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    No protest from Pakistan over gay event: US



    WASHINGTON - The Obama administration Tuesday endorsed the recent hosting by the American Embassy in Islamabad of the first-ever event to uphold the rights of gay, lesbians and transgender (GLBT), saying the U.S. will continue to speak up for their rights.
    "(W)e will speak out for what we think is right anywhere in the world, including in Pakistan," State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said while responding to a question about anti-US demonstrations across Pakistan protesting the event.
    Asked whether the Pakistan government has lodged a formal complaint with the US over that event, she said, "Not that I'm aware of today.
    On June 26, the American Embassy in Islamabad hosted the controversial gay rights event at which US Charged’ Affaires Ambassador Richard Hoaglanand assured the Pakistani participants that Washington would continue to support their cause.
    "I think you know how strongly this (State) Department and Secretary [Hillary] Clinton feels about these issues, that gay rights are human rights and human rights are gay rights, and that we will speak out for what we think is right anywhere in the world, including in Pakistan," the spokesperson added.




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    The US Embassy's hosting of Pakistan's first lesbian, gay bisexual and transgender (LGBT) 'Pride Celebration' has spurred a debate in the virtual world, where it is safest to air views on the taboo subject. Most people learnt of the celebration organised on June 26 through a statement

    posted in the 'press releases' section of the US Embassy website.





    Unlike other press releases from the Embassy, however, this one was not widely circulated among the media.
    As the release was posted on micro-blogging site Twitter and various Pakistani blogs, people took to the virtual world to debate the consequences of what was possibly the country's first LGBT event.
    The US Embassy's involvement in the event at a time of rising anti-American sentiments was pointed out by some bloggers.
    During the event at the US embassy, Charge d'Affaires Richard Hoagland acknowledged the struggle for LGBT rights in Pakistan and said: "I want to be clear: the US Embassy is here to support you and stand by your side every step of the way".
    A person who identified himself only as Ali wrote on the blog of The Express Tribune daily: "To all the straight people out there, think of this. Why would anyone in their right mind choose to be gay in a society that persecutes anything different? I am gay".
    "I would never wish it on anyone else as life can become hell. I would never choose this. But the fact is I don't have a choice, I am who I am.
    "So I just accept myself and get along with life".
    Ali added: "If you ask me to get married, who should I marry? Would you like it if your sister was married to a man who could not make her happy?" He pointed out that the situation is worse for lesbians in Pakistan.
    Some bloggers took exception to Pakistan's opposition to the first resolution passed by the United Nations last month to endorse the rights of gay, lesbian and transgender people.
    Blogger Nuwas Manto criticised Pakistan's envoy to the UN, Zamir Akram, for his stance on LGBT rights.
    "We, the Pakistani queer people and our straight alliances, disapprove of the statement by Mr Akram that the resolution has nothing whatsoever to do with 'fundamental human rights'," Manto wrote.
    "I am here to inform the world and Zamir Akram... that homosexuals do exist in Pakistan and that we demand our rights to love people of our own gender or even change our gender when we feel necessary to do so," read Manto's post on a blog.
    "It is our body – the state and the ordinary mullah on the street must keep out of our beds," he said.
    In a related post elsewhere, a gay reader noted that the 'Pakistan Queer Community' had been asked to shut up "but it doesn't mean we will stop speaking up for our personal freedoms".
    Manto, in a post for an Indian gay magazine, dwelt on the life of a gay person in Pakistan.
    He noted that his family had been telling him how "I should become more manly" and that he could not be open about his sexual orientation as that would bring shame to his family.
    Several groups like LGBT Pakistan have been floated on Facebook.
    "Being a lesbian, gay, bisexual or trans-sexual person is a considered a taboo vice in Pakistan and gay rights are close to non-existent.
    "According to law, homosexuality has been illegal in Pakistan since 1860. Unlike in neighbouring India, the law has yet to be repealed," reads the statement of the group inviting all gays to join.

  • #2
    what a hypocracy from the US side banning gays to serve in their army, but talking of freedom and gay rights in other countries. they know where to impose and dictate. pakistan itself is a prostitute country, just pay do and use it as you want.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Adamyousafzai
      I wonder if any "pathans" from PF went . . .
      I think Toramana and kafiryar maseed were the guests of honor.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Adamyousafzai
        I wonder if any "pathans" from PF went . . .
        you are pathan!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Adamyousafzai
          FOB queen says what?

          you should go coz ur pathan

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          • #6
            Well this is pathan forums after all...lol
            My Blog

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            • #7
              Pathan Forums

              Worlds largest online Pathan community.

              Nice ring

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              • #8
                isn't this ironic... In US LGBT community is fighting to gain rights and the US is fighting for the rights of LGBT in other countries? lol.

                and as far as pakistan is concerned... really how low can yo go? loool
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                • #9
                  Outright sickening !

                  I could barely read any of it, especially look at how distorted
                  this "spokeswoman" 's face is : there's
                  alliance with evil
                  very present in her eyes and every single one of these
                  advocates.
                  They have all dedicated their lives to serving Evil.

                  It shows plainly in their pictures and would even more if
                  one saw them in person.

                  Watch out State Dept, US Govt. and all those who push for such a
                  disgusting and wicked revolt against God or
                  condone this -- there is a God and He will punish you !!

                  PS - yesterday I saw a headline saying that "gay history" MUST be taught
                  in California schools -

                  How much more into the bogs of Hell can this nation sink?

                  Does anyone notice the arrogant tone of this woman/devil in disguise -
                  and how much that
                  is a representative of how Shaitan would speak : demanding rude, pushy
                  shoving others around to do the bidding of the dark side ....?

                  Note it so you can catch in people around you - avoid them like the plague !

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                  • #10
                    PS - yesterday I saw a headline saying that "gay history" MUST be taught
                    in California schools -?

                    well most of their history is gays anyway,startign with the ancient Greeks.


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                    • #11
                      ^ Funny !

                      I never thought of that.

                      Right now it has turned into a CULT of HOMOSEXUALITY,
                      however, and
                      OVERTLY
                      whereas those Greeks were not that obvious as these
                      children of the devil pushing their deviancy on even innocent
                      children, let alone making the rest of normal society
                      nauseated by having to deal with them anywhere they go.

                      It's almost normal people have been put onto the
                      DEFENSIVE, and their power has gotten to all - time low levels.

                      Whereas these smug demonic creatures are puffed up
                      with their OFFENSIVES.

                      Lecturing Pakistan is shocking to me, though.

                      Is there a gay rights society in Afghanistan yet?

                      Let that nato occupation last any longer and
                      this woman will be preaching to Afghans
                      the same revolting gospel....

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                      • #12
                        Pakistanian kuniaan lol

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                        • #13
                          Its encouraging people to fight for the right to be immoral. Morality today is considered barbaric and backward and immorality is modern and progressive.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Master Khan View Post
                            Pakistanian kuniaan lol
                            shortly PAKIAN

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                            • #15
                              good for them. at least they are doing something right.

                              I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                              non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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