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    An interesting article written by our member Pir_Rokhan.


    Afghanistan has always been used as a chess ground for Int'l and neighboring powers and Afghans/Pashtuns have always been used as cannon fodders by imperialist powers to safeguard their national interests. Greeks, Mongols, Mughal, British and now Punjabis have used their might to strengthen their empires. Pakistan used Afghans and Afghanistan to safeguard her integrity and milk US by propagating the false propagandas of Jihad against occupiers and fight in the name of Islam as well as homeland hence helped US to be the leader of a unipolar world.

    PDPA and Dr Najib, whatever ideology they believed in, were helping Afghanistan to become a developed state and that is why they were hated by Pakistani establishment. The mistake which they did was to overestimate the socio-political evolution of Afghans and their attempt to jump from a less evolved social level to a more evolved political structure directly bypassing the intermediate stages and neglecting the religious inclinations and tribal affiliations of the people.

    My analysis of US/NATO presence mandated by UN [real or fake] is as follows:

    US or any other westren country never had any intentions of occupying Afghanistan as it has nothing other than strategic geo-political status. Their interest has always been to safeguard their regional interests and help secure their countries against the threats of religeous extremists elements.

    The second interest of NATO countries in Afghanistan is to curb extremism and terrorism in both Pakistan and Afghanistan. Pakistanis do not like the same Quran and Sunnat, for their own country but love to help all those factions and groups in Afghanistan who were used to make the world unipolar and have their foolish and out of date interpretation of Islam for the Afghans to drag them back into the medieval ages. This is the dichotomy of the Pakistan establishment.

    Their third interest is the selling of arms by catalyzing intra-tribal and sectarian differences in the third world countries. It is well known that US corporations have monetary interests in such wars and operations.

    Their fourth interest is to check the movement and advancement of China to access the trade route to Arabia Gulf wherein Pakistan comes to picture again.

    Hence the first world is not interested in occupying Afghanistan contrary to Gulf and North African states which they want to colonise economically by taking control of their oil resources.

    Unfortunately being far from political realities, the zealouts and propagandists consider the presence of US or NATO in failed states like Afghanistan or Pakistan etc as intervention and the completion of their mission as retreat. This can help motivate juvenile minds but is far from mature political realities prevalent in the world.

    I agree we should resist any occupation and imperialist design and that is why I urge upon Afghans not to get deceived by labels like Muslim brother countries like Pakistan or O.I.C or Arabs etc as states are run by national interests based on pragmatic realities and not by utopian philosophies.

    With the withdrawal of ISAF/NATO forces, the following are likely to happen:

    1) A civil war in Afghanistan between tribes and factions in which Taliban would be backed by Pakistan and others by other countries.

    2) An active interest of neighboring countries like Pakistan, Iran and India in Afghanistan.

    3) Another surge of migration and hence a loss of lives and property and a second rate citizenship in another country without dignity and respect.

    4) Afghanistan becoming a chessground for the int’l powers again.

    The US or any other western state is not the enemy of Afghanistan atleast they have a mandate [real of fake] from UN to be in Afghanistan. They are non Muslims hence their status is known to Afghans [meaning in case they cross their mandate and try to become occupiers then Afghans can easily fight them].

    Unlike the foolish conceptions of freedom and sovereignty which third world countries are suffering from [that is: claiming sovereignty and freedom without economic independence], the first world countries have other interests, like curbing extremist and terrorist elements in Pakistan from spreading all over, selling their weapons by encashing intra-tribal enmities or sectarian differences or having a check on China for using the trade route to the Arabian gulf etc.

    It is Pakistan which pretends to be Muslim neighbor country but is the real enemy of fellow muslim Afghans/Pashtuns. The enmity of Pakistan towards Afghans is clear from her ethnic cleansing policy towards Pashtuns in Pakistan [by labeling them as terrorists] and GHQ's policy of keeping Afghanistan unstable to keep her dependent on Pakistan.

    As I said earlier, the concept of freedom of third world countries is fake. When you have no industry, no manufacturing, no human resource, no infra structure, no logistics and no other pre requisites for economic independence how can you even think of political sovereignty and freedom. Political freedom without economic independence is a mirage.

    It is therefore suggested that after the completion of US/NATO mission, Afghans should continue the democratic process and even ask Taliban to form a political faction/party and let Afghans elect those whom they like. With continuous electioneering process, when all those who want to represent Afghans have to go back to the masses to ask for vote, those who are foreign proxies or concocted parties working for their vested interests will be slowly eliminated.

    Presidential form of govt should be adopted so that a person is free to realise his agenda with the help of his party and does not have to get much involved in the dirty power politics. Whatever institutions have been developed in the last decade should be strengthened based on the principle of "right man for the right job".

    Defence should be given top importance. Afghanistan should have a political and military immunity to survive and progress.

    Justice and education should be the other priorities in the list. Justice is a pre requisite for survival while education which gives birth to a techno-creative culture is the means to progress and prosperity.

    The principle of " Al-aqrab fal-aqrab" [First comes first] says that it is obligatory for the Afghans to defend their land first against all hegemonial powers be they muslim or non muslim. There is no need to worry about the rest of the world when your own homeland is a playground for the big game played even by Muslim autocratic and theocratic states that are ever ready to invest in Afghanistan to safeguard their political interests.

    The principle of "wa ayyiddo lahum mas tata'a min quwa'a" [Prepare yourself for your enemy] dictates that Afghans should equip themselves with latest technology for which they have to study pure and applied sciences.

    Quran says that " Inna katheran min ahbarun wa ruhbanun la yakuloon amwaal nas bil batil" [Most among the clergy are exploiters], hence Afghans should never look upto religious clergy to solve their national or collective issues but towards honest and competent persons with a broad vision for the country as well as for the region.

    Last but not least if Islam and Pashtunwali or any code is of no use to humanity and Afghans are not able to contribute something positive to humanity as the west has done, despite their exploitative govt then Afghans should start the countdown for their downfall and demise.
    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

  • #2
    Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
    An interesting article written by our member Pir_Rokhan.


    Afghanistan has always been used as a chess ground for Int'l and neighboring powers and Afghans/Pashtuns have always been used as cannon fodders by imperialist powers to safeguard their national interests. Greeks, Mongols, Mughal, British and now Punjabis have used their might to strengthen their empires. Pakistan used Afghans and Afghanistan to safeguard her integrity and milk US by propagating the false propagandas of Jihad against occupiers and fight in the name of Islam as well as homeland hence helped US to be the leader of a unipolar world.

    PDPA and Dr Najib, whatever ideology they believed in, were helping Afghanistan to become a developed state and that is why they were hated by Pakistani establishment. The mistake which they did was to overestimate the socio-political evolution of Afghans and their attempt to jump from a less evolved social level to a more evolved political structure directly bypassing the intermediate stages and neglecting the religious inclinations and tribal affiliations of the people.

    My analysis of US/NATO presence mandated by UN [real or fake] is as follows:

    US or any other westren country never had any intentions of occupying Afghanistan as it has nothing other than strategic geo-political status. Their interest has always been to safeguard their regional interests and help secure their countries against the threats of religeous extremists elements.

    The second interest of NATO countries in Afghanistan is to curb extremism and terrorism in both Pakistan and Afghanistan. Pakistanis do not like the same Quran and Sunnat, for their own country but love to help all those factions and groups in Afghanistan who were used to make the world unipolar and have their foolish and out of date interpretation of Islam for the Afghans to drag them back into the medieval ages. This is the dichotomy of the Pakistan establishment.

    Their third interest is the selling of arms by catalyzing intra-tribal and sectarian differences in the third world countries. It is well known that US corporations have monetary interests in such wars and operations.

    Their fourth interest is to check the movement and advancement of China to access the trade route to Arabia Gulf wherein Pakistan comes to picture again.

    Hence the first world is not interested in occupying Afghanistan contrary to Gulf and North African states which they want to colonise economically by taking control of their oil resources.

    Unfortunately being far from political realities, the zealouts and propagandists consider the presence of US or NATO in failed states like Afghanistan or Pakistan etc as intervention and the completion of their mission as retreat. This can help motivate juvenile minds but is far from mature political realities prevalent in the world.

    I agree we should resist any occupation and imperialist design and that is why I urge upon Afghans not to get deceived by labels like Muslim brother countries like Pakistan or O.I.C or Arabs etc as states are run by national interests based on pragmatic realities and not by utopian philosophies.

    With the withdrawal of ISAF/NATO forces, the following are likely to happen:

    1) A civil war in Afghanistan between tribes and factions in which Taliban would be backed by Pakistan and others by other countries.

    2) An active interest of neighboring countries like Pakistan, Iran and India in Afghanistan.

    3) Another surge of migration and hence a loss of lives and property and a second rate citizenship in another country without dignity and respect.

    4) Afghanistan becoming a chessground for the int’l powers again.

    The US or any other western state is not the enemy of Afghanistan atleast they have a mandate [real of fake] from UN to be in Afghanistan. They are non Muslims hence their status is known to Afghans [meaning in case they cross their mandate and try to become occupiers then Afghans can easily fight them].

    Unlike the foolish conceptions of freedom and sovereignty which third world countries are suffering from [that is: claiming sovereignty and freedom without economic independence], the first world countries have other interests, like curbing extremist and terrorist elements in Pakistan from spreading all over, selling their weapons by encashing intra-tribal enmities or sectarian differences or having a check on China for using the trade route to the Arabian gulf etc.

    It is Pakistan which pretends to be Muslim neighbor country but is the real enemy of fellow muslim Afghans/Pashtuns. The enmity of Pakistan towards Afghans is clear from her ethnic cleansing policy towards Pashtuns in Pakistan [by labeling them as terrorists] and GHQ's policy of keeping Afghanistan unstable to keep her dependent on Pakistan.

    As I said earlier, the concept of freedom of third world countries is fake. When you have no industry, no manufacturing, no human resource, no infra structure, no logistics and no other pre requisites for economic independence how can you even think of political sovereignty and freedom. Political freedom without economic independence is a mirage.

    It is therefore suggested that after the completion of US/NATO mission, Afghans should continue the democratic process and even ask Taliban to form a political faction/party and let Afghans elect those whom they like. With continuous electioneering process, when all those who want to represent Afghans have to go back to the masses to ask for vote, those who are foreign proxies or concocted parties working for their vested interests will be slowly eliminated.

    Presidential form of govt should be adopted so that a person is free to realise his agenda with the help of his party and does not have to get much involved in the dirty power politics. Whatever institutions have been developed in the last decade should be strengthened based on the principle of "right man for the right job".

    Defence should be given top importance. Afghanistan should have a political and military immunity to survive and progress.

    Justice and education should be the other priorities in the list. Justice is a pre requisite for survival while education which gives birth to a techno-creative culture is the means to progress and prosperity.

    The principle of " Al-aqrab fal-aqrab" [First comes first] says that it is obligatory for the Afghans to defend their land first against all hegemonial powers be they muslim or non muslim. There is no need to worry about the rest of the world when your own homeland is a playground for the big game played even by Muslim autocratic and theocratic states that are ever ready to invest in Afghanistan to safeguard their political interests.

    The principle of "wa ayyiddo lahum mas tata'a min quwa'a" [Prepare yourself for your enemy] dictates that Afghans should equip themselves with latest technology for which they have to study pure and applied sciences.

    Quran says that " Inna katheran min ahbarun wa ruhbanun la yakuloon amwaal nas bil batil" [Most among the clergy are exploiters], hence Afghans should never look upto religious clergy to solve their national or collective issues but towards honest and competent persons with a broad vision for the country as well as for the region.

    Last but not least if Islam and Pashtunwali or any code is of no use to humanity and Afghans are not able to contribute something positive to humanity as the west has done, despite their exploitative govt then Afghans should start the countdown for their downfall and demise.
    The article misses the point completely. It creates an anti history of Afghanistan that neglects the true culture of the rural masses, steeped in religious practices. Moreover, he forgets completely and utterly about the history of the neighboring istan states ruled by the Najib equivalents (such is Karimov and his ilk). Those countries also were taken over by proxies of the Russian juggernaut. To claim that the Islamists should not have seen an impending threat on the horizon would have been to forget that scrawled on the walls of the Uzbek mosques as the Russians invaded was: There is No God and Lenin is his Prophet. Chechnyaa and its modern history and incarnations of recurring warfare as another set in stone example of how it would have been cultural suicide for the Afghans to lay down their jizails and AKs to submit to Moscow's interference. Finally, the article makes the fatal flaw of assuming that overturning an intervention with another intervention is inherently wrong. That is absurd. Rather, it was the initial intervention by Moscow that was, in and of itself, wrong.
    "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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    • #3
      Barakzai Sahab, pa khair. I hope you are in good health.

      You bring up good points as well. If possible, could you please elaborate? Since I find your posts to be pretty informative as well.

      I have some elementary misconceptions/questions:

      1)Didn't Najib ask for Moscows help? If yes, how is that intervening?
      2)Do you think Najib had malicious intentions? If yes, why didn't he leave Kabul when he had the gateway available?

      I would love to see Pir_Rokhan offer his rebuttal to your post BA saab. I think it would be a very fruitful discussion.

      P.S
      I hope you don't think that when I post an article, I endorse it. I post all kind of material, and I read all kind of books for one purpose only, and that is to learn. The only way we can succeed is if we learn how to think in different dimensions. I'm sure you know the rest, I've eloquently said this before as well.
      Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

      A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

      For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


      The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

      -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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      • #4
        why didn't he leave Kabul


        drooooooooon swal da...
        تار تار پروت دی چا راټول نه کړو سائله
        د پښتون وطن ګرېوان د لېوني دی

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
          Barakzai Sahab, pa khair. I hope you are in good health.

          You bring up good points as well. If possible, could you please elaborate? Since I find your posts to be pretty informative as well.

          I have some elementary misconceptions/questions:

          1)Didn't Najib ask for Moscows help? If yes, how is that intervening?
          2)Do you think Najib had malicious intentions? If yes, why didn't he leave Kabul when he had the gateway available?

          I would love to see Pir_Rokhan offer his rebuttal to your post BA saab. I think it would be a very fruitful discussion.

          P.S
          I hope you don't think that when I post an article, I endorse it. I post all kind of material, and I read all kind of books for one purpose only, and that is to learn. The only way we can succeed is if we learn how to think in different dimensions. I'm sure you know the rest, I've eloquently said this before as well.
          Not at all. Your intentions are always good ones. I have yet to meet a Qandahari, including Mr. Karzai who was himself brutalized by Najib's men, that endorses this stuff and I am sure this is a fair intellectual exercise on your part.

          It was intervention because there is no proof that Najib had a valid mandate from the Afghan populace to speak on behalf of it. It would be as absurd to claim, for example, that if President Obama invited the Chinese military into the US, that it was on behalf and with the full acceptance of the American people. The American people voted for a domestic and foreign policy platform... not such a drastic action.

          The well documented history of Najib (ullah would be a later prefix in his more opportunistic phase) and his involvement with KHAD and its relationship with the KGB central is more than enough to paint Najib as an intervention hoisted on the Afghan people itself.

          Furthermore, to claim that Najib had no ill intentions, as some have claimed, toward Pakistan or did not cajole it is to forget his involvement with the Bhutto brothers in housing and sheltering them in Kabul during their Shinanigans and their ill fated make believe reproduction of being South Asia Che Geuveras.

          Moreover, leaders make bad choices when it comes to self preservation sometimes. Mubarak and Qaddafi are accepted dictators, neither of which ceded ground or left their respective countries. Qaddafi is probably regreting that right now. That doesnt make them right. Also, brothers Ahmadzai (Najib and his brother) did flee to the UN headquarters... they never saw the lightening speed onslaught of the Muj forces overtaking them.
          "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
            Barakzai Sahab, pa khair. I hope you are in good health.

            You bring up good points as well. If possible, could you please elaborate? Since I find your posts to be pretty informative as well.

            I have some elementary misconceptions/questions:

            1)Didn't Najib ask for Moscows help? If yes, how is that intervening?
            2)Do you think Najib had malicious intentions? If yes, why didn't he leave Kabul when he had the gateway available?

            I would love to see Pir_Rokhan offer his rebuttal to your post BA saab. I think it would be a very fruitful discussion.

            P.S
            I hope you don't think that when I post an article, I endorse it. I post all kind of material, and I read all kind of books for one purpose only, and that is to learn. The only way we can succeed is if we learn how to think in different dimensions. I'm sure you know the rest, I've eloquently said this before as well.
            In his analytical response, Rokhan will have to deal with factual history and the antithesis that the Soviet Empire had toward Islam:

            http://www.jstor.org/pss/4328014

            The abstract page of this article above details the Soviet attempt to stamp out Islam and how Tajiks sustained Islam in secrecy against the odds.

            Therefore, to tell any religious rural Afghan: Shhhhh be quiet... abandon your principles because otherwise you play into Pakistan's hands by fighting Najib, when the whole of the world knew about the Soviet policy regarding religion and God would be religious suicide and untenable. The Americans themselves would go on to add the words "under God" into their pledge of allegiance to demonstrate their own antagonism toward communism. It is equally well known that Islamists in their writings did not trust this "more religious" superpower. Azzam is just such an example.
            "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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            • #7
              The negotiations shouldn't be between the Taliban, US & Pakistan. I think to avert a civil war efforts have to be made to bring different ethnic minorities to the table with the Taliban and these talks should not be facilitated by any other party except the Afghans.

              However, you need initiative from the Afghan people and their representatives to achieve this. So far the entire reconciliation if any at all, is going on between the talibs and the US backed karzai-type pashtun moderates in-charge..you are leaving the tajiks and what not out of these talks again, they have to factor in for a stable equation.

              Look foreign countries or agencies get the opportunity to meddle in a country's affairs only when there is weakness inside. If you stand together as a nation, overcome this ethnic division and mistrust only then can you achieve true prosperity and nijaa't from foreign elements. Otherwise, no matter how many times you beat the drums against foreign meddlers and "punjabees" nothing is gonna change, if it wasnt Pakistan it would be Iran, if not them then India, if not India then Russia, if not them then China the list goes on
              It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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              • #8
                Also Pir_Rokhan you dont even factor the post-war presence of US special forces and CIA in Afghanistan..Thats all they are after, permanent bases and an entrenched covert presence both within the government


                US troops may stay in Afghanistan until 2024 - Telegraph
                It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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                • #9
                  There will be no permanent presence, **** is hitting the fan. Soviets talked the same BS as blood was seeping out from their backside.

                  When hell continues to break lose, who will talk?
                  Last edited by Guest; 08-23-2011, 03:11 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Gilani urges US Senators to devise strategy for promoting bilateral ties

                    APP




                    ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani called upon a group of United States Senators to devise a common strategy to promote relationship of Pakistan and United States beyond 2014.
                    He said, “it is also instrumental in assisting each other in intelligence sharing and defence co-operation with a view to keep the region stable.”
                    “As friends we should accept that we have divergence of views but we should learn to trust each other as our relationship is too vital for both the countries,” stated Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani when a delegation of US Senators led by Robert P. Casey called on him here Friday.
                    Other Senators of the delegation were Senator Michel Bennet, Senator Sheldon Whitehouse and Senator Richard Blumenthal.
                    The Prime Minister reiterated that Pakistan wanted a sovereign, independent, stable and prosperous Afghanistan.
                    “We support the process of reconciliation in the country which is Afghan-led and Afghan-owned. Pakistan is part of solution and not part of problem,” he added.
                    The Prime Minister mentioned about his two visits to Afghanistan and the Afghan President’s visit to Pakistan, and added that the two countries shared the commonality of views over the process of reconciliation in Afghanistan.
                    He urged that the positive messaging from the two countries would help create an enabling environment for the leadership of both countries to strengthen their bilateral relations and also deny space to the terrorists to capitalize on.
                    The US Senators expressed their grave concern over the Improvised Explosive Devices(IED) which are killing the Pakistani and the US troops alike and there was a dire need to put in place a mechanism to regulate manufacturing, transportation, storage and distribution of ammonium nitrate used by terrorists.
                    Ammonium nitrate is used by the terrorists to make IEDs and the same chemical is heavily used by the fertilizer factories to produce fertilizer.
                    The Senators were told that the Government of Pakistan had already placed stringent laws which regulate the manufacturing, transportation, storage and sale of the ammonium nitrates. Pakistan has amended the Explosive Amendment Law to cope with the situation.
                    The Prime Minister said that Pakistan had already blocked about 20 million unauthorized SIMs preventing their misuse by the terrorists.
                    The Interior Secretary apprised the Senators that in collaboration with the US Embassy, an awareness campaign against IEDs will be launched next month so that people know the dangers involved and also how to protect themselves from the dangerous explosive device.
                    The Prime Minister said a Centre of Excellence had been set up at Raisalpur that exclusively imparts training to the personnel of the law enforcement agencies, enhancing their capacity to deal with the lethal explosive and saving the valuable lives.
                    The Prime Minister said Pakistan had good neighborly relations with all neighboring countries including India and Afghanistan.
                    The Prime Minister said it was welcome realization on the part of India that the talks between India and Pakistan should not be held hostage to terrorist attack of Mumbai.
                    He mentioned the recent fruitful visit of Pakistan’s Foreign Minister to India and also earlier visits of the Commerce Secretary and Interior Secretary and exchanges at senior level between the two countries.
                    US Senators appreciated the sacrifices of Pakistan and extended their sympathies with the families whose near and dear ones had lost their lives in fight against terrorists.
                    Last edited by Guest; 08-26-2011, 04:01 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Taliban ridicule US’s peace talks - Indian Punchline

                      "ZM also gave an Afghan-style warning — leaving things half-unsaid. He indirectly let the Americans know Taliban’s military is being ‘modernised’. Do you get the point? It was one such ‘modernisation’ - stinger missiles - that proved a turning point in the jihad in the 1980s. Are the Taliban acquiring new weapons that are capable of inflicting more damage to US power? So far, Taliban have claimed to have brought down 4 drones, including one last week. Taliban know US troops can’t fight without air cover. Or, are they getting rockets that can set the US bases on fire? Time will tell. "

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                      • #12
                        Taliban ridicule US’s peace talks

                        Taliban ridicule US’s peace talks - Indian Punchline


                        I am left with no option but to take off my necktie and jacket and shoes and roll on the cold, wintry ground right here in downtown Brisbane. That is apparently the easiest way to gain grip over a seizure of uncontrollable laughter.


                        Remember, I’d repeatedly warned the Americans were playing with fire when they began the media campaign against Pakistan’s ISI and began pretending they have the superpower’s wherewithal to directly get through to the Taliban leadership and negotiate an Afghan settlement without Islamabad being in the loop? Presumptuousness has its limits. The scriptures warned: “Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap.” The US, for sure, is reaping a bitter harvest.
                        What else can one make of the taunting, mocking, defiant Taliban statement that Tayyab Agha never ever met the Americans? To be sure, someone out there in Afghanistan or Pakistan is making the CIA and the US state department and Pentagon and NATO and the Germans and the UN secretary-general’s special representative — the whole lot of them entrapped in the Hindu Kush — look very foolish. And the Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid had the gumption to ridicule the US’s ‘Afghan hands’ on an open line to a Pakistani newspaper in defiance of the US intelligence’s eavesdropping of any worthwhile telephone conversation in Pakistan! ZM also gave an Afghan-style warning — leaving things half-unsaid. He indirectly let the Americans know Taliban’s military is being ‘modernised’. Do you get the point? It was one such ‘modernisation’ - stinger missiles - that proved a turning point in the jihad in the 1980s. Are the Taliban acquiring new weapons that are capable of inflicting more damage to US power? So far, Taliban have claimed to have brought down 4 drones, including one last week. Taliban know US troops can’t fight without air cover. Or, are they getting rockets that can set the US bases on fire? Time will tell.
                        ZM reiterated that Taliban will oppose the US’ so-called ’strategic agreement’ with President Hamid Karzai on permanent American military bases in Afghanistan. Clearly, the US peace track - and Karzai’s peace track - has floundered. Pakistan has driven home the point, namely, that there can be no peace track that is not meeting with its concurrence and not accommodating its leadership. Worse still, the ‘Afghan hands’ in Washington, DC who fancied they knew all the needed to be known about the Pashtuns have been reduced to despair. Put simply, they don’t know anymore who is a Taliban — and who is not. What a predicament!
                        Now what? Go on fighting till 2024? In immediate terms, the upcoming Berlin conference faces the danger of being reduced to a replay of the farcical Bonn conference of December 2001 — without the Taliban.




                        Posted in Politics.
                        Tagged with NATO, Taliban, Tayyab Agha, Zabiullah Mujahid.
                        By M K Bhadrakumar – August 23, 2011

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