India's response during any nuclear attack will be heavy: IAF Chief

[Toramana]

"The United States of America uses its B-2 bombers in the year 2012 to launch conventional air-strikes to destroy Pakistani nuclear facilities in a bid to prevent the nukes from falling into the wrong hands. The extraordinary US action follows an unsuccessful Indian conventional attack on Pakistani nukes, and a Retaliatory Pakistani nuclear strike against Indian border forces. This sparks the disintegration and disappearance of Pakistan, and creation of an expanded Indian Confederation or Superstate."
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"India demands that Pakistan end the Islamic incursions. When Pakistan fails to respond, India moves into Azad Kashmir. Pakistan issues a nuclear ultimatum for Indian withdrawal from Azad Kashmir. The Chinese echo Pakistan's ultimatum and begin mobilising along India's eastern flank between Nepal and Bhutan to sever the Mizoram-Nagaland-Assam-Sikkim outpost of India, and threaten to use 'all available means to stop Indian aggression'. The US urges restraint, and despite other flashpoints, the US sends naval forces to the Bay of Bengal and warns China to stay out," the study speculates.

Fearing that Pakistan would use its nuclear weapons, India launches an unsuccessful conventional strike on the former's nuclear capabilities. Next, Pakistan launches nuclear strikes against Indian forces along their common border, driven by a "use it or lose it" rationale.

The US intelligence shows that Islamists in Pakistan are seizing the remaining Pakistani nuclear weapons. This goads the US to launch "a conventional strike on Pakistan's nuclear sites".

"The extraordinary US action is also motivated by a desire to preempt a full-scale nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India. The US strikes by deploying deep penetration warheads launched from B-2 bombers to destroy Pakistan's remaining nuclear forces. Faced with the reality of US-Indian cooperation, China backs off on the northeastern front," it adds.
"Total anarchy prevails in Pakistan. The Indian army moves in to restore order. As the country disintegrates, Pakistan's regions accede incrementally to India. The Sindhi, Baluch, and North West Frontier Province parliaments vote to join an Indian-led confederation. An Indian Confederation emerges. Isolated Punjab is compelled to join the confederation and merges with its Indian counterpart to form a greater Punjab province within the confederation," the scenario goes.

http://newsonterror.com/future.html

[Toramana]

Fun aside, war between India and Pakistan should be avoided at all costs. For that Pakistani leadership would have to show some maturity and Indian leadership large-heartedness. The resources should be diverted to improve the lot of the people and mutual trade and trade in the broader region.

But Indian enmity and war fever, jehadi ferver is so deep in the inhabitants of Punjab that it seems there is little hope sanity will prevail.

[DannyTannerzai]

Fun aside, war between India and Pakistan should be avoided at all costs. For that Pakistani leadership would have to show some maturity and Indian leadership large-heartedness. The resources should be diverted to improve the lot of the people and mutual trade and trade in the broader region.

But Indian enmity and war fever, jehadi ferver is so deep in the inhabitants of Punjab that it seems there is little hope sanity will prevail.

Yeah sanity coming from a Christian convert who ignores Muslim deaths while telling Muslims to cry about Christain deaths. Go back to your dung heap Miss Tora Mimaa Wannabe. I hope ISI captures you and gives you to Fazlullah.

[Toramana]

Yeah sanity coming from a Christian convert who ignores Muslim deaths while telling Muslims to cry about Christain deaths. Go back to your dung heap Miss Tora Mimaa Wannabe. I hope ISI captures you and gives you to Fazlullah.

Seems to be too high on Al-Qaueda, Taleban Hashish or alternatively on Mutalia Pakistan opuim...Typical fanatic not able to think out of religious context...

[Maulik]

indias poverty numbers have apparently risen since 2007 yet they have all this money for new military jazz. can they brag about that?

Poverty rate declines to 32 per cent: Plan panel

The latest data of the Planning Commission indicates that poverty in India has declined to 32 per cent in 2009-10 from 37.2 per cent five years ago.

The preliminary estimates are based on the formula suggested by the Tendulkar Committee for computing the number of poor in the country.

Planning Commission Deputy Chairman Montek Singh Ahluwalia on Wednesday told reporters that the 2009-10 data shows a decline in poverty from 37.2 per cent in 2004-05 to 32 per cent in 2009-10 as per preliminary data worked out by Planning Commission member Abhijit Sen.

The Tendulkar Committee had suggested that poverty should be estimated on the basis on consumption based on cost of living index instead of caloric intake. It said that the basket of goods should also include services like health and education.

The new poverty line, as suggested by the Tendulkar Committee, is different for rich and poor States and also different for rural and urban areas within a State. “These are preliminary data. Mr. Sen has worked on them. He has reported that the 2009-10 data show a decline in poverty from 37 per cent in 2004 to 32 per cent in 2009. I agree with him. I agree with his assessment,’’ Mr. Ahluwalia said.

He said that the National Sample Survey, which conducts large sample surveys every five years, will launch its next round in 2011-12.

Estimates of poverty are important because provision of cheap grains under the proposed Food Security law will be based on these numbers.

Mr. Ahluwalia raised doubts over the feasibility of achieving 10 per cent average economic expansion in the 12th Plan (2012-17) and said the next Plan would target GDP growth of 9 to 9.5 per cent in the next five years. “If you ask me personally, I think setting target of 10 per cent GDP growth as an average for 12th Plan is not feasible. It would be somewhere between 9 to 9.5 in next Plan period,’’ he said.

“Our assessment is that the international situation is full of uncertainty. I feel that if we are looking at a five year period (2012-17), we can do much better than we did in 11th Plan. I don't think that there should be much difficulty setting a target of 9 per cent,’’ he said.

A major area of focus would be on increasing agricultural productivity. “In the 10th Plan agricultural growth was around 2 per cent, in the 11th Plan it looks as if it will be 3 per cent. It won't be 4 per cent that we had targeted. My view would be that in the 12th Plan we must make sure that we can get to 4 per cent,’’ Mr. Ahluwalia said.

The Hindu : Business / Economy : Poverty rate declines from 37.2% to 32%

[Maulik]

Ironic..a rouge pic?

Reducing poverty: India well ahead of Pakistan: World Bank-IMF report

ISLAMABAD (April 09 2008): A new World Bank-IMF report said that India is well ahead of Pakistan in reducing poverty and all South Asian nations are required to do more to keep GDP growth rate at least at 7 percent to achieve millennium development goals (MDGs).

The report, which was launched here at WB office on Tuesday, warned that most countries in South Asia will fall short on the MDGs, a set of globally agreed development goals with due date of 2015.

Much of the world is set to cut extreme poverty in half by 2015, prospects are gravest for the goals of reducing child and maternal mortality, with serious shortfalls also likely in primary school completion, nutrition and sanitation goals. The Global Monitoring Report: MDGs and the Environment-agenda for inclusive and sustainable development stresses the link between environment and development and calls for urgent action on climate change. Pakistan loses around 4 percent of the GDP due to environmental degradation.

"India is doing well on poverty reduction because of its about 9 percent growth for the past some years. Poverty reduction has been less in Pakistan," said Zia Qureshi, the lead author of the report. However, he remained silent on the Pakistan's poverty estimates in which it was claimed that the number of people living below poverty line had been decreased from 34 percent to 24 percent.

Progress towards the MDGs differs drastically across countries, regions, and income groups, according to the report. While most of the poverty reduction between 1990 and 2004 took place in East Asia and Pacific, South Asia would contribute the most to global poverty reduction in the next decade.

However, South Asia will not reach the goal of halving malnutrition rates. In fact, South Asia has the world's highest incidence of child malnutrition. India's malnutrition rate is double than the African average.

The report opines that donors must expedite aid delivery in line with commitments. Sizeable shortfalls loom in the current official development assistance (ODA). Qureshi said ODA comprises just only 8 percent of the aid inflows coming into the developing countries.

Though the overall aid landscape is expanding, ODA-estimated at US $103.7 billion in 2007-has stalled. To meet the G-8 promises to increase aid by $50 billion by 2010, the ODA size must have expanded, said the report.

In 2007, gross concessional flows from multilateral development banks crossed $12 billion, a 10.3 percent increase driven by the International Development Association (IDA). While Asia continued to receive almost half of these flows, Africa received 45 percent in 2007, up from 37 percent in 2000.

The rise in food prices poses a challenge to developing countries. But at the same time, this provides an opportunity as well. The developing as well as the developed countries should liberalise agriculture trade. In the last three years, the world average wheat price has increased by 180 percent. Similar increases are also being witnessed in the prices of rice, other grains and pulses etc.

"This year action on the MDGs, I am particularly concerned about the risks of failing to meet the goal of reducing hunger and malnutrition, the forgotten MDG," said Robert B. Zoellick, the WB president.

As the report shows, reducing malnutrition has a multiplier effect, contributing to success in other MDGs including maternal health, infant mortality and education, he added in written statement.

The growth momentum will have to be sustained and broadened in developing countries in the face of financial turmoil. Developing countries' growth will ease to 6.7 percent, but persistent financial market turmoil and knock-on-effects on growth pose a significant downside risks.

The number of people living on under $1/day in the developing world declined by 278 million between 1990 and 2004, and a stunning 150 million in the last five years of that period.

[unknownprince]

Toramana, the fact that you are ok with US and India nuking Pakistan, a place where many innocent Muslims live shows more your detest for humanity due to your own failed secular ideals and hatred for Islam.

No wonder you are a person who supports the US war on Afghanistan which kills Afghans everyday. Is this what ANP has produced? Do you think anyone in Afghanistan will ever welcome ANP? NO This is why ANP is a big joke no one will ever take seriously.

You apparently have no regard whatsoever for Afghan life, so then how can one expect you to have regard for the lives of other Muslims.

People do not like Pakistan for their support of the US against the Afghan people.

No Muslim, no moral person will ever support any of the US or Indian wars against Muslim people.

I would never support India to attack Pakistan and kill the Muslims there, never, and I despise the whole state of Pakistan for their slavery to the US, and their selling of our blood to America. You on the other hand support both the war on Afghanistan, therefore, your words lack any credibility whatsoever.

[unknownprince]

Neither Pakistan or India is a friend to the Afghan people. Not one of them.

I will never support a non-Muslim or Muslim country to attack and kill Muslims or any other innocent people, ever.

[unknownprince]

This is what Maulik and Toramana also support , and YES, if you support the US war against Afghanistan, then you also support this below.

PressTV - US-led airstrike kills Afghan civilians

[sthek]

Toramana, the fact that you are ok with US and India nuking Pakistan, a place where many innocent Muslims live shows more your detest for humanity due to your own failed secular ideals and hatred for Islam.

No wonder you are a person who supports the US war on Afghanistan which kills Afghans everyday. Is this what ANP has produced? Do you think anyone in Afghanistan will ever welcome ANP? NO This is why ANP is a big joke no one will ever take seriously.

You apparently have no regard whatsoever for Afghan life, so then how can one expect you to have regard for the lives of other Muslims.

People do not like Pakistan for their support of the US against the Afghan people.

No Muslim, no moral person will ever support any of the US or Indian wars against Muslim people.

I would never support India to attack Pakistan and kill the Muslims there, never, and I despise the whole state of Pakistan for their slavery to the US, and their selling of our blood to America. You on the other hand support both the war on Afghanistan, therefore, your words lack any credibility whatsoever.

are you ok with pakistan attacking india which is also home to 130 million muslims

India has no first usage policy on nuclear weapons,it will only attack unless someone does attack first,and we hear lot from pakistani ministers we will nuke india. from all the wars india was never the aggressor except for supporting mukti bahini during 71 war.

anyway our government has no interest in war with pakistan.we have lot more to do with poverty and economy growth,it would be complete disaster to go direct war with pakistan

[Maulik]

This is what Maulik and Toramana also support , and YES, if you support the US war against Afghanistan, then you also support this below.

PressTV - US-led airstrike kills Afghan civilians

just ur rant? lol..quote a single post of mine where i supported US attack on afghanistan...Dont spread propoganda based on lies. ...Keep ur hatred aside ..

[unknownprince]

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are you ok with pakistan attacking india which is also home to 130 million muslims

No. I will never support Pakistan attacking India, and I do not support Pakistan. However, you thinking that Muslims should support India to attack Pakistan where there are many innocent people living is ridiculous. Killing of innocent civilians can never be tolerated.

anyway our government has no interest in war with pakistan.we have lot more to do with poverty and economy growth,it would be complete disaster to go direct war with pakistan

But you are posting here expecting Afghans/Pashtuns to support India war against Muslim people. It will never happen. Afghans despise Pakistan, but they despise India just as equally. India and Pakistan should stop interfering in Afghanistan, and leave Afghans alone just as the US should get the hell out.

Don't ever think Afghans will be happy if other innocent people in the world are attacked. Afghans understand the history of the world. They understand the Kufar Hitler as well as the terrorist attack against Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Don't confuse hatred of the Pakistan state with hatred for Muslims living in Pakistan or any other country. It is not the same.

[faye]

oxford poverty and human development commission reckons poverty level in india is 55%.

[sthek]

[QUOTE=AshrafGhaljay;493259]

No. I will never support Pakistan attacking India, and I do not support Pakistan. However, you thinking that Muslims should support India to attack Pakistan where there are many innocent people living is ridiculous. Killing of innocent civilians can never be tolerated.

But you are posting here expecting Afghans/Pashtuns to support India war against Muslim people. It will never happen. Afghans despise Pakistan, but they despise India just as equally. India and Pakistan should stop interfering in Afghanistan, and leave Afghans alone just as the US should get the hell out.

Don't ever think Afghans will be happy if other innocent people in the world are attacked. Afghans understand the history of the world. They understand the Kufar Hitler as well as the terrorist attack against Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Don't confuse hatred of the Pakistan state with hatred for Muslims living in Pakistan or any other country. It is not the same.

check my posts again cold start doctrine is just some internet myth between fanboys,any war with pakistan would bring disaster to indian economy,with all economic sanctions from rest of the world, india would be at losing end not pakistan. since ur good with history check from all previous wars it's pakistani generals like Ayub khan in 65 to get way from internal threat or musharaff in 99 to coup d defeat from nawaz started war agains't India.

Also i don't expect afghans to help india in case of war nor did i ask you check all my posts,all we want his stability in afghanistan ,not pakistan dictating terms,it could send easily send brainwashed proxy terrorists. .there nothing india can about it just hoping for good

Anyway i don't want to continue this discussion.

Best of luck to afghanistan on it's progress

[Master Khan]

are you ok with pakistan attacking india which is also home to 130 million muslims

India has no first usage policy on nuclear weapons,it will only attack unless someone does attack first,and we hear lot from pakistani ministers we will nuke india. from all the wars india was never the aggressor except for supporting mukti bahini during 71 war.

anyway our government has no interest in war with pakistan.we have lot more to do with poverty and economy growth,it would be complete disaster to go direct war with pakistan

Pakistan is Already a disaster, India will be Stupid to go to war with country which already destroyed by its own people.