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  • #46
    Originally posted by Aab-e-Hayat View Post
    Unity is difficult because of arrogant afghans like you who insults lar pashtuns by calling them slaves of punjab.
    Listen im yusufzai from the swat valley of khyber pukhtunkhwa how then can i be insulting. You assumed im from afghanistan because my name states such. Im a proud Afghan from khyber pukhtunkhwa and i know my history ver well.

    do you think Im willing to exchange 5000 years of history for 60 odd years of a cowardice history. I'll never class my self as Pakistani and your fist of a paki flag makes me sick.

    Im am the descendent of Ahmad Shah Abdali and if you so choose to be Qaidi Azams nephew then so be it.

    The only way we will ever unite is when every pukhtun calls himself Afghan, when every son of our mother land stands up to military intervention in our areas.

    Do you know that the Pakistan army has forced every single shop owner to paint the Pakistan flag on his shop shutter? why because they know we are proud Afghans and we wont submit to the ****ty flag. Thats why they force it upon the poor shop owners who have no choice but to paint if they want to carry on feeding their families.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
      I am aware of his identity crisis.

      A Farsi name, Pashtun ethnicity, Pakistani nationality.....something is deeply wrong here....
      lolzzzzzz
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      • #48
        Originally posted by AfghanResistance View Post
        Listen im yusufzai from the swat valley of khyber pukhtunkhwa how then can i be insulting. You assumed im from afghanistan because my name states such. Im a proud Afghan from khyber pukhtunkhwa and i know my history ver well.

        do you think Im willing to exchange 5000 years of history for 60 odd years of a cowardice history. I'll never class my self as Pakistani and your fist of a paki flag makes me sick.

        Im am the descendent of Ahmad Shah Abdali and if you so choose to be Qaidi Azams nephew then so be it.

        The only way we will ever unite is when every pukhtun calls himself Afghan, when every son of our mother land stands up to military intervention in our areas.

        Do you know that the Pakistan army has forced every single shop owner to paint the Pakistan flag on his shop shutter? why because they know we are proud Afghans and we wont submit to the ****ty flag. Thats why they force it upon the poor shop owners who have no choice but to paint if they want to carry on feeding their families.
        One of - though not the only - ways to defeat these Punjabis and their slaves i.e. traitors like Luffy the thief, is education, education, education.

        Educate your children from a young age discreetly about the true nature of Pakistan and to be proud Pashtuns, though in a clever way i.e not to display it when not really required but to be proud sons of Ahmed Shah Abdali (rahmatullahi alaih), Mirwais Hotak (rahmatullahi alaih).

        Under communist rule, communist Russian/Jewish teachers asked Chechen children if they believed in God, and if they said yes their parents would lose their jobs.

        The Chechen children when asked if they believed in God, replied....

        NO

        The communists were happy and delighted, the children internally smiled and said to themselves "we don't believe in God (Bog in Russian), but we believe in Allah".

        In Turkey Muslim parents taught their children from a young age to never say anything bad about the evil tyrant Ataturk, and many would pretend to like him but inside hated that bast**rd.

        Pashtuns must teach their children who they really are, the true nature of Pakistan and to be clever about it.

        They must encourage their children to be educated, doctors, engineers and be united.

        This education translates in to professional success which can then be converted in to financial strength to help the Pashtun cause.

        If/When Pashtunkhwa becomes independent it will need educated people such as engineers, doctors, accountants, managers to run it.

        There are many interesting models of resistance to occupation existent one of the most interesting is that of the Kosovars who established a parallel state besides the Serbs and used peaceful means initially.

        In 1989, Serbian President Slobodan Milošević unilaterally abolished Kosovo's autonomy within Yugoslavia.[3] A harsh regime was imposed, leading to widespread violations of human rights and the repression of dissenters.[4] An estimated 130,000 Kosovo Albanians were sacked from their jobs[5] and the police in particular were almost completely purged of Albanians[6] There were numerous reports of extrajudicial beatings, torture and killings, attracting strong criticism from human rights groups and other countries....


        In December 1989, Rugova and a number of other dissents set up the Democratic League of Kosovo as a vehicle for opposing Milošević's policies. Rugova became leader after the first candidate, Rexhep Qosja, a prominent nationalist writer, refused the job. The new party was an overwhelming success and within months, 700,000 people – virtually the entire adult population of Kosovo Albanians – had joined. The LDK established a "shadow government" and a "Parallel Social System" to provide education and health services to the Albanian population, which was either excluded from or chose not to use the equivalent services provided by the Serbian government. An underground Kosovo Assembly was founded with Bujar Bukoshi acting as Prime Minister from the safe distance of Germany. The shadow government's activities were mostly funded by the overseas Kosovo Albanian diaspora, based primarily in Germany and the United States. However, Rugova's government was recognised officially only by the government of Albania
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Rugova

        The Kosova model is not applicable to Pashtunkhwa which has some fundamental differences e.g. the Serbs and Kosovar Albanians had no similiarity whatsoever, ethnically, linguistically or religiously, very much a "them and us" scenario, whereas in Pashtunkhwa many Pashtuns have adopted Pakistani nationalism and believe in unity due to religion a, "haam Musulman bhai hoon" notion.

        It is important to lay the infrastructure, culturally, intellectually and mentally of an independent Pashtunkhwa. There will always be liars, backstabbers and traitors like Luffy the thief, that is inevitable but the vast majority of people are open to change.

        Having followed Pashtunkhwa affairs for a number of years know I can tell you - though you will know better since you are from there - there has really been a fundamental change, yes there is still a pro-Pakistan majority, but that is also a majority that now realizes that Pakistan may not work, it may collapse and there is the real possibility or a need of an independent Pashtunkhwa.

        So to summarize, educating the Pashtun youth, making them mentally, culturally, religiously (real Islam not Taliban rubbish or Zaid Hamid) and financially strong is of the utmost importance.
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        • #49
          My tajik friend mostafa: aab-e-hayat is derived from arabic. "aab" in arabic means water and "hayat" in arabic means life. If it is also word of your dari then i assume dari is heavily mixed with arabic.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Aab-e-Hayat View Post
            My tajik friend mostafa: aab-e-hayat is derived from arabic. "aab" in arabic means water and "hayat" in arabic means life. If it is also word of your dari then i assume dari is heavily mixed with arabic.

            Don´t pull things out of your ass, my stupid Arab-worshipping identity-less monkey!

            "nahla" is the Arabic expression for "water" or "drinking water".

            "hayat" is the sole Arabic expression in your name that was taken by Farsi.

            BUT no Arab would call himself "Aab-E Hayat"!

            This small little E in your name is such a persianized version.
            The Arabic expression would be Nahla Al-Hayat.

            Stop sticking to Tajiki-culture, My ID-less.

            LOL

            Pakis trying to play the language card with me.....

            The only constant is change.

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            • #51
              Afghanresistance is my fellow pashtun, i have read his post and i understand his point of view. If my whole pashtun nation raise rebellion against pakistan then i am with my people. No matter what blood is thicker than water.
              i am not yet fully clear about mostafa but if he is a pashtun then i hope we can agree on some points.
              But i am giving no importance to this bengali racist, the basic question is what is he doing on a pashtun forum discussing deep pashtun matters and insulting pashtuns like me, shehbaz, nokia, maseed etc

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                Don´t pull things out of your ass, my stupid Arab-worshipping identity-less monkey!

                "nahla" is the Arabic expression for "water" or "drinking water".

                "hayat" is the sole Arabic expression in your name that was taken by Farsi.

                BUT no Arab would call himself "Aab-E Hayat"!

                This small little E in your name is such a persianized version.
                The Arabic expression would be Nahla Al-Hayat.

                Stop sticking to Tajiki-culture, My ID-less.

                LOL

                Pakis trying to play the language card with me.....

                have you read quran? Both aab and hayat words are used in quran.
                E is used in urdu for ism-e-murakab.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Aab-e-Hayat View Post
                  Afghanresistance is my fellow pashtun, i have read his post and i understand his point of view. If my whole pashtun nation raise rebellion against pakistan then i am with my people. No matter what blood is thicker than water.
                  i am not yet fully clear about mostafa but if he is a pashtun then i hope we can agree on some points.
                  But i am giving no importance to this bengali racist, the basic question is what is he doing on a pashtun forum discussing deep pashtun matters and insulting pashtuns like me, shehbaz, nokia, maseed etc


                  So you say in other words, you are a spineless coward who would rather go with the flow then to take his own fate into his own hands?

                  That´s NOT what Pashtun identity is about, my Green & White-Flagged friend.
                  Last edited by MostafaM; 09-06-2011, 06:45 PM.
                  The only constant is change.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Aab-e-Hayat View Post
                    have you read quran? Both aab and hayat words are used in quran.
                    E is used in urdu for ism-e-murakab.

                    You should acknowledge the deep influence of Farsi language on Pakistan.

                    Pashtuns in general could preserve their language, only broken records like you play the Tajki-here-Tajik-there card while being heavily influenced by Tajiki language themselves.

                    When will you start to make sense?

                    Your own Urdu is Farsi to 70%!
                    The only constant is change.

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                    • #55
                      Between you are the one who always bring langauge card to target my nickname, dont blame pakis wrora.

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                      • #56
                        [QUOTE=Suhail Ahmad Shayan;512987]
                        Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                        I am aware of his identity crisis.

                        A Farsi name, Pashtun ethnicity, Pakistani nationality.....something is deeply wrong here....[/QUOTE]

                        whats so wrong about that,

                        i ve got a preety persian name and im an ethnic pashtun of paki nationality

                        although i couldnt give a rats ass about pakistan

                        IF you don´t give a rats ass about Pakistan as a state, then there is nothing wrong with that.

                        My point was Farsi/Pashtun/Pakistani identity mix.

                        Sounds wrong to me.
                        The only constant is change.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                          You should acknowledge the deep influence of Farsi language on Pakistan.

                          Pashtuns in general could preserve their language, only broken records like you play the Tajki-here-Tajik-there card while being heavily influenced by Tajiki language themselves.

                          When will you start to make sense?

                          Your own Urdu is Farsi to 70%!
                          Pakistan is influenced from iranian farsi, not your tajiki dari.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Aab-e-Hayat View Post
                            Pakistan is influenced from iranian farsi, not your tajiki dari.

                            Ah really?

                            LOL

                            There is no difference between these two in written literature.

                            And DARI is more pure from Arabic and Turkic expression than Iranian Farsi.

                            You know and I know who have ruled you and who introduced "URDU", the language for the armed forces of a colonized subindian continent, to you.

                            The only constant is change.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                              So you say in other words, you are a spineless coward who would rather go with the flow then to take his own fate into his own hands?

                              That´s NOT what Pashtun identity is about, my Green & White-Flagged friend.
                              Call me coward or some other thing but i am not inclined that much towards nationalism and i have a life.Too much obsession with pashtunism is not good for every one, it should be within limits.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
                                Ah really?

                                LOL

                                There is no difference between these two in written literature.

                                And DARI is more pure from Arabic and Turkic expression than Iranian Farsi.

                                You know and I know who have ruled you and who introduced "URDU", the language for the armed forces of a colonized subindian continent, to you.

                                We have borrowed arabic mixed farsi from iran because urdu is composed of two major langauges, farsi and arabic.

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