Was Jinnah a Sahabi?

[Master Khan]

so much hates against Jinnah on this forum lol.

[Da_Kunar_Ghro]

when will jinnah saib be laid to rest?

His rotten corpse pollutes this forum!

:-p

lol

[salam]

who knows

I think we need to go through widespread social reengineering

hmmm re engineering proposed and followed by the UNO ?

[ScimitarXEdge]

NWO you mean?

[salam]

NWO you mean?

‪UNO Social Engineering Program.flv‬‏ - YouTube

[tor_khan]

^ he was not a saint or a holy man, do you wana now how jinnahs grand children live in pakistan? they live in poverty. He is respected as a founder of pakistan, but he is not treated as a saint or anything

Shehbaz thanked you for this post, but occasionally it helps to get with the facts and not the fiction. The Wadias (Bombay Dyeing etc.) in Mumbai are where you will find Jinnah's grandchildren and great grandchildren. They are Indian citizens.

The problem with having a post thanked like this is that both of you begin to believe in the myths that are part of the Pakistan construct.

Jinnah is eulogised to the point of sainthood in Pakistan and this is why having a serious debate on his actions or beliefs cannot happen inside the country. In the media this is censored and in private conversations you risk being called a traitor. I tried to have this very same conversation in Pakistan just a week or so back at a rather sophisticated dinner party. By the end of the evening one of the guests remarked that I had been brainwashed by Indian agents in Afghanistan. That is how far some will go towards protecting the myth.

[KingKhan]

But if Jinnahs offsprings lives in Mumbai, India, why would the Prophet (PBUH) come to his dream to command him to create in islamic nation.

Jinnah's posters are all over KP, and the rest of Pakistan but how come his own family not live in his country?

[graveyardofempires]

But if Jinnahs offsprings lives in Mumbai, India, why would the Prophet (PBUH) come to his dream to command him to create in islamic nation.

Jinnah's posters are all over KP, and the rest of Pakistan but how come his own family not live in his country?

his pictures are all over the place even on the damn money,in jalalabad and Kandahar.

[Bengal_Tiger]

Pakistani nationalists here are adopting the tactic of downplaying Jinnah here on this forum. The truth is this idiot, trickster and traitor is venerated in Pakistan.

As for his grandchildren, I would not bring them in to it because everything we say has an effect on us, and can even bring "lanat" (curse), so there is no need to gratuitously mention his grandchildren but he himself and the fact that he like:

- Agha Khan

- Sir Frank Messervy, first Pakistan army chief.

- Douglas Gracey, second Pakistan army chief.

- Sir Francis Mudie, first governor of Pakistani Punjab

were all British agents.

However I am sure we will have some Shehbaz Khan type "Pathan" soon telling us that:

"Frank Messervy was a wali of Allah, Douglas Gracey was a Momin, and Sir Francis Mudie used to have dreams of Hadhrat Abu Bakr visiting him, and all three, Frank, Douglas and Francis (very Muslim names) used to shout the famous slogan ' Pakistan, kya matlab hai? La ilaha ill Allah'" (What is the purpose of Pakistan? There is no deity but Allah i.e. Pakistan's purpose is Islam).


Pakistani, Francis Mudie first governor of Punjab.



Pakistani, Frank Messervy, first head of the Pakistan army.



Grandson of a Hindu, British-educated, British suit wearing "founder of Pakistan", Ali Jinnah with fellow British agent.







Traitor Jinnah with Sir Douglas Gracey.

Shehbaz Khan type "Pathan": "Douglas and Frank's last words on their deathbed were "Pakistan kya matlab hai?, La ilaha illa Allah" before they were buried according to Church of England funeral rites.

[Karachi]

Shehbaz thanked you for this post, but occasionally it helps to get with the facts and not the fiction. The Wadias (Bombay Dyeing etc.) in Mumbai are where you will find Jinnah's grandchildren and great grandchildren. They are Indian citizens.

The problem with having a post thanked like this is that both of you begin to believe in the myths that are part of the Pakistan construct.

Jinnah is eulogised to the point of sainthood in Pakistan and this is why having a serious debate on his actions or beliefs cannot happen inside the country. In the media this is censored and in private conversations you risk being called a traitor. I tried to have this very same conversation in Pakistan just a week or so back at a rather sophisticated dinner party. By the end of the evening one of the guests remarked that I had been brainwashed by Indian agents in Afghanistan. That is how far some will go towards protecting the myth.

give me proof that he is treated as a saint? there is a difference between respecting somebody and treating him like some religious saint, i have never seen the second

also i was talking about Aslam Jinnah who lives in Karachi, i dont know about his family in India

‪aslam jinnah (grandson of mohd. ali jinnah)‬‏ - YouTube[/URL]

[graveyardofempires]

^
karachey
this guy has been propagated and injected in people's heads since childhood.
on ptv they even show his sayings "quid e azam ne farmaya" as if he also has ahadeeth.
there is one which says "quid e azam ne farmaya : Aaj ka kaam kal ko math choro" while in fact is what our Prophet (pbuh) said not some british drunk agent.

[Da_Kunar_Ghro]

LOL

Are you that brainwashed by Pakistan that you believe Allah came to Jinnah in a dream?

Allah would rather come to Batman in a dream. Atleast he fights crime,
Martin Luther King Jr. had a dream, not Jinnah.

And what the hell type of a name is Jinnah anyway?

[Da_Kunar_Ghro]

LOL

Graveyard, I have heard worse bull**** on PTV.

"Poore Karachi mein jab raat ko andhera hota tha, to sirf ek hi batti jalti thi jo door se nazar aati thi, woh Quaid-e Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah ka noor tha."

OMG this is simply rediculous.

[Da_Kunar_Ghro]

People even add R.A after his name. As you say in Urdu, "Ek had hoti hai na yaar."

Anyway, Jinnah = jinai, jinakai, junai, jilkai, injilai - whatever the spelling, they all mean the same thing. GIRL!

[Bengal_Tiger]

The British Empire collapsed and the American empire is now collapsing. Pakistan was created and sustained by Anglo-Saxon powers. The same Anglo-Saxon powers who fought Pakhtuns and hate them, biggest ever defeat in military history was extermination of a British force in 1841 in Afghanistan, some say an army of 16,000 wiped out in one single day.

So with the demise of these two Anglo-Saxon powers so will their illegitimate child Pakistan go, with its "history" of 60 years.

Even Coca-cola has been around longer.

The collapse of Pakistan will be a victory for the entire Muslim ummah as - like Israel - it was created to be a source of instability and bloodshed, two words which it is now synoymous with in the eyes of people the world over.

The Jinnah myth too will go as it is state-sponsored and is merely a part of a wider Pakistani national mythology, and Jinnah will be seen by Muslims all over the world fo the charlatan and traitor that he really was.

May Allah bless Yaggi for educating people on the world wide web on a website with readers from across the globe with thousands of visitors every day, on the true nature of "Gaddar i Azam" (the great traitor), Ali Jinnah.