Afghans Ready to Retaliate Against Pakistan Missile Attacks

[Azmal]

Afghanistan is occupied by US, shame. Afghanistan has become play ground and puppet of other countries....it should be divided and distributed among its neighbor countries.

I’ve a better idea….how about we break away the post-colonial, superficial, nuclear proliferating, terrorism sponsoring basked case known as “Pakistan” into smaller, manageable sub-units drifting back into “Unions” with bordering states with shared commonalities. Then, we make all state borders inconsequential by encouraging a free trade zone between India,Iran and Central Asia….with the potential to extend further into Russia and China so that they don’t feel dangerously alienated. How do I sound? Do you suppose your smart-ass commentary here is more valid than my humble vision, which excludes Pakistan? Which of us do you suppose is more realistic? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again….there will come a day when an Afghan family will plan a holiday for a trip up the Volga or a flight down to Delhi……I just don’t see a “Pakistan” fitting anywhere in this picture…do you? Seriously now...do you?

[unknownprince]

I don't know if any of you guys been following this but from back home. 3 hours ago I just got a news that 5 more death, 3 children and 2 women in different villages due to intense pakistani military shelling. Although Afghans did fire towards Military base trying not to cause civilian casualties. But stopped according to the local Afghan police commander because Pakistan has been bombing both sides of durand and claim that rockets were fired from Afghanistan. This new allegation was soon rejected when Afghan police answered an elder from pakistan who brought rocket pieces to investigate because it injured his grand child said they don't carry Chinese made Pakistani brand of 1977.

If you guys think about it and research Pakistanis are making up stories of their 50 soldiers and 80 injured before launching special offensive to Kunar and Nangahar. Because now they claim its not them and then say "oh some rockets may have fell into Afghan soil accidental" then again when question rises to large number of rockets fired at civilians some Pakistani media Gov hired agencies blame USA and chant death to America. While opposition comes down with facts that if its really USA then also its Pakistanis who allowed their Air base such as Shamsi famously known as American base where American plan and non-pilot air plan were also spotted. Very ironically the shameless Pakistani PM making a big lies to their people and says "my government never allowed Americans to use Pakistani air base" lol was this guy drunk when Musharaf signed worth 3 billion dollar deal? Why not tell pakistani citizens that to date Pakistan has received more aid 20% more than in that of Afghanistan? Pakistan is owned as much as Afghanistan has been.

Well from what see as I always say regardless to whatsoever there is only one race that is considered loser in this war and that is Afghan race.

This is exactly what is happening. Like always Pakistan is indeed doing this with US support and encouragement.

[Michin Khel]

I’ve a better idea….how about we break away the post-colonial, superficial, nuclear proliferating, terrorism sponsoring basked case known as “Pakistan” into smaller, manageable sub-units drifting back into “Unions” with bordering states with shared commonalities. Then, we make all state borders inconsequential by encouraging a free trade zone between India,Iran and Central Asia….with the potential to extend further into Russia and China so that they don’t feel dangerously alienated. How do I sound? Do you suppose your smart-ass commentary here is more valid than my humble vision, which excludes Pakistan? Which of us do you suppose is more realistic? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again….there will come a day when an Afghan family will plan a holiday for a trip up the Volga or a flight down to Delhi……I just don’t see a “Pakistan” fitting anywhere in this picture…do you? Seriously now...do you?

There will come a day when 6 million afghans will leave pakistan (inshallah)......Your kabulis fled to pakistan during soviet invasion instead of delhi......Do your relatives still live in hayatabad?

[Michin Khel]

This monstrous missile will keep afghan pests away from Pakistan....

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

pakistan interferes because of the pashtunistan issue. we should publicly disavow any land claim east of the durand. we should make it a priority to repatriate all afghan nationals from afghanistan.

we should kick all pakistani and indian presence out of our land and declare neutrality. i dont care about peshawar and quetta. this is a pakistani (indian muslim) concern. weve destroyed our nation pursuing a pashtunistan policy. we need to wake up and smell the biryani. lar pakhtuns want nothing to do with us

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

This monstrous missile will keep afghan pests away from Pakistan....

luffy is quite right. we are not in a position to talk shiit to any one. the pakistanis could destroy us in 2 hrs. we need to stop throwing stones at bigger animals

btw does pakistani have a missle named after a non afghan? i mean i dont blame them for latching onto afghan culture and history since they dont have one

this is a serious question. i know they have abdali, ghaznavi and ghauri. do they have any non afghan named missles?

[unknownprince]

pakistan interferes because of the pashtunistan issue. we should publicly disavow any land claim east of the durand. we should make it a priority to repatriate all afghan nationals from afghanistan.

we should kick all pakistani and indian presence out of our land and declare neutrality. i dont care about peshawar and quetta. this is a pakistani (indian muslim) concern. weve destroyed our nation pursuing a pashtunistan policy. we need to wake up and smell the biryani. lar pakhtuns want nothing to do with us

Pakistan interferes because they are paid by the US. It has nothing to do with Durrand line. Do you honestly think that a someone in Helmand is concerned about Durrand line NOW??, now they want to rid their country of the foreigners from their country. in 30-40 years, the Durrand line will be resolved. It is not relevant at this time.


Pakistan is simply a slave- no further explanation is needed.

They drink Afghan blood, and are paid by the foreigners for this.

They are short term thinkers.

[Nick]

luffy is quite right. we are not in a position to talk shiit to any one. the pakistanis could destroy us in 2 hrs. we need to stop throwing stones at bigger animals

btw does pakistani have a missle named after a non afghan? i mean i dont blame them for latching onto afghan culture and history since they dont have one

this is a serious question. i know they have abdali, ghaznavi and ghauri. do they have any non afghan named missles?

ok so much for their old dated missiles, although they updated some in 2008 but still. Many of such much stronger missiles were fired into Afghanistan by the Russians as well as by the Americans (some even say Russians even used mini Atomic bombs) but whatever the case we are the losers we have nothing to lose but that nasty Karzai and his gang.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

luffy is quite right. we are not in a position to talk shiit to any one. the pakistanis could destroy us in 2 hrs. we need to stop throwing stones at bigger animals

btw does pakistani have a missle named after a non afghan? i mean i dont blame them for latching onto afghan culture and history since they dont have one

this is a serious question. i know they have abdali, ghaznavi and ghauri. do they have any non afghan named missles?

Take a look at this video starting in at 2 minutes regarding the CIA creation of the KPF (Khost Protection Forces). These sons of b-i-t-c-h-e-s are killing Pashtuns on both sides of the border that are fighting against what they view as American occupation. They routinely kill and torture Pashtuns in Khost itself. Their presence is becoming more and more known and folks are picking up on their CIA roots. The tables have turned and they are now recognized as paid puppets.

This video is from months ago before this shelling.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...for-bin-laden/

Then, look at the segment on the KFP starting at 2 minutes and 50 seconds. The interview from the former commander and the wiki leaks war logs discussed at 3 minutes 50 seconds indicates that they shelled inside Pakistan.

This article indicating a militant raid:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/191628/raid-on-bajaur/

Was likely a similar CIA oufitted raid that killed innocent Pashtuns in Bajaur (KPF is not solely based in Khost anymore). The idea was to pose as the militants and raid across the border. Yet it makes no sense why Afghan militants would want to make themselves unwelcome in Bajaur where they find refuge from time to time it seems.

The hilarious thing is how incompetent the KPF is. They were actually gaurding the base in Khost that the CIA agents were killed in:

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/news...ted.5954963.jp

They could not even gaurd their own territory against an Arab.

However, they were incompetent even when protecting their own; who were initially referred to as civilians.

http://www.pajhwok.com/ps/node/67776

What does this chalk up to? That they are killing Pashtuns, at the behest of foreigners in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, and they are getting paid for it.

Why does all this matter? Its as we discussed before, you and I. Similar to the incursions that the Zahir Shah government fomented, by arming Kharoti mercenaries, into Waziristan, knowingly arming clear enemies of the some of the Yargu Khel Wazirs, these folks know that they are creating a situation where Pakistan maintains strategems focused on its strategic depth policies.

The KFP's activities are bound to create situations such as this shelling incident. The organizations raid Bajaur and FATA and excite ill will.

This however does not justify the killing of Pashtun civilians in retaliation. Rather, the KPF sticks out like a sore thumb ala the Khost incident.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Pakistan interferes because they are paid by the US. It has nothing to do with Durrand line. Do you honestly think that a someone in Helmand is concerned about Durrand line NOW??, now they want to rid their country of the foreigners from their country. in 30-40 years, the Durrand line will be resolved. It is not relevant at this time.


Pakistan is simply a slave- no further explanation is needed.

They drink Afghan blood, and are paid by the foreigners for this.

They are short term thinkers.

Double game to line the pockets.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Well said Nick,
Take a look at this ...




http://articles.cnn.com/2011-06-29/w...ns?_s=PM:WORLD



Then

http://www.sananews.net/english/2011...n-face-of-pak/

How you know when a Paki is lying? When is lips are moving...never trust the despicable, brown butted paki cockroaches...De khar zoy is making great mistake! Both Karzia and Taliban speak Pashto…why we need a daal khor Paki to translate?

You still have not learned despite my many beatings adminstered to you you that its ZAI or ZOY, a suffix that means son of. Its not Z-I-A, which means something entirely different you poser.

Go back to Saleh's land you confused descendent of a Pakistani named Telai that sold the lands to Rao Singh. As noted elsewhere you compare Pashtun women to slaves and play things from Abdur Rahman and Telai, you sick son of Pakistan. You are mad at Luffy when your great great great supposed grandfather (supposed becase we know who you really are) created this mess. Actually both of your supposed pertend grandfathers did it. Sad enough taht you pose here as a Pashtun, when you cannot even generate real worthwhile ascendents.

Now, you except us to take the word of an incompetent descendent of two incompetents. Please, Confirmed Lineage Pakistani (that should be your new rap star nickname (CLP), take your advice elsewhere.

[unknownprince]

Take a look at this video starting in at 2 minutes regarding the CIA creation of the KPF (Khost Protection Forces). These sons of b-i-t-c-h-e-s are killing Pashtuns on both sides of the border that are fighting against what they view as American occupation. They routinely kill and torture Pashtuns in Khost itself. Their presence is becoming more and more known and folks are picking up on their CIA roots. The tables have turned and they are now recognized as paid puppets.

This video is from months ago before this shelling.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/fighting-for-bin-laden/

Then, look at the segment on the KFP starting at 2 minutes and 50 seconds. The interview from the former commander and the wiki leaks war logs discussed at 3 minutes 50 seconds indicates that they shelled inside Pakistan.

This article indicating a militant raid:

http://tribune.com.pk/story/191628/raid-on-bajaur/

Was likely a similar CIA oufitted raid that killed innocent Pashtuns in Bajaur (KPF is not solely based in Khost anymore). The idea was to pose as the militants and raid across the border. Yet it makes no sense why Afghan militants would want to make themselves unwelcome in Bajaur where they find refuge from time to time it seems.

The hilarious thing is how incompetent the KPF is. They were actually gaurding the base in Khost that the CIA agents were killed in:

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/news/CIA-militia-guarding-base-targeted.5954963.jp

They could not even gaurd their own territory against an Arab.

However, they were incompetent even when protecting their own; who were initially referred to as civilians.

http://www.pajhwok.com/ps/node/67776

What does this chalk up to? That they are killing Pashtuns, at the behest of foreigners in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, and they are getting paid for it.

Why does all this matter? Its as we discussed before, you and I. Similar to the incursions that the Zahir Shah government fomented, by arming Kharoti mercenaries, into Waziristan, knowingly arming clear enemies of the some of the Yargu Khel Wazirs, these folks know that they are creating a situation where Pakistan maintains strategems focused on its strategic depth policies.

The KFP's activities are bound to create situations such as this shelling incident. The organizations raid Bajaur and FATA and excite ill will.

This however does not justify the killing of Pashtun civilians in retaliation. Rather, the KPF sticks out like a sore thumb ala the Khost incident.

Thanks for finding this. I found the cross border raids which involved 200 militants to be absurd and highly unbelievable as I think other Afghans caught onto it very quickly.

The Dir attacks were staged, and now with your findings it is certain it was the KPF (whatever) posing as others. This was denied by Afghans.

http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?240037

The plan appears to be to pressure Pakistan to start a full scale offensive on the border- so in essence this was planned with the full knowledge that everyone was fully aware who was doing the cross border attacks. This is not in Pakistan's interest at all (as much as they take money).

It never made any sense.

This is a statement in the linked article which indicates that these border attacks have been staged. http://www.uruknet.info/?p=78353


We are facing a big enemy in Afghanistan and fighting its forces. We are active neither in Pakistan nor any other part of the world. Our operations are restricted to Afghanistan," Zabihullah Mujahid

[randolph85]

Pakistan Taliban claims cross-border raid

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/06/03/uk-pakistan-afghanistan-militants-idUKTRE7524D720110603

By Ali Shah
SHALTALO, Pakistan | Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:37pm BST

SHALTALO, Pakistan (Reuters) - The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility on Friday for a cross-border attack on a security checkpost that appeared to signal that the group was adopting a new strategy of carrying out large-scale attacks on government and army targets.
In the pre-dawn raid on Wednesday in the village of Shaltalo in Dir region, up to 400 militants crossed over from Afghanistan in the raid which triggered more than 24 hours of clashes, the government said.
Twenty-seven Pakistani forces were killed and 45 militants died in the clashes in the northwest, security officials said. There were contradictory accounts of casualties and how many militants fought.
"Up to 40 to 50 of our fighters took part in the operation," Ehsanullah Ashen, spokesman for the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (Taliban Movement of Pakistan), told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location. "None of our fighters were killed."
The TTP has previously brought fighters from across the porous border with Afghanistan -- where it has allies -- to attack Pakistani security forces, but none were on the same scale as the Dir operation.
Deputy TTP leader Fakir Mohammed said the group with close ties to al Qaeda had changed strategy and would now focus on large-scale attacks only on state targets like the one in Dir.
"Our new strategy of launching big attacks on military installations was aimed at causing demoralisation in the ranks of the security forces and tiring of the government," he told Pakistan's The News newspaper from what he said was a location somewhere in Afghanistan.
REVENGE FOR BIN LADEN'S DEATH
A new TTP gameplan may complicate the army's efforts to weaken the group, which has stepped up suicide bombings to avenge the killing of Osama bin Laden by U.S. special forces in a Pakistani town on May 2.
Since then, the movement has attacked paramilitary cadets, a naval base, a U.S. consulate convoy and other targets, challenging government assertions that army offensives against militants have succeeded.
After bin Laden's death, the United States reiterated its call for Pakistan to crack down harder on militants, especially those who cross over to Afghanistan to attack Western forces.
The lawless frontier is home to some of the world's most dangerous militant groups, who are intricately linked and cross back and forth across fairly easily to carry out operations.
Pakistan's army will have to contend with a new TTP strategy at a time when it is still reeling from the bin Laden fiasco.
The U.S. raid opened the agency up to international suspicion it was complicity in hiding the al Qaeda leader, and to domestic criticism for failing to detect or stop the U.S. team.
Pakistan, dependent on billions of dollars in aid from its strategic ally Washington, is under more pressure than ever to tackle militancy because of the discovery bin Laden was living close to Islamabad.
As the Dir operation showed, it won't be easy.
On Friday, helicopter gunships pounded hilltops in assaults on the militants who were still in the area. Soldiers stood near a building pockmarked with large bullet holes from the fighting. Houses and schools were burnt out.
Most Pakistanis are opposed to the Taliban's austere interpretation of Islam and its violent methods.
"We also want to limit civilian casualties. Our ultimate objective is to force the government to end its alliance with the United States," said deputy TTP leader Mohammad.
Pakistanis are also frustrated by the apparent inability of the government to improve security in the nuclear-armed South Asian country, which has failed to create economic opportunities to keep young men from flocking to militant groups.
Rahimullah Yusufzai, an expert on militants, said the fighters involved in the Dir operation had probably fled to Afghanistan to escape government offensives.
Pakistan called on Thursday for stern action against militants in Afghanistan by Afghan and U.S.-led foreign forces to prevent further cross-border operations.
Pakistani Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir conveyed Pakistan's "strong concern" to the Afghan ambassador to Pakistan.
"We are in close contact with the Afghan Taliban. Both of us want to get rid of America and its slaves. Our activities will continue," said Ehsan.
(Additional reporting by Sahibzada Bahauddin in Khar and Zeeshan Haider in Islamabad; Writing by Michael Georgy; Editing by Alex Richardson)

[Nick]

pakistan interferes because of the pashtunistan issue. we should publicly disavow any land claim east of the durand. we should make it a priority to repatriate all afghan nationals from afghanistan.

we should kick all pakistani and indian presence out of our land and declare neutrality. i dont care about peshawar and quetta. this is a pakistani (indian muslim) concern. weve destroyed our nation pursuing a pashtunistan policy. we need to wake up and smell the biryani. lar pakhtuns want nothing to do with us

So brother you are suggesting that we should survive on foreign Aid. OK now tell me for how long? 10 more years, or until when all that 3 trillion worth of minerals (10-15 years) has been extracted??


Brother how would our economy survive in the long run. IF we accept in what you are proposing than again foreign aid wasn't Amanuallah getting 3 million aid a year from British? until he decided to be independent? LOL independence LOl I sometimes laugh what independence? Amanuallah's Independence simply was in the wake of the czarist breakdown, the Afghans used this opportunity to recover Merv and Panjdeh territories earlier sized by the Czar. Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin stuck with civil war send an envoy in Kabul , that if Amanuallah removes his troops from Merv and Panjdeh they will aid Afghans get their foreign independence from British. It happen as soon as we won, Lenin send 13 war airplanes with pilots and technicians as well as millions of other military and economical assistance. That's how we put British in check. LOL and once we were assured in May 1921 Treaty of Friendship was signed, and so Russian aid continued until 1933 from telephone lines to bridges, roads mostly in the north as well as industrial development, and by the Russian money they funded Hindu and Muslim ground base for anti-British militants <------- Another reason why British got ride of him by supporting tribes such as Safi, Shinwari etc. British removed him and replaced with Nader Khan who then protected those who fought against Amanullah Khan such as Safi tribes and their leaders. After his death again Afghans fooled by Japan and Germany, foreign aid was always there. My question to you is figure out why?

Tell me in historical-reminding when was it that you could remember that we survived as strong and influential since Shah Suja's submission to british? 200 years passed and to be honest Al ghaznavi I don't remember reading such record. If you can tell me that yes we did for a period longer than 20 years of peace and independence than ok I will accept it. But no longer than 20 years? Please remind yourself in the era of Maiwandiwal, Abdul Zahir, Etemadi, and Musa Shafiq within 5 years from 1967-1973 we lost 250,000 people, and some 100,000 alone died because of hunger related and economical problems that no such PM could fix. And 15 years before Russian invasion we almost thought that our nation could no longer coup with current economics because our country was not made for it.

Its no longer Silk route era brother we live in the 21th century and borders was no use back in 1900s sure I understand why selfish Abdur Rahman didn't give a damn.But today its all you got your borders, Russia lost their 3 million population just to have another Ocean access ie Indian Ocean. Today Russia is dying, their economy is dying and simply because their ocean rout is damn too far in the north and way too costly. In the streets of Moscow there are thousands of jobless youngsters are now fallowing Nazi skin head organization so that they can clean their nation from immigrant, and more populated cities. Why? because its costly to live, eat and economy of Moscow despite having control of all former republics and as same military capability as USA can no longer support themselves.

Tajikistan almost died and it was home of sex prostitution until 9/11.

So anything proposed by Dr. Tarzai as well as Abdul Majid Zabuli after lost of WWII is not going to work as we saw resulted in need for a political change which was why PDPA was formed by Taraki backed by Russia. Our economy cannot survive as landlocked because of geographical location anything we produce can be produced by our neighbors. Its impossible to survive within the current map. Our society is not fit for tourism (Ok maybe for tourism) but not prostitution based economy (Costa Rica, Cuba,Dominican Republic), alcohol , nor we have source that are in demand in 21 century such as oil or Water (in the 22th century), Gas, maybe 1/200 of what Pakistan has lol but not enough to power even one of our big 6 cities.

So what do we have? Sure we can have electricity if we want, but as one Afghan politician said why build? And if we build millions of Tajikistanis will die of hunger, We have contract with Tajikistan and they depend on us and we depend on them for cheaper electricity. LOL Cheaper wonder why? because everyone in central Asia has electricity. Ok fine generate Electricity but who is going to buy it? Yes we have Cotton but so does the north, Iran and Pakistan and off course lol China so who is going to buy it? yes we have wheat, rice and fruits but lol we buy them from Pakistan and sure we can buy them much cheaper from Tajikistan and Iran if we choose to close deals with Pakistan, but in the long run who is going to buy our products?---> Iran or Central Asia they produce enough to send to Europe so why buy ours? and even if they buy they don't want to after all Russia enforced the republics to buy Afghan products from 1957-1988. -->what Happen? LOL it was profitable and Russia made things worse for themselves . LOL Yes we have nuts and poppy that is what we sell to Pakistan and India LOL as well as minerals to Europe and USA.

Brother our country is worth nothing. If your eyes are on that 3 trillion, god brother we need big machinery which would cost us millions to make or buy for those minerals. China invested 3 billion and regret go ask them why? Their first assigned 2.5 million worth of digging for copper came under direct attack from Japan and the world because it was near an archaeological site lol as attacks from Taliban.

Ok well so be it, if you think we can survive on such 3 trillion worth of minerals when yet a country like USA has over a decillion worth of deposits and yet still invade other countries? Why not tell them to extracting all their minerals and leave Iraq, Afghanistan alone?



Brother I would rather be calling myself proud Pakistani and be proud, why belong to a country with no future beyond foreign Aid? At least my next generations does not have to go through all that hardship us and our grand fathers went trough, simply make enough to survive. I do not want to be Neighbor's economical needs and exist simply to fulfill their demands so that whenever they say "sit" we sit and when they say "Bark" we bark. NO I am sorry brother I would rather be a Pakistani than be slave of Pakistan. If you want to forget Durand Line than I would be first to forget Afghanistan and split Afghanistan cause for me it means nothing than a slave suffering agent of another south Asian power ie Pakistan. For those people like me I would rather want all from Farah to Jalalabad to be part of Pakistan. Let 60% non-Pashtu speakers of the north to join the Russians and pro communists republics, and for that 40 Pashtuns affiliates can come south and replace the 25% non-pashtun and non-Afghans races of the South.

Sure If I was in Afghan politics this is the Golden era for them cause another 7 billion more needs to be deposited in the country before 2015. So once that is done all the selfish Afghan Businessmen would run away, the smart ones will or open more station and buy lands in other countries cause we don't know what will happen. I personally do not want anyone to be fooled with this current Afghanistan thing, because we are not only hurting ourselves in the long run but also millions of poor American tax payers who are now stuck like the Russian to help us, simply to fulfill their promise, until their economy goes down. Najeed was aided with 1.8 billion yearly by the Russian until a year before his fall over 10 more billion dollars was given to Afghans. We lost everything, we had so what we have to loss?


We gain nothing fighting the Russians, and yet Pakistan in September 1981 Reagan approved 3.2 billion dollars worth of military assistance package and option to sell 40 F-16 fighter jets, and by end of six years in 1988 total Aid to Pakistan was $20 billion dollars. Today once again since 9/11 another already more than $20 billion dollars has been given to Pakistan. Why? Is Pakistan worth keeping? What in Pakistan than we don't have? LOL Please don't say they have atom bombs lol cause Americans can control anytime they want. The question is not what we have, or what Pakistan has but rather what do we mean for the Americans? We often thing America was here to liberate us, build our country. I won't go deeper for those who understand deep international politics knows exactly what I am trying to say and for those who don't get it just simply ignore me please. Thanks



Although Afghanistan is 70 or 75% Afghan Race, but Language pr tongue became an issue in the 21 century or maybe not yet as its planed to be, some say 65% of modern Afghanistan is Pashtu speaking.Whatever it maybe. However according to new data Afghanistan is 60% Pashtu speaking, so well considering that people who are Persianized Pashtuns can stay in the north and let the south be pure Pashtun and join with Pakistan. So let this worthless country of 36 million people be divided into 22 million south from west to north east and 14 million composed of 3 million Hazaras, 2 million Tajikistanis, 5.5 million mixed Farsiwans (Dari speakers mixed roots from Arab, Afghan, Gazalbash, Turk, Parsi (Ancient Persians) and mixed-everything in between) and 3.5 million Uzbeks/Turkomans/Kazak etc LOL They can call it Khorasan and be it as another Russian protected nation maybe running good and active for another 10 or 20 years lol again they will start to eat each other, and let them suffer as an isolated another landlocked nation lol of mixed Races. I am sure over time the Dari speaking of Ancient Afghan tribal roots would also in the future join this proud greater Pakistan because once Uzbeks, Turkmans, and Tajikistanis start fighting amongst each other eliminating the Shia Hazaras or forcing them poor people to join republic of Iran or just become another refugee in another country and 3 Soviet backed nations within the next 25 years will have the rest divided among themselves

Anyone against me, please be aware that I do not want this, because that means Afghans will have to loss their historical lands which has always been Afghan Land south of Oxus for 5000 years. However since coming of Islam another group added to Afghanistan aside from Persians now includes Arabs, Ghuz turks, mixed Turks=Tajikistani, mongol and mixed Turo-Persians to easy accessed lands of silk route, geography of Afghanistan has been changed, not same as it was 1100 AD. Asides from other problems millions of Pashtuns from northern will loss their land, and 3.5 million Dari speakers and also 1.3 millions of Hazaras would have to leave Ghur, Ghazni, Jalalabad and Kabul etc must leave to join the Khorasan they new Russian republic, with President Fahim, and PM Abdur Rashid Dostum.

But again its better for Afghan race join Pakistan because there are 17 million pashtuns in whole of Pakistan rather be the Pakistani slave as Karzai and his drug dealing family wants.

[unknownprince]

Pakistan Taliban claims cross-border raid

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/06/03/uk-pakistan-afghanistan-militants-idUKTRE7524D720110603

By Ali Shah
SHALTALO, Pakistan | Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:37pm BST

SHALTALO, Pakistan (Reuters) - The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility on Friday for a cross-border attack on a security checkpost that appeared to signal that the group was adopting a new strategy of carrying out large-scale attacks on government and army targets.
In the pre-dawn raid on Wednesday in the village of Shaltalo in Dir region, up to 400 militants crossed over from Afghanistan in the raid which triggered more than 24 hours of clashes, the government said.
Twenty-seven Pakistani forces were killed and 45 militants died in the clashes in the northwest, security officials said. There were contradictory accounts of casualties and how many militants fought.
"Up to 40 to 50 of our fighters took part in the operation," Ehsanullah Ashen, spokesman for the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (Taliban Movement of Pakistan), told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location. "None of our fighters were killed."
The TTP has previously brought fighters from across the porous border with Afghanistan -- where it has allies -- to attack Pakistani security forces, but none were on the same scale as the Dir operation.
Deputy TTP leader Fakir Mohammed said the group with close ties to al Qaeda had changed strategy and would now focus on large-scale attacks only on state targets like the one in Dir.
"Our new strategy of launching big attacks on military installations was aimed at causing demoralisation in the ranks of the security forces and tiring of the government," he told Pakistan's The News newspaper from what he said was a location somewhere in Afghanistan.
REVENGE FOR BIN LADEN'S DEATH
A new TTP gameplan may complicate the army's efforts to weaken the group, which has stepped up suicide bombings to avenge the killing of Osama bin Laden by U.S. special forces in a Pakistani town on May 2.
Since then, the movement has attacked paramilitary cadets, a naval base, a U.S. consulate convoy and other targets, challenging government assertions that army offensives against militants have succeeded.
After bin Laden's death, the United States reiterated its call for Pakistan to crack down harder on militants, especially those who cross over to Afghanistan to attack Western forces.
The lawless frontier is home to some of the world's most dangerous militant groups, who are intricately linked and cross back and forth across fairly easily to carry out operations.
Pakistan's army will have to contend with a new TTP strategy at a time when it is still reeling from the bin Laden fiasco.
The U.S. raid opened the agency up to international suspicion it was complicity in hiding the al Qaeda leader, and to domestic criticism for failing to detect or stop the U.S. team.
Pakistan, dependent on billions of dollars in aid from its strategic ally Washington, is under more pressure than ever to tackle militancy because of the discovery bin Laden was living close to Islamabad.
As the Dir operation showed, it won't be easy.
On Friday, helicopter gunships pounded hilltops in assaults on the militants who were still in the area. Soldiers stood near a building pockmarked with large bullet holes from the fighting. Houses and schools were burnt out.
Most Pakistanis are opposed to the Taliban's austere interpretation of Islam and its violent methods.
"We also want to limit civilian casualties. Our ultimate objective is to force the government to end its alliance with the United States," said deputy TTP leader Mohammad.
Pakistanis are also frustrated by the apparent inability of the government to improve security in the nuclear-armed South Asian country, which has failed to create economic opportunities to keep young men from flocking to militant groups.
Rahimullah Yusufzai, an expert on militants, said the fighters involved in the Dir operation had probably fled to Afghanistan to escape government offensives.
Pakistan called on Thursday for stern action against militants in Afghanistan by Afghan and U.S.-led foreign forces to prevent further cross-border operations.
Pakistani Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir conveyed Pakistan's "strong concern" to the Afghan ambassador to Pakistan.
"We are in close contact with the Afghan Taliban. Both of us want to get rid of America and its slaves. Our activities will continue," said Ehsan.
(Additional reporting by Sahibzada Bahauddin in Khar and Zeeshan Haider in Islamabad; Writing by Michael Georgy; Editing by Alex Richardson)

Like Sangar said, you really don't have a good understanding of what is going on. Either you truly want to believe something that is highly doubtful at this point if not entirely false, or you are just confused.

“The TTP is known for making phony claims to panic people,” an intelligence official told The Express Tribune.

Even Pakistani officials are saying the TTP was not behind the DIR attacks. Usually, they are so eager to blame them in order to conduct operations. Remember how they blamed them for Bhutto's death?


Their claim in this regard leaves more questions than answers. Pakistani Taliban also said that Afghan Taliban were involved in this, something that was denied.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/184495/pak-afghan-commission-upper-dir-incursion-to-figure-in-talks-with-kabul/

Afghan Taliban deny involvement in Dir attacks – PakTribune.com @ Current Affairs

I think what happened was they were so eager to claim credit for the attack, not realizing that they had nothing to do with them. This is not to say that they do not oppose Pakistan, but in this situation, all indications points toward this Khost Protection Force, funded by the US.

This inconsistency is seen with the Peshawar blast where the Pakistani Taliban denied they were behind this. However, an unknown "chapter" that no one heard about then came forward. However, as no one paid attention to this "unknown" chapter, that was the last heard of them.

The same can be said about the recent hospital blast in Afghanistan which was denied by the Afghans. Till now, no one has claimed responsibility. Blackwater was behind this. Karzai has even implicated Blackwater behind many terrorist attacks in Afghanistan.

Point is it is pretty clear who was behind this.

Too many inconsistencies point in one direction, and read Barakzai's post where he shows evidence confirming that KPF (Khost Protection Force) a group of paid individuals who serve the US are found to be staging these raids.