China's military flexes its muscle

[KingKhan]

^^^^

The Chinese are attacking the Uighar people, who are demanding their own country. Not to mention Tibet.

[Leonine]

is this what u do ashraf when u r defeated? lol

[randolph85]

he says the chinese havent attacked any muslim countries but forgets that the chinese are in their "american 19th century" mode where they are ethnically cleansing all the natives, especially the muslims. this is beside the massacres that killed millions of muslims in the past.

[KingKhan]

^^^

No one knows for sure the extent of damage being done to Uighar Muslims, as their is no freedom in China.

[randolph85]

they arent as large as they used to be. the chinese killed 10 million muslims in the late 19th century. today, members of muslim ethnic groups go missing without a trace. the kaffir have no problem killing their own han chinese, so imagine what they do to the non han muslims. china is like bagram for muslims x1000

[KingKhan]

^^^^

You can't even compare Bagram to what the Chinese do. What happens in Bagram is documented (Good and Bad), but in China, you have no darn clue what happens.

[MostafaM]

when you see them attack and occupy another country, please tell me.

I go by what I see, not by a possibility, if that is what you think that you wouldn't mind Afghanistan becoming a US state, then you can go and shove a nice Chines ching chang foot up your ass.

I dont need their fffffikkking friendship . I dont need to hold hands with them

Occupation of Tibet and the destruction of Tibetan religion and heritage?

Border dispute and war with Vietnam?

Conflict with Taiwan?

Direct involvement in the Vietnam and Korean Wars?


You seem to be able to handle a computer. Why don´t you use it to educate yourself instead of being a very blunt propagandist for a latent Paki-occupation of Afghanistan via Taliban?
When I read your comments, I understand what my history teacher meant when he was refering to the ability to extract, understand and interprete information out of an ocean of sources. I have to agree with him that intellect is needed for that and intellect comes with reading books.

You have to agree that everyone here is atleast a couple of years older than you, a little more well-read than you and definitly more logical than you.
And you have to agree that your posts unnerve 95% of the readers here.

Just take this as an advise and not as a personal attack.
Read, reflect and understand!

[Bengal_Tiger]

Occupation of Tibet and the destruction of Tibetan religion and heritage?

Much more complicated than the western propaganda against China would have us believe. Yes, Beijing has been territorially expansionist but so has Tibet.

The Tibetans were defeated by a joint Muslim-Han army in 1932, and the Tibetans were armed and supported by the British to weaken China, the same British who carried out the opium wars against the Chinese.

The Dalai Lama is no saint and Tibet was a feudal theocracy where many normal Tibetans were serfs. The PRC (People's Republic of China) abolished slavery and gives Tibetan certain preferential treatment e.g. no restriction on how many children they can have.

Whereas the British had been aiding the Tibetans, the Indians continued from their British predecessors with this policy, in the same way the Pakistanis continued with their policy of fighting FATA Pakhtuns e.g. Faqir Ipi, both states continuing from their previous British overlords who had created their two states (India and Pakistan).

The British had invaded Tibet in 1903, which was then under Beijing rule.


92% of the population remain ethnic Tibetan with the head of the region being an ethnic Tibetan.

Tibetan Buddhist radicals have been involved in anti-Muslim activity against Hui Muslims in the province.

Border dispute and war with Vietnam?

A dispute is a dispute, but the PRC never launched a full-scale invasion of Vietnam in the way that Vietnam invaded Cambodia and installed a pro-Vietnamese regime. Nor did the PRC attempt to make Vietnam a satellite state of the PRC in the way the Soviets did with Poland or other countries such as the Czech republic or Hungary (which they invaded in 1956).

China is a nuclear power, and generally seeks to cultivate good relations with Vietnam. The Vietnamese are tough fighters there and are no walk over and can defend themselves. Both Vietnam and China are Bangladeshi allies.

Conflict with Taiwan?

Taiwan was a Chinese province to which the nationalist government prior to the communists retreated to and made their base. It is akin to Dostum making a province of Afghanistan his own state and declaring it as "The Republic of Afghanistan", Kabul would never recognize it.

China has said that Taiwan can return to Beijing's rule, with complete autonomy such as in Hong Kong.

The two are strong trading partners and also involved in some military activities. The current Taipei government is very pro-China.

By the way the government of Taiwan which theoratically considers itself as the official government of China technically considers Mongolia as part of China whereas the PRC does not.

The borders of China, according to Taiwan, include parts of Afghanistan, land which the PRC does not claim.



True borders of China according to the Republic of China (ROC) a.k.a. Taiwan which includes Tibet, Mongolia and parts of Afghanistan.

Direct involvement in the Vietnam and Korean Wars?

China is right next to Vietnam unlike the USA or France which are oceans away from it. China helped the Vietcong to conquer South Vietnam as they were fellow communists, it has never sought to install a pro-Beijing government in Vietnam since then. The US had direct American ground forces on a state right next to China and carpet bombed Vietnam and Laos in war crimes.

China defended what it considered as a fellow communist government under attack against a combined international military coalition headed by the US, China held its own. (South Korea and Bangladesh are close allies, by the way, our commandos train with their elite navy seals who are better than the American navy seals, and Samsung is thinking of a $1 billion investment).



As for Beijing's relation with its Muslim minorities, it has excellent relations with the Hui (ethnic Han of Islamic faith) who are loyal to China, but more problematic relations with Turkic Uighurs (who have also targeted other Muslims and even other Turkic Muslims in their last Urumchi uprising) who are being used by the west against China. I speak to a Uighur Muslim from Kashgar by email, so things are not as bad as propagandists make them out to be.

China is an ally of the People's Republic of Bangladesh and is our friend, any attack on China is an attack on Bangladesh and we respect and appreciate the contributions of China to the Muslim world including its upgrading of ties with Muslim Indonesia, business with the Arab world, support of Muslim countries against American aggression and so forth.







Head of government of the People's Republic of Bangladesh, Hasina Wajid in Beijing.



Hasina Wajid with Chinese official in Dhaka, Islamic writing at the top of the picture.



Chinese and Bangladeshi government officials in New York, the foreign minister of the People's Republic of Bangladesh, Dr Dipu Moni (female with glasses) is on the right.

[graveyardofempires]

randolph

why do you care about muslims dying in other countries and justify the ones happening in your own country?

[unknownprince]

randolph

why do you care about muslims dying in other countries and justify the ones happening in your own country?

Notice that the ones who are against China (on basis of speculation) are also the ones spitting the BS that a 16 year old boy who loses his family to US airstrikes/night raids is is now a Pakistani proxy because he is opposed to the US occupation. Look how stupid they are. Furthermore, they provide no evidence to back up their claims.

He will tell you that he is against both NATO and the Taliban ( plus all other Afghans fighting), but he will then tell you that it is best to stop resisting, and it would be wise to stop fighting, and then US will leave.

He will then tell you that Taliban are proxies, and say this without evidence, and then act as if Taliban fights for Pakistan.

He tries to characterize you and I as idiots, but this retard is desperately trying to deny natural Afghan resistance to foreigners.

[unknownprince]

[QUOTE=Mostafa1919;490026]

Occupation of Tibet and the destruction of Tibetan religion and heritage?

Tibet is part of mainland China. It is an internal problem, not external. No state wants to break a part.

Border dispute and war with Vietnam?

I am not defending China, but don't all states have border disputes? Have they invaded Vietnam?

Conflict with Taiwan?

They consider it a part of mainland China. Plus, there has been as usual, a lot of interference by the US.

Direct involvement in the Vietnam and Korean Wars?

So? They supported the people against the US aggression. Whats your point? No nation wants an aggressor near them, and will do everything possible to ensure the end and defeat of that aggressor.

You seem to be able to handle a computer. Why don´t you use it to educate yourself instead of being a very blunt propagandist for a latent Paki-occupation of Afghanistan via Taliban?

Like I have said to all those before, provide me evidence that the Taliban fight and die for Pakistan. Show me with evidence that a bunch of Pakistanis dressed up as Pashtuns, spoke Pashto, and ruled Afghanistan for 4 years. Show me that the Taliban's objectives are geared only to the tune of Paksitan's foreign policy. Prove to me that they do not fight for Afghanistan.

Please provide your sources and evidence for the wild claims you make.

Also, are their supporters also serving Pakistan. Are these people Pakistanis?

US report shows Taliban support in Afghanistan, blames Karzai | America-Canada | World Bulletin

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories...upport_070319/

Taliban Getting Stronger, As US Public Support for Afghanistan War Collapses | Informed Comment

When I read your comments, I understand what my history teacher meant when he was refering to the ability to extract, understand and interprete information out of an ocean of sources. I have to agree with him that intellect is needed for that and intellect comes with reading books.

But you have so far provided no evidence whatsoever that the Taliban are fighting for Pakistan, that they do not care for the national integrity of Afghanistan. please show me that they are not Pashtuns. Please also shed light on the support they have in Afghanistan. Are these people Paksitanis too?

When I read your comments, I see no substance in them at all. All the same resistance denying arguments that make no logical sense whatsoever.

So you expect us to believe that Afghans do not fight foreign occupation? You expect us to believe the illogical.

You have to agree that everyone here is atleast a couple of years older than you, a little more well-read than you and definitly more logical than you.

I may go off rants sometimes, but don't be fooled, if you want, you can debate me, and we will see you speaks logic and who does not.

And you have to agree that your posts unnerve 95% of the readers here.

No, my posts unnerve a few frustrated people who have been desperately trying to spin a line which alludes all forms of Afghan opposition to the US occupation as Pakistani centric- what an insult to Afghan people and honor .

Really, how desperate will they get?
They are in a minority, and their BS is falling on death ears.

You really expect people to believe that Afghans do not fight foreign occupation? I mean, isn't that what they are saying? and what you are saying?

[randolph85]

randolph

why do you care about muslims dying in other countries and justify the ones happening in your own country?

because i am anti taliban, that means i am pro west? u cant find anything here that supports any claim of me being pro west. grave, i know u have some mental capacity. dont stoop to ashrafs level. its not good company.

so if u were anti rabbani, would that of made u pro russian?