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  • Why did ANP support Russia during war against Soviets?

    And on the same token why have they been supporting the current and failed war in Afghanistan?

  • #2
    Lala dasey ba na wi awo ka wi nu Zma Feker dasey da chay

    hagu da Ross (russia) zka marsta kwala chay Pakistan mat shi awo

    Mung da Loy Pukhtunistan jor kru.............Khu da ka hem daro

    da Khpal Khpal maqsad wo pa da ka Afghanistan na Qesa wrana shwa chay

    Ahmed Shah Masod awo da Kafir Dr najib da lasa...............

    zka afghanistan ka Ahmed Shah masod pa wakht hem Zmung MAshar

    Ajmal Khattak Baba ta chay waly wu

    chay ta zmung MASHAR na ya

    zka haga PASILA NAZAM walklu chay

    da TA chay na ya da ZMA DA MATO BARAKAT DA .........da karkha (line )

    da khbray sra tarun khurey..
    .....


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    • #3
      Originally posted by unknownprince View Post
      And on the same token why have they been supporting the current and failed war in Afghanistan?
      Back then this party was simply promised to be key ruling leader once Afghanistan was conquered the Russians openly aimed for warm waters of indian ocean and by that means they wanted to make sure they have backers for invading pashtunistan. This question is very simple and well understood the russians used Afghan weakness of so called "unity" which is what afghans wanted but British world was too strong. So unity for russians was supported from many directions by many parties inside and outside Afghanistan. And now ANP is no longer funded by Afghan Khad or russian and its simply say bought by ISI 1996 deal its controversy amongst ANP members but you really have to go deep to find out.
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      • #4
        ANP use to blow up markets and refugee camps to terrorize Afghan refugees. They received arms and supplies from the Russians to cause havoc in the camps.

        They did so because they are for sell to any bidder.
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        • #5
          Terrorists are against all Pukhtoons whether in PPP, ANP, PML(N), etc. who are against the presence of terrorists in pukhtoonkhwa. Terrorists want to convert our pukhtoonkhwa into a terroris state.

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          • #6
            the terrorists are the na pak army and their US NATO.

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            • #7
              ANP are quite often sleazy types.
              I met some during my years over there, because there
              are so many around Peshawar area.

              Not impressive men, always whining - like this.
              [By the way when I signed there was a cameo pic of
              said Jelaluddin Haqqani on the top Right of the screen - it was Sk's.
              I took it as a sign about how ridiculous these ANP are]

              Here is an article from Dawn, Karachi newspaper.

              Take a look at the reaction in the comments, which shows how
              many are quite alert to the truth about the ANP these days:

              KARACHI: In a meeting with an American diplomat in July 2009, ANP leader Senator Afrasiab Khattak claimed that the Haqqani network, a militant group the US holds responsible for multiple attacks against coalition forces in Afghanistan, was being protected by the Pakistan military.
              The report is one of a number of American diplomatic cables obtained by Dawn that reveal a deep mistrust among the leadership of the ANP, the party responsible for governance in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, about the military’s intentions regarding various militant groups in KP and FATA.
              “Khattak described the Pakistani military as treating the Haqqanis ‘separately’ … from other militants,” reported Lynne Tracy, the Principal Officer at the US Consulate in Peshawar. “The Haqqani family, [Khattak] observed, has already moved out of North Waziristan.
              “Part of the family, he said, is living in a rented house on the Kohat Road on the southern side of Peshawar. The other half is living in a house owned by the Haqqani family in the Rawalpindi cantonment.”
              America has unsuccessfully been pressuring Pakistan to pursue the Haqqani network, which it considers one of its deadliest opponents in Afghanistan. This month the US State Department added one of Jalaluddin Haqqani’s sons to America’s list of global terrorists, on which the leader and two other sons are already listed.
              In the July 2009 meeting Mr Khattak also criticised “a purported ISI plan to release Tehrik-i-Nifaz-i-Shariat-i-Mohammadi (TNSM) leader Sufi Mohammad” as the second Swat operation was winding down.
              “Khattak told PO July 3 that ISI is intensifying pressure on NWFP Chief Minister Haider Hoti to place TNSM leader Sufi Mohammad in ‘provincial protective custody’ as part of an ISI plan to engineer the surrender of senior Tehrik-i-Taliban Swat leadership, including Mullah Fazlullah and spokesman Muslim Khan,” Ms Tracy reported.
              “ISI-proposed terms … of ‘provincial custody,’ Khattak said, envisioned allowing the TNSM leader greater freedom of movement. In return, Sufi Mohammad would declare implementation of the Nizam-i-Adl regulation in Swat acceptable.” If he did so, according to Khattak’s description of the alleged ISI plan, TTP-Swat senior leadership would surrender.
              In an indication of the civilian-military disconnect in the province, “Khattak declared flatly that the provincial government wanted nothing to do with this plan. Operations in Swat, he said, should come to a ‘logical conclusion’ – killing or capturing militant leadership.
              “ANP leader Asfandyar Wali Khan … was also suspicious, Khattak commented, because ISI Director General Pasha had said nothing during a recent meeting about taking custody of Sufi Mohammad.”
              In its comment on the meeting the Peshawar Consulate took note of the mistrust between the military and the provincial leadership and offered its own analysis about the military’s intentions: “While Khattak and other ANP leaders continue to voice respect for senior military leaders in Islamabad and Peshawar, there is tremendous suspicion of ISI and the role it is playing in the NWFP and FATA.
              “Khattak commented at one point that ‘ISI’s strategy is to save the Taliban from defeat.’ ISI’s motives and activities are more complicated than that statement suggests. However, the ISI-brokered deal now being described would likely undermine any progress the military has made in reversing the public perception that the military and local Taliban are essentially the same entity.”
              Suspicions about the military’s alliances can be seen at least as far back as cables written in 2006. In a meeting with the Peshawar Principal Officer in March that year, ANP chief and then Senator Asfandyar Wali Khan spoke about his plan for political reform in FATA.
              One item involved “controlling ISI and the Afghan desk of the Pakistan Army in the FATA. … Operatives oftentimes support long-standing relationships with Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders that undermine the policy initiatives of senior GOP leaders.”
              Later that month, Mr Khan “recommended the immediate transfer of all ISI agents from FATA that had previously worked with the Taliban and mujahideen.”
              It is once the ANP is in power in KP that the relationship appears to become more interdependent. “Khan said that Kayani had so far played a ‘positive role’ when he took over ISI,” said an April 2008 cable, “closing six militant training camps identified by his party and removing ISI officers who had remained in the FATA too long.”
              At the same time, however, Khan was extremely wary of the peace agreement with South Waziristan’s tribal elders being devised in April 2008. He “made clear that the agreement was drafted by Pakistan’s military, not its ruling political parties … going so far as to turn on a television to mask our conversation, perhaps reflecting ANP reservations over a deal that appears to have been largely brokered by the military rather than political forces.”
              Cables referenced: WikiLeaks # 215774, 55435, 57538, 150498. All cables are available on Dawn.com.





              13 Responses to " ANP leaders said military protected Haqqanis, other militants "


              1. Uzair Javaid says:
                May 25, 2011 (3 days ago) at 7:06 pm
                Though more mature, yet traitors to the Pakistani national integrity and interests. Even for sake of an argument I accept that the military has Haqqanis as proxies, is it that US doesnt has its proxies?indians dont have their’s??Iranians dont have their proxies?? why in the world would he openly reveal to the US diplomat that military harbours them. Asfand wali as always found sitting in Washington gives me more clearer an idea who himself and his party works for. Clearly its not Pakistani interests they are protecting nor would they want national security as prime focus. I know well for sure that they receive money for all this and a biscuit as a reward which is mere political career for 5years term (if completed)
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              2. Faiz Khalil says:
                May 24, 2011 (4 days ago) at 2:54 am
                Couple of years back on the occasion of Eid, A suicide bomber blew himself up in front of Asfandiyar Wali Khan in his hujra in Charsadda.This was an unfortunate happening for Pakhtuns. it was sad that the only leader of the pakhtuns was targeted by terrorists. But it was more sad that since that attack, Asfandiyar Khan has been held hosage to The politics of Zardari and the drawingrooms of the elites.While the pakhtuns certainly support him in the fight against terrorists But the pakhtuns also demands him to raise his voice for the plight of the innocent being killed in the Drones attacks. He needed to raise this issue with everyone, Americans, Isi, Kiyani,Zardari and the Tribal people. He doing a lip service on this issue and the pakhtuns are watching his politics of his personal concern but having no concern for innocent pakhtuns being killed in drones attacks.
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              3. Ali Wazir says:
                May 24, 2011 (4 days ago) at 2:49 am
                So the ANP is regularly debriefed at the Peshawar Consulate. Basically CIA informants..Wow this gets better and better…

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              • #8
                ANP may be bad but they are far better than terrorists al-queda and taleban. these people want to ruin our land. they have destroyed our schools and mosques.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sania View Post
                  Terrorists are against all Pukhtoons whether in PPP, ANP, PML(N), etc. who are against the presence of terrorists in pukhtoonkhwa. Terrorists want to convert our pukhtoonkhwa into a terroris state.
                  i thought you were a journalist?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by unknownprince View Post
                    the terrorists are the na pak army and their US NATO.
                    Lala ta IRAN walay hara wa ?. ta sta hem Iranyanay ?...mkwa kna

                    bainsafi
                    .....


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Catya Sher View Post
                      ANP are quite often sleazy types.
                      I met some during my years over there, because there
                      are so many around Peshawar area.

                      Not impressive men, always whining - like this.
                      [By the way when I signed there was a cameo pic of
                      said Jelaluddin Haqqani on the top Right of the screen - it was Sk's.
                      I took it as a sign about how ridiculous these ANP are]

                      Here is an article from Dawn, Karachi newspaper.

                      Take a look at the reaction in the comments, which shows how
                      many are quite alert to the truth about the ANP these days:
                      get yourself a psychologist you psychopath. find yourself another toilet for releasing your mental diarrhoea. why are you talking about these things. and you don't know about them much.

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                      • #12
                        Anp is serving ISI and army for the last 3 years. They are not doing any good for Pukhtuns.
                        They have taken vote in the name of Pukhtuns but have done nothing for them yet.

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                        • #13
                          Emkhan Nawaz Sharif da khwakh wo ?..

                          awo ka

                          Banazira ?..........chay ba darla da Pukhtunkhwa num darkwalo ?

                          Yu shay chay Kha wi haga ta ba kha waye

                          deu GUNNAH hem dara da khu sta pa ba khbra agree na yam zka ma darta olekala..
                          .....


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by شمله ور خراساني View Post
                            ANP use to blow up markets and refugee camps to terrorize Afghan refugees. They received arms and supplies from the Russians to cause havoc in the camps.

                            They did so because they are for sell to any bidder.
                            The ANP people are idiots, because of them the Pashtuns are in this mess.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Nokia_Apridy View Post
                              Emkhan Nawaz Sharif da khwakh wo ?..

                              awo ka

                              Banazira ?..........chay ba darla da Pukhtunkhwa num darkwalo ?

                              Yu shay chay Kha wi haga ta ba kha waye

                              deu GUNNAH hem dara da khu sta pa ba khbra agree na yam zka ma darta olekala..
                              Giving name is ok and i personally have had long debates with punjabis. But only sticking to this one thing will not make them good. They should stop killing the innocent Pukhtuns. They should bring the real culprits to justice.
                              They should leave the corrupt govt. The should give up working under army and ISI.

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