; 08-29-2011, 01:02 AM.

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                        • #27
                          ^ but is the boom effecting everybody, from what i have read rural people and poorer people are not really getting any benefit

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                            ^ but is the boom effecting everybody, from what i have read rural people and poorer people are not really getting any benefit
                            majority of people who got benfeited from boom are the urben people...when the complete boom reaches to rural people then India will start to become a developed country from developing one...All hope lies on Right to education Act....
                            Education now a fundamental right - YouTube

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