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  • Retroactive Post: Taliban admit to Iranian Support and Supplying

    Taliban claim weapons supplied by Iran - Telegraph


    A Taliban commander has credited Iranian-supplied weapons with successful operations against coalition forces in Afghanistan.

    By Kate Clark in Kabul 5:30PM BST 14 Sep 2008
    The comments by the commander, who would not be named but operates in the south east of the country where there has been a surge in Taliban attacks, were a rare admission of co-operation between elements within the Iranian regime and forces fighting British and American troops in Afghanistan.
    "There's a kind of landmine called a Dragon. Iran's sending it," he said. "It's directional and it causes heavy casualties.

    "We're ambushing the Americans and planting roadside bombs. We never let them relax."

    The commander, a veteran of 30 years who started fighting when the Soviet Union was occupying Afghanistan, said the Dragon had revolutionised the Taliban's ability to target Nato soldiers deployed in his area.

    "If you lay an ordinary mine, it will only cause minor damage to Humvees or one of their big tanks. But if you lay a Dragon, it will destroy it completely," he said.

    A "Dragon" is the local nickname for a type of weapon known internationally as an Explosively Formed Penetrator (EFP) or "shaped charge" and has been used with devastating effect in Iraq by Iranian-backed groups. It is shaped so that all the explosive force is concentrated in one direction - the target - rather than blasting in all directions and weakening its impact.

    A former mujahideen fighter who knows the Afghan arms market well and who asked to be known as Shahir said the Dragon mines came directly from Iran.
    Iran has denied these allegations, but Sir Sherard Cowper-Coles, the British Ambassador in Kabul, said the British Army, which is deployed in south-western Afghanistan, had intercepted consignments of weapons which they believe were "donated by a group within the Iranian state".

    The only other possible source, the arms expert said, would be Pakistan's Tribal Areas where a relatively sophisticated arms industry has grown up. "Until now," he said, "no-one in the Tribal Areas has been able to copy these mines. Both the metal and the explosives are different, very high quality and very effective, obviously not Chinese or Pakistani."

    He said there were two routes for Iranian weaponry getting to the Taliban. "There are people inside the state in Iran who donate weapons. There are also Iranian businessmen who sell them."

    Iranian-made weapons, he said, whether smuggled or donated, were the most popular among Taliban fighters and fetch premium prices on the open market. "A Kalashnikov rifle made in Iran costs two to three hundred dollars more than one made anywhere else" he said. "Its beauty lies in the fact that it can also fire grenades, up to 300 meters. This is something new and it's in great demand."

    Iran, a theocratic, Shia Muslim state should have little common cause with the Taliban, an extremist Sunni Muslim movement which massacred hundreds of Afghan Shia civilians and killed nine Iranian diplomats when it was in power.
    Only the worsening relations between Iran and America might explain the weapons supply.

    Sir Sherard said Iran was playing "a very dangerous game".
    He added: "I suspect some of their agencies genuinely don't know what others are up to. We've seen a limited supply of weapons by a group within the Iranian state, not necessarily with the knowledge of all other agencies of the Iranian state, sending some very dangerous weapons to the Taliban in the south."

    - Kate Clark's full report is on BBC2's Newsnight on Monday Sept 15 at 10.30pm, and the BBC World Service on Thursday Sept 18 at 10.10am

  • #2
    They use already Iranian weapons in FATA and north Waziristan. Those terrorists in FATA have close ties with Taliban from Wardag.

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    • #3
      again, I ask SO WHAT?

      What does it matter if aliens from outer space (District 9) fund them?

      Whats your point? WHy does the ANA get backed and funded by the US? WHy is Karzai a US puppet? Why was the dead Ahmad Wali a US puppet? Spanta too? Hamidi? Jan Khan? Daud Daud? Why is the US supported by 48 countries?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by AshrafGhaljay
        so what? LOL so what

        so many farsiwaan pimps pimping themselves in Kabul. shameless.
        It's ironic you're badmouthing other Ethnicities of Afghans for being "Farsiwan"; and accuse others of being Iranian, but say "So what" and happily take weapons and supplies from Farsiwan from Iran


        you live in the realm of confusion at the expense of other Muslims.

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        • #5
          so what? What is your point?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by AshrafGhaljay View Post
            again, I ask SO WHAT?
            You were posting an article that says the Taliban are completely independent; this flies in the face of all that

            that's "so what". You're a propagandist; the problem is the Taliban themselves have let it slip that they have other influences

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            • #7
              I post many articles.

              So WHAT? it is irrelevant to any guerrilla movement as to who or who does not support them.

              On your reasoning, the Vietnamese Resistance was invalid too because they were supported by China and Russia. Actually, on your reasoning, every resistance in history is invalid.

              Afghans fight because there is an occupation

              thats all

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              • #8
                it's not claiming EFP's are landmines.

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                • #9
                  again, I ask SO WHAT?

                  What does it matter if aliens from outer space (District 9) fund them?

                  Whats your point? WHy does the ANA get backed and funded by the US? WHy is Karzai a US puppet? Why was the dead Ahmad Wali a US puppet? Spanta too? Hamidi? Jan Khan? Daud Daud? Why is the US supported by 48 countries?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AshrafGhaljay View Post
                    again, I ask SO WHAT?


                    and Again I tell you: you were claiming that the Taliban are independent.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
                      and Again I tell you: you were claiming that the Taliban are independent.
                      I posted an article. Does it mean I agree with the article? In fact, I have stated many times that the rural Afghan has one thing on their mind, and thats the end of the foreign occupation. It matters not whether ET supports thm or Darth Vader, Frodo Baggins the Hobbit or Sauron, Harry Potter or Voldemort.

                      It matters not one bit to them.

                      I think there are several state actors supporting them to some degree. Maybe you have both Harry Potter and Voldemort supporting them at the same time.

                      I think. I do not know.
                      Last edited by Guest; 08-21-2011, 03:20 PM.

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                      • #12
                        you read Harry Potter?

                        hahahahhahahhahahhahahha

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by AshrafGhaljay View Post
                          again, I ask SO WHAT?

                          What does it matter if aliens from outer space (District 9) fund them?

                          Whats your point? WHy does the ANA get backed and funded by the US? WHy is Karzai a US puppet? Why was the dead Ahmad Wali a US puppet? Spanta too? Hamidi? Jan Khan? Daud Daud? Why is the US supported by 48 countries?
                          Just like a beggar does not have a say over his state of being, you lot does not have a say over the state of your affairs. Iran or Pakistan will feed and rule you, with weapon and $ comes influences and control…Mark my word. After US, Afghanistan would be controlled by a combination of Iran and Pakistan. Either that or it would be back at square one like it was in 90s—Saudi/Pakistan vs. Iran/Russia. Wake up before you wet your bet, ignorance should have a limit.

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                          • #14
                            This "So What?" question makes a resistance obsolete IF the help to them comes under certain conditions that go diametrical against the national interests of the Afghan people.

                            "So what?" is a stupid question and tries to sideline the fact highlights the presence of proxy wars on our expense.
                            The only constant is change.

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                            • #15
                              i don't know how many of you have actually been to afghanistan and seen how the people there live but as you all know it is a country strategically based and is a victim of invaders for centuries. the people basically have lived quiet and unassuming lives without electricity and mod cons, telephones etc. so for them to have to put up a resistence, they have to take what they can, where they can.
                              i don't support the taliban but it is spiteful to talk about afghanistan as a loser country, when the vast majority of it's people have absolutely nothing to do with the reasons for the invasions and have just been quietly living their lives and working hard to survive.
                              in most countries it is the minority to who do the most damage.

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