'Hitler (Very) Famous Amongst Afghans'

[آريا]

Hitler and Stalin were both criminals.

[graveyardofempires]

I don't need Afghanistan to be powerfull I just want that al the extremist and the warlords that are in Afghnistan would die and Stalin had a good methode he made them work there they where building railroads in Syberia. Stalin didn't look at peopel color he didn't say that he or his russian peopel are supirior to other peopel in the world, he did't kill whitout a reason he just killed the state enemys. Hitler killed peopel only becuase of there religion and how they looked like. That's a big difrence.

stalin killed and oppressed christians and hitler killed and oppressed jews.

you dont make sense.

please think before you write

[ScimitarXEdge]

Correction Stalin killed and oppressed Christians AND Muslims....he went into Muslim areas under Soviet Occupation and murdered Muslims and Islamic Scholars and sent Muslims to Siberia.

[AFG21]

he killed those peopel becuase they where against his regime not becuase they where christiian or muslim. Taliban where alos killing peopel that where against them but nobody sees that as bad thing

[یاسمینه]

I don't need Afghanistan to be powerfull I just want that al the extremist and the warlords that are in Afghnistan would die and Stalin had a good methode he made them work there they where building railroads in Syberia. Stalin didn't look at peopel color he didn't say that he or his russian peopel are supirior to other peopel in the world, he did't kill whitout a reason he just killed the state enemys. Hitler killed peopel only becuase of there religion and how they looked like. That's a big difrence.

First, please read about mass deportations (also Muslims) and resettlements of ordinary people, not state's enemies.

Second - you are right saying that Stalin didnt look at people color or nationality. He didn not reckon with the people at all!

Third - do you really think that Transsyberian Railway and other local railways can simple justify all deportations of innocently condemned people? Have you heard that many of them have been rehabilitated in 90's ?

Fourth - Have you ever heard about something called Stalinist crime?

Fifth - Please think twice before you write again about something which you have no idea.

Last one - please don't argue with me about history of my country if you are not an expert on, about history of my family, about things you have never experienced.
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[ScimitarXEdge]

he killed those peopel becuase they where against his regime not becuase they where christiian or muslim. Taliban where alos killing peopel that where against them but nobody sees that as bad thing

they were deemed against his regime because they were christian or Muslim

Most logical people see Taliban as bad, but they didnt kill people because of their religion, maybe sect, but not religion.

[randolph85]

there was a term stalin used for western liberals who defended the soviet union and communism, it was "useful idiot"

[unknownprince]

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First, please read about mass deportations (also Muslims) and resettlements of ordinary people, not state's enemies.

Stalin himself was of a Muslim background, although he did not practice any religion. At the same time, the characterizations of such people like Hitler and Stalin are given to us by US/Western history texts. The thoughts we have of them are reinforced by propaganda films.

Second - you are right saying that Stalin didnt look at people color or nationality. He didn not reckon with the people at all!

while he killed many people who did not agree with him, the perception of him being "monstrous" is fed to us by US/Western texts.

Third - do you really think that Transsyberian Railway and other local railways can simple justify all deportations of innocently condemned people?

I would fully support the deportations of "Americans" out of Amrica (Amrid Khan) by whatever method whether it be putting them on ships, plains, or trains.

Have you heard that many of them have been rehabilitated in 90's ?

Again, another Western concept that is repeated to such an extent that one is supposed to accept it as truth.

The truth is both the British, Russians and the Americans were the biggest criminals of world war 2.

Fourth - Have you ever heard about something called Stalinist crime?

Have you ever heard of something called the American crimes?

Fifth - Please think twice before you write again about something which you have no idea.

Last one - please don't argue with me about history of my country if you are not an expert on, about history of my family, about things you have never experienced.
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From an Afghan perspective, a German victory in World War 2 would have assured Afghanistan and the rest of the Muslim world a better scenario from the one Muslims have finally gotten out of.

Now, again, I am by no means saying that Hitler and Nazi Germany were great, but given the fact America continues to wage wars against the Afghan people and the Iraqi people, and specifically against Muslims via intervention and through support for tyrants,

a German victory would have been better. Germany had good relations with both Turkey and Afghanistan. Why should Afghans care about what Germans would have done to other Europeans or say Anglo-Saxon Americans? They do not care for Afghan people, but instead are waging a failed war of aggression against the Afghan people.

[randolph85]

what hitler did to europe was great, they had it coming. to think nazi germany would of been better for muslims is hilarious though. u do realize that hitler and his italian allies occupied muslim nations too, right?

stalin was a murderous piece of **** as well. even the soviet union distanced themselves from stalins legacy after he died.

dont get caught up westerners fighting each other and choosing sides. because both sides hate us equally and are both ****in evil.

its like saying horse **** is better for us than dog ****. in the end, they are both ****.

[randolph85]

the afghan communists also talked well and good about american aggression....

all while ignoring the russian genocide in their own country.

[unknownprince]

what hitler did to europe was great, they had it coming. to think nazi germany would of been better for muslims is hilarious though. u do realize that hitler and his italian allies occupied muslim nations too, right?

stalin was a murderous piece of **** as well. even the soviet union distanced themselves from stalins legacy after he died.

dont get caught up westerners fighting each other and choosing sides. because both sides hate us equally and are both ****in evil.

its like saying horse **** is better for us than dog ****. in the end, they are both ****.

Oh, yes it is good when western nations fight each other. Please remember that Germany was trying to separate themselves from Europe, culturally, by creating this myth of being Aryans.

Italy was an ally of convenience. I am sure they would have been discarded from the get go.

I am not saying Germany was great for all Muslims, but I am sure they would not have expected to have oil for free.

Hitler also said that Islam was a great religion. There was also a Muslim Bosnian SS division.

Now, Im not saying that Germany would have been great, but I think the situation for Muslims would have been better.

From an Afghan perspective, I am sure today Afghanistan would have had a lot of technology to prevent aggressors from starting failed wars.

[randolph85]

Italy was a ally of convenience. I am sure they would have been discarded from the get go.

I am not saying Germany was great for all Muslims, but I am sure they would not have expected to have oil for free.

Hitler also said that Islam was a great religion. There was also a Muslim Bosnian SS division.

Now, Im not saying that Germany would have been great, but I think the situation for Muslims would have been better.

From an Afghan perspective, I am sure today Afghanistan would have had a lot of technology to prevent aggressors from starting failed wars.

every ally in the world is an ally of convenience. did u think nazi germany wanted italy to fall? that would of meant the loss of an important ally. italy had their sights set on the occupation african nations. and u are wrong by saying germany wanted to separate themselves from europe. hitler did not want to fight the british or the americans because he saw them as aryans as well. and nothing in nazi culture was any different than mainstream european culture.

and why do u think nazi germany wouldnt of wanted free oil? u think if they would of defeated europe and the united states, all of the sudden they would play nice with nations far weaker than them?

hitler was a pseudo pagan who was obsessed with the supremacy of the make believe white aryan nation. him having respect for islam is not exactly something we should be bragging about. its no different than when a skinhead is pro muslim because they are anti jew.

a nazi germany that was victorious would of been the british empire times 10. u are delusional if u think these race obsessed kufar would of been good for afghanistan or muslims.

if the nazis had no problem fighting and killing their own europeans, do u really think they wouldnt do the same to some brown muslims outside of their continent?

[unknownprince]

Hitler would have easily have been killed. end of story. One of his trusted "officials" would have done it...

before he ever presented any threat to the middle east/Asia/central Asian region.

[randolph85]

yeah because the death of hitler would of meant the death of german imperialism based on aryan supremacy....

hitler survived the 6 years war with europe after 100 million were killed and he killed himself when he knew the end was near. do u really think that after the war was won and the nazis ruled europe, someone would of offed him then instead of unstable wartime?

dude, whats wrong with u? dont choose sides between the kufar. when they are fighting each other, both sides are evil. in 30 years, the soviet union as well as america has ****ed us sideways, dont be a communist or a "democrat"

[unknownprince]

yes, Hitler could have easily been assassinated. Germans are just like any other European. Their loyalty can be bought. He ruled out of fear.

and its not called picking sides, its called diplomacy. Afghanistan has lacked alliances and good diplomatic relations, and that is precisely why losers get to start failed wars on Afghans.

So, there is a fine line between not picking sides, and making the right choices in increasing diplomatic relations with nations that pose no threat to your own. Germany posed no threat to Afghanistan.