Taliban explain Ahmad Wali's killing

[khushal]

you really should refrain from speaking about Afghan issues.

Non Pashtuns never stepped foot into Pashtun areas during the civil war.

Non Pashtuns only fought ONE PASHTUN group during the 90s civil war. That was Hezb E Islami-Gulbuddin. Sayafs group was allied with Jamiat.

Every other Pashtun jihadi group stayed out of the 90s civil war.

At no point, has any non Pashtun group gone into the east or south

Never happened

Never happened, Never will.

[khushal]

Stupidity has no limit As far I know your brothers were defeated and killed to thousands by fighting their opponents face to face. You just could topple NA criminals because of us, the arabs and obl. Another reason why you were succesful was that Ahmad Massud gave you the permission to enter Kabul valley and you could rule over unarmed civilians, mostly children and women. After 09/11 the NA crimianls showed you on the ground who is stronger. Even the small Karzai troup of 10 were better in fighting than Taliban (Taliban could never rule Kandahar without the support and permission of the civilians there). The Taliban are nothing compared to his criminal troups. Without our support they had turned Kandhaar to a new Tajekistan. But don´t be 100% sure American will leave Afghanistan. It i said only 33 000 will leave, the majority will move to the north and establish there a front against your brothers.


Compare them with your Taliban who couldn´t not fight a single war without our support, MASS SUPPORT. Have you forgotten our generals in Kabul, Mazar, Kunduz and the large arab army?

As soon as possible you need to recognize the balance changing of Afghanistan and live a standard norm of life because after US and NATO withdraw we will not waste our money for you to defeat anyone and noone will be there to stop or controll the NA criminals. We need the money for ourself, our children, education and not for your Taliban. The Afghan nation army is getting better and more useful in the hands of local warlords and militias. They get supported by the US with money, new weapons, better trainings, air crafts etc.

Wake up. Stop dreaming. Taliban are losing. No matter what Americans will do in the next weeks or years. Your holly warriors fight like cowards hiding themself behind children and women. When we fire on them or the US you cry we killed civilians. Of course civilians died, but not from our hands.

Hide yourself in caves on top of mountains. And you wonder why drones or air craft rockets kill you? Guys, we have the 21th century, but killing is not easy, as long ABC weapons are not used. A bullet kills even the best soldier no matter how strong he is armed.

It is you who is stupid.
first you say that the US is forced to withdraw most of its forces and then rest will set up in the north and create a front against the Taliban and then you say the Taliban are losing. Thats a contradiction. Try to keep your arguments rational.
Second your Masood hero didn't give permission, he was forced out because he was incapable of creating any kind of an administration in Kabul, he was always under siege. He did not have the leadership qualities to unite the people. The Taliban went from Quandahar to Kabul without a fight and for the first time since the fall of the Najib government it was free from siege.
Your Masood hero was a coward, an opportunist who only cared about his own interests. He took money from the Russians, ISI, the CIA, the French the Iranians and he sold his people. The prodigies of Masood today are selling their people for the USDs. They learned well from their teacher on how to sell their people.

[Chelsea-Fan]

It is you who is stupid.
first you say that the US is forced to withdraw most of its forces and then rest will set up in the north and create a front against the Taliban and then you say the Taliban are losing. Thats a contradiction. Try to keep your arguments rational.
Second your Masood hero didn't give permission, he was forced out because he was incapable of creating any kind of an administration in Kabul, he was always under siege. He did not have the leadership qualities to unite the people. The Taliban went from Quandahar to Kabul without a fight and for the first time since the fall of the Najib government it was free from siege.
Your Masood hero was a coward, an opportunist who only cared about his own interests. He took money from the Russians, ISI, the CIA, the French the Iranians and he sold his people. The prodigies of Masood today are selling their people for the USDs. They learned well from their teacher on how to sell their people.

America is not losing the war. They are going outg of money butthey will go nowhere. Everyone who studied american history knows that they will be still for the next 25years a world power with long arms around the globe. America´s 33000 soldiers are just a small reaction of that. Afghanistan is not the only country where they are active. South Korea, Vitnam, middle and eastern Europe, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and in many more countries. Their withdraw will be limited to 33000 men and women and they will move to the north because they do not see any reasons more to fight in the south against Taliban since Taliban are welcomed by most people. You guys read articles of this excelent Indian writer but do not understand it´s essence. Most of you are either to hard manipulated by the idea of Talibanism or you are to uneducated to see reality. We are not talking here about Andorra or Hawaiian country, we are talking here about powerful nations who have a lot to say and you will follow their dictates like a dog. That´s reality. Do you think anyone is interested in an Afghanistan in the hands of Taliban? Your own non-Pakhtun neighbours are reforming themself against theTaliban. American will support them and in return they will buy their ''tickets'' to pump for oil and gas. After Obama another american president will take his place. 43 presidents to day had America and not a single of them had ever preached peace. Everyone of them fought their wars.

Grow up. Get educated. Accept the civilised world. Get integrated and go for education, a better life, a wife, a house and children. Accept this or accept death along your brothers. Today, we are kept backward while other people go to moon. Whose faults is it? Your enemies faults or that of your own? Of course of our own. Instead going to schools we sell outself to foreigners and become servants. We serve everyone, except ourself. You chose your fate. Either you step to the side of those who are the winners or those who will lose. Very easy. If you can not chose between one side than shut up, stop writing non-senses behind your PC under a pseudonym. If you are such a good warrior, Taliban, terrorist and fighter, why do you live in a country that have ''invaded' your country? Where is your honour, your Taliban pride? Here we can see the real face of a Taliban. Beeing the greatest hyocrite and a coward.

deera manana aw allah hafiz

[BarakzaiAbdali]

America is not losing the war. They are going outg of money butthey will go nowhere. Everyone who studied american history knows that they will be still for the next 25years a world power with long arms around the globe. America´s 33000 soldiers are just a small reaction of that. Afghanistan is not the only country where they are active. South Korea, Vitnam, middle and eastern Europe, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and in many more countries. Their withdraw will be limited to 33000 men and women and they will move to the north because they do not see any reasons more to fight in the south against Taliban since Taliban are welcomed by most people. You guys read articles of this excelent Indian writer but do not understand it´s essence. Most of you are either to hard manipulated by the idea of Talibanism or you are to uneducated to see reality. We are not talking here about Andorra or Hawaiian country, we are talking here about powerful nations who have a lot to say and you will follow their dictates like a dog. That´s reality. Do you think anyone is interested in an Afghanistan in the hands of Taliban? Your own non-Pakhtun neighbours are reforming themself against theTaliban. American will support them and in return they will buy their ''tickets'' to pump for oil and gas. After Obama another american president will take his place. 43 presidents to day had America and not a single of them had ever preached peace. Everyone of them fought their wars.

Grow up. Get educated. Accept the civilised world. Get integrated and go for education, a better life, a wife, a house and children. Accept this or accept death along your brothers. Today, we are kept backward while other people go to moon. Whose faults is it? Your enemies faults or that of your own? Of course of our own. Instead going to schools we sell outself to foreigners and become servants. We serve everyone, except ourself. You chose your fate. Either you step to the side of those who are the winners or those who will lose. Very easy. If you can not chose between one side than shut up, stop writing non-senses behind your PC under a pseudonym. If you are such a good warrior, Taliban, terrorist and fighter, why do you live in a country that have ''invaded' your country? Where is your honour, your Taliban pride? Here we can see the real face of a Taliban. Beeing the greatest hyocrite and a coward.

deera manana aw allah hafiz

Ah the same recycled argument: If you speak against Karzai or the occupation, or if you live in a Western country then you must tow the line. That would be all good and well were it not for Western leaders like Dr. Paul, Dr Scheuer and a host of others who ALSO condemn US idiocy abroad in the form of interventionalism. You also make a logic mistake. The Talibs are on the ground fighting... not behind PC screens. I think the proof of that was the recent rocket strike on that Chinook comrade.

You also forget the same history you quote. Remember Vietnam? Go read up on that... that is your reading assignmen today. I will also assign you some reading about the nearly 50 plus year long struggle with the British that the Afghan nation had. Then too were there Muslims training in Britain who disagreed with British policy. It mattered not one lick or wit what these folks thought... the British empire contracted for many of the same reasons that the American Empire will... it spread itself thin because of its hubris.

For all the education you claim to have, you seem to not appreciate its application in making your theories.

Finally, regarding bowing like a dog... its funny that you admit that you northerns will welcome them into your bastions. Doesnt that mean that you are the one bowing like a dog and that the southern Afghans, the Pashtuns, namely, have made them bow like dogs?

[khushal]

America is not losing the war. They are going outg of money butthey will go nowhere. Everyone who studied american history knows that they will be still for the next 25years a world power with long arms around the globe. America´s 33000 soldiers are just a small reaction of that. Afghanistan is not the only country where they are active. South Korea, Vitnam, middle and eastern Europe, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and in many more countries. Their withdraw will be limited to 33000 men and women and they will move to the north because they do not see any reasons more to fight in the south against Taliban since Taliban are welcomed by most people. You guys read articles of this excelent Indian writer but do not understand it´s essence. Most of you are either to hard manipulated by the idea of Talibanism or you are to uneducated to see reality. We are not talking here about Andorra or Hawaiian country, we are talking here about powerful nations who have a lot to say and you will follow their dictates like a dog. That´s reality. Do you think anyone is interested in an Afghanistan in the hands of Taliban? Your own non-Pakhtun neighbours are reforming themself against theTaliban. American will support them and in return they will buy their ''tickets'' to pump for oil and gas. After Obama another american president will take his place. 43 presidents to day had America and not a single of them had ever preached peace. Everyone of them fought their wars.

Grow up. Get educated. Accept the civilised world. Get integrated and go for education, a better life, a wife, a house and children. Accept this or accept death along your brothers. Today, we are kept backwardwe sell outself while other people go to moon. Whose faults is it? Your enemies faults or that of your own? Of course of our own. Instead going to schools to foreigners and become servants. We serve everyone, except ourself. You chose your fate. Either you step to the side of those who are the winners or those who will lose. Very easy. If you can not chose between one side than shut up, stop writing non-senses behind your PC under a pseudonym. If you are such a good warrior, Taliban, terrorist and fighter, why do you live in a country that have ''invaded' your country? Where is your honour, your Taliban pride? Here we can see the real face of a Taliban. Beeing the greatest hyocrite and a coward.

deera manana aw allah hafiz

See I told you that your a Sick Tajik nationalist. When you are talking about Afghans, you say "WE" and "OURSELF" and "OWN". If you were Pakistani you would not use such words and also if you were Pakistani your English and spelling would be a lot better, your English and your spelling sucks.
It is you who is a hypocrite and a coward like your hero Masood.
Ex-Soviet commander unveil Masoud's secret pact

It is you who is backwards and sell yourself just like your hero who sold himself and his people to the CIA, The ISI, Iran, India, Soviets until there was no buyer.
You have your head up your *ss so deep that its pathetic, you dont even think before you type.

[Chelsea-Fan]

Al right, your right lol

[BarakzaiAbdali]

America is not losing the war. They are going outg of money butthey will go nowhere. Everyone who studied american history knows that they will be still for the next 25years a world power with long arms around the globe. America´s 33000 soldiers are just a small reaction of that. Afghanistan is not the only country where they are active. South Korea, Vitnam, middle and eastern Europe, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and in many more countries. Their withdraw will be limited to 33000 men and women and they will move to the north because they do not see any reasons more to fight in the south against Taliban since Taliban are welcomed by most people. You guys read articles of this excelent Indian writer but do not understand it´s essence. Most of you are either to hard manipulated by the idea of Talibanism or you are to uneducated to see reality. We are not talking here about Andorra or Hawaiian country, we are talking here about powerful nations who have a lot to say and you will follow their dictates like a dog. That´s reality. Do you think anyone is interested in an Afghanistan in the hands of Taliban? Your own non-Pakhtun neighbours are reforming themself against theTaliban. American will support them and in return they will buy their ''tickets'' to pump for oil and gas. After Obama another american president will take his place. 43 presidents to day had America and not a single of them had ever preached peace. Everyone of them fought their wars.

Grow up. Get educated. Accept the civilised world. Get integrated and go for education, a better life, a wife, a house and children. Accept this or accept death along your brothers. Today, we are kept backward while other people go to moon. Whose faults is it? Your enemies faults or that of your own? Of course of our own. Instead going to schools we sell outself to foreigners and become servants. We serve everyone, except ourself. You chose your fate. Either you step to the side of those who are the winners or those who will lose. Very easy. If you can not chose between one side than shut up, stop writing non-senses behind your PC under a pseudonym. If you are such a good warrior, Taliban, terrorist and fighter, why do you live in a country that have ''invaded' your country? Where is your honour, your Taliban pride? Here we can see the real face of a Taliban. Beeing the greatest hyocrite and a coward.

deera manana aw allah hafiz

Btw, the only country to have landed on the moon was the US. Tajikistan and Uzbekistan and certainly any part of Northern afghanistan has about as much chance of reaching the moon as a 5 year old's pet rock does.

[unknownprince]

Ah the same recycled argument: If you speak against Karzai or the occupation, or if you live in a Western country then you must tow the line. That would be all good and well were it not for Western leaders like Dr. Paul, Dr Scheuer and a host of others who ALSO condemn US idiocy abroad in the form of interventionalism. You also make a logic mistake. The Talibs are on the ground fighting... not behind PC screens. I think the proof of that was the recent rocket strike on that Chinook comrade.

You also forget the same history you quote. Remember Vietnam? Go read up on that... that is your reading assignmen today. I will also assign you some reading about the nearly 50 plus year long struggle with the British that the Afghan nation had. Then too were there Muslims training in Britain who disagreed with British policy. It mattered not one lick or wit what these folks thought... the British empire contracted for many of the same reasons that the American Empire will... it spread itself thin because of its hubris.

For all the education you claim to have, you seem to not appreciate its application in making your theories.

Finally, regarding bowing like a dog... its funny that you admit that you northerns will welcome them into your bastions. Doesnt that mean that you are the one bowing like a dog and that the southern Afghans, the Pashtuns, namely, have made them bow like dogs?

Well said words by Barakzai, addressing all points, especially in regards to speaking out.

Chelsea (I assume you are Muslim), and you know I want a united Afghanistan, but look as you are Tajik, maybe you do not understand or comprehend that Pashtuns will resist and destroy those who try to fight them. You can't even compare Spartans to Pashtuns. Pashtuns are the most honorable people in the world, never showing fear, always honor and bravery, and this will pay off. Freedom is the most important thing, and you should be happy because even your areas in the North will be free.


Now, as for me, I am in the West, and all I am doing is posting an article I feel in informative. I know, you can't call MK Bhadrakumar an ISI agent since he is a former Indian diplomat. He gives an accurate detail of what is going on.

If you don't like reading it, then don't.




Take it easy. Pashtuns in Afghanistan (not in the West) are even freeing your areas in the North.

Join hands in Islam, stop being divisive.

This is ramadan, and we all want a united and free Afghan free from foreigners and their Kabul rats.

[Shayesta]

when did Ahmed Shaw Masood fight face to face. The people you admire are hiding behind US soldiers like the women they are.

Stupidity has no limit.

Daghe se Khushala, you hit the nail on a perfect spot.

[Chelsea-Fan]

Btw, the only country to have landed on the moon was the US. Tajikistan and Uzbekistan and certainly any part of Northern afghanistan has about as much chance of reaching the moon as a 5 year old's pet rock does.

Who cares about Tajekistan or Uzbekistan. We should care about ourself. Those countries stand over majority of us. Believe me. What have Uzbekistan to do with Pakhtuns? Crazy comment.

[abassinafghan]

i am from khandahr , and i have unfourtently ties to all kind of people in the watan , especially in the higer ups . and i really mean to all kind of people ...

ahmad walli was not killed by the taliban , but hamid and ahmad had an internal badi , which goes back to the 80s , the so called killer was also a relative of him ( qaumi ,and 3.degree relativ ) last year or this year , they killed also one of his akas and blamed it on a collateral damage of the americans . ( ahmad ordered it )

2 years ago ,its said ,that ahmad killed the police chief of khandahar ( also relative of hamid ) . because he was scared that he would replace him

besides to this ahmad and his older brother were on a clinsh over houses in kabul , a new "share nou " a huge place for new real estate , and alot of cash .


so hamid and also ahmad had alot of badis , even in their own village of karz long before an american put their foot on afghan soil .and alot of badis with their own qaum and also familiy .

hamids father was notorious known for hidding criminals in his house , imprisoning people and than charge money from the families to get them free from the zaranwal .

[unknownprince]

I don't understand this theatrical that has been played to discredit the Taliban when Sardar Muhammad's family themselves admitted he killed Ahmad Wali at the request of the Taliban.

Think: a fellow drug gangster was willing to sacrifice his own LIFE over a personal feud. No one can buy that because gangster thugs, especially those who hide behind foreigners LOVE LIFE too much. Sardar Muhammad's motivations stem most likely from the usual Afghan nationalism and pride, and from his faith. Maybe when he decided on this a while before, he wanted to redeem himself?

Daud Daud, Jan Khan, Ahmad Wali?? Its a pattern.