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    KANDAHARCITY (PAN): The southern province of Kandahar needs more forces to guard its frontiers with Zabul and Pakistan, a border police commander said on Thursday.
    The border police force was responsible for manning the country's frontiers and preventing the movement of terrorists and drug smugglers, said Col. Tafsir Khan Khogyani.
    Over the past few weeks, border police had detained 35 suspected militants and drug smugglers and handed them over to the authorities concerned, he told journalists at the Governor's House.
    During the operations, 3,000 kilograms of chemicals, 5,000 kg of explosives, 18 Ak-47 assault rifles, 10 walkie-talkies, 193 landmines, 14 suicide vests, 170 kg of heroin, 840 kg of hashish and eight cars were seized.
    The border police force had been able to repulse many militant attacks in Kandahar and Zabul provinces, inflicting casualties on the fighters. Most of police fatalities resulted from roadside bombings, not from clashes with the insurgents, the commander explained.
    Khogyani said they needed additional men to guard the 63-kilometre border between the Registan district of Kandahar and Pakistan. At the moment, the frontier remains unmanned.

    Kandahar needs more border guards | Pajhwok Afghan News
    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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    Afghanistan needs to be free from a foreign occupation, and any Afghan who is against the freedom from a foreign occupation, and assists the foreign occupation is guilty of high treason and sedition to the Islamic Emirate which was founded by the former Amir Al-Mumineen Ahmad Shah Abdali .

    Unless the Afghan Army is active in freeing the country from a foreign occupation, it serves no purpose to Afghanistan, except to be a failed tool of the foreign aggression.

    Kandahar, as well as all over Afghan cities needs to be free from the foreign occupation. All nations in the world have an inalienable right to the freedom of their nation from both foreign aggression, occupation, and the lackeys which serve them.
    Last edited by Guest; 08-05-2011, 01:21 AM.

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    • #3
      Makes sense talibs are gonna come after Kandahar the hardest, ANA will need a lot if numbers guarding this place..if US is serious about empowering ANA they need to provide these guys with some heavy artillery, MRLS, M110's it's hard to be on the offensive against these guys but the biggest disadvantage guerrilla warriors have is they can never mount a coordinated and effective offensive unless you lack a deterrent in form of organized cavalry backed by sufficient battlefield mid-damage range munitions

      So while numbers are good they need to get supplemented ASAP by mechanized artillery and possibly those Mi-17s equipped with atleast a God damn pod
      It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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      • #4
        The Taliban already control the majority of Afghanistan, including Kandahar.

        ^Well, Afghans resent the US and their Kabul puppets, so that will never happen.

        The people oppose the ANA because it represents the Kabul government which is not accepted by Afghans, and people support the Taliban and other opposition elements because they oppose the US occupation and aggression hand in hand with the Kabul government. These Afghans may not necessarily agree with the Taliban ideology, but they agree with the opposition to the US occupation and the Kabul gov.
        Last edited by Guest; 08-05-2011, 06:39 AM.

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        • #5
          There is a saying:

          ''If you control Kandahar, you control Afghanistan''.
          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
            There is a saying:

            ''If you control Kandahar, you control Afghanistan''.

            I think that saying is old now.

            I would say, if you have the backing of the tribes of Greater Paktia/Junubi (Khost, Paktia and Paktika), you control Afghanistan.
            The only constant is change.

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            • #7
              Assalam-Alaikum Mostafa, I hope you are in good health. Ramadan Mubarak.

              Originally posted by Mostafa1919 View Post
              I think that saying is old now.

              I would say, if you have the backing of the tribes of Greater Paktia/Junubi (Khost, Paktia and Paktika), you control Afghanistan.
              That's probably true. After all, a Pashtun is a Pashtun. Someone who is arguably the most hospitable person in the world, but absolutely despises foreign establishment in his land. Whether it be a Pashtun from Swat or Khost, they all have the same traits in common, since they are the same people. The British feared Pashtuns back in the 1800's and so they attempted to divide us.

              Oh, I remember reading that quote in this article.

              It states:
              It has often been said that whoever controls Kandahar controls Afghanistan.


              Kandahar is the heartland of the country's largest ethnic group, the Pashtuns. It is also the spiritual home of the Taliban - and the birthplace of President Hamid Karzai.

              Kandahar city was founded by Alexander the Great in the 4th Century, although the region around it contains the remains of human settlements believed to be about 7,000 years old.

              The area's strategic importance and significance as a trade route mean it has been fought over for many centuries.
              BBC News - Kandahar: Afghanistan's turbulent province

              I believe it has to do with Kandahar's strategic location, and it's brave history of warriors. It was Afghanistan's first capital, and according to the Taliban, it still is Afghanistan's capital. If you recall, during the Taliban regime, Kandahar served as their de-facto capital.
              Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

              A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

              For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


              The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

              -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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              • #8
                Walekum salam and Ramadan Mubarak to you, too!

                The things you mentioned are undisputibly true.

                Kandahar´s importance in Afghanistan´s history is undeniable but I guess the cultural centre of Pashtun identity and heritage as shifted north-eastwards towards Jalalabad and Peshawar.

                And the Greater Kandahar area (Kandahar, Helmand, Nimroz, Uruzgan) do not make up the majority of the Pashtun population inside Afghhanistan.

                Since tribal systems with standing arbakeys, a functioning tribal system has been lost in the Greater Kandahar area where tribal elders were sidelined during the last 30 years of war by strongmen, the Pashtun tribal heritage that still functions is in the Greater Paktia area.

                To my mind the power base of Pashtuns has shifted from a Durrani/Abdali-led establishment that made Afghanistan come into existence to a Ghaljay-and-Karlanri-manned mindset that keeps Afghanistan what it is.

                I would never support a division between Pashtuns in general. My comment was just directed towards a situation that I have witnessed so far.

                Even within the Taliban movement this kind of a division can be seen.
                The only constant is change.

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                • #9
                  "arbakeys" , I just googled this word, does it mean 'private army'?
                  په پښتو ژبه ټایپ کول تاسو غواري؟ بيا داسې وکړي چې
                  دلته وهي

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AshrafGhaljay View Post
                    The Taliban already control the majority of Afghanistan, including Kandahar.

                    ^Well, Afghans resent the US and their Kabul puppets, so that will never happen.

                    The people oppose the ANA because it represents the Kabul government which is not accepted by Afghans, and people support the Taliban and other opposition elements because they oppose the US occupation and aggression hand in hand with the Kabul government. These Afghans may not necessarily agree with the Taliban ideology, but they agree with the opposition to the US occupation and the Kabul gov.
                    this indecisiveness is the root cause of instability in Afghanistan, either the whole country should support ANA or they should jus back the talibs but for their part the taliban havent made any overtures to other ethnicities and at this point where everything is sort of going their way they would be even less inclined to negotiate with other ethnicities

                    Taliban dont command the same power they had a decade ago whereas US has given teeth to the minority militia aka ANA..They are gonna be at each other's throats when the NATO isnt there
                    It's enough that I know, Our time had a home, In your heart..Was a place..But the glass always breaks..

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SiiNii View Post
                      "arbakeys" , I just googled this word, does it mean 'private army'?
                      no

                      arbakay is actually a name for a tribal army which is only called upon in the times of occupation of the country and other major disasters.

                      this is how it goes.

                      lets say someone invades the territory of the country the tribal elders will do a jirga(tribal meeting)they will form the arbakai which will consist of youngsters from 15 to 25 years old as soldiers and in the 30s as commanders and elders as high commanders who will be overseeing everything.
                      using the word arbakai for militias working for foreign invaders or other illegimite reasons is not arbakai but some criminals.
                      arbakai works as a ppolice and army in which the tribal elders are in charge.

                      the call to these arbakai soldiers is done with the sound of the drum,the drummer will go through the vilage/city beating the drum and people will come out and follow.

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                      • #12
                        First you cant do nothing in Afghanistan unless you have the respect of the tribes. You cant have respect of the tribes unless you recognize their autonomy. If you want to force your will on the people, You can put a million troops in the country and still without an air force the million troops are useless. So the Americans have to first build an Air force, and then make a million man army. To make a million man army, you have to get the people addicted to some substance to make the mind incoherent other wise no one will join this million man army. Will an army full of addicts do what you say, probably not.
                        Mission impossible

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